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brittershaus
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Faces are washed or shaded on large screen

Post by brittershaus »

Little history and description of my project:

I am attempting to take a few years of family videos shot on a Panasonic DV camera and store them on a NAS so family members can access for many generations.

The video (metadata of this .vob file at the bottom, below activity log) I am working from now is a DVD I burned from a DV Tape 10 years ago.
The log below shows where I currently am in balancing the three legged conversion stool; in order of priority for me - image quality, size of file and time to burn. The video to me seems excellent on an ipad and PC monitor. The problem begins when the video is displayed through Plex on a large OLED TV. All looks great except for faces. Faces are really one of the main reasons for doing this; to let future generations see and hear their ancestors. Someone on this forum described this problem best as looking like an Andy Warhol painting ( https://i.etsystatic.com/14842666/r/il/ ... 9_eid6.jpg ) of a face. It displays as two or three shades only with no realistic gradient of skin tone or detail.

Three full days have been spent trying to get the magic combination of Handbrake settings to solve this issue, so now I am hoping someone here can help. I feel like I am close, but need a little assist.

This project will be followed by 30+ DVtapes (I'll use WinDV to convert to .avi and Handbrake to convert to .mp4), then on to 40+ 8mm cassette films and finally to reel tapes. Needless to say, I'll have to get this right first.

Side question: I sent out the DVD to a professional conversion place to compare what the "pros" can do and their Metadata showed "isom" as a compatible brand. They used Handbrake 1.0.7 for the conversion. Is isom an old format? I could not find a setting to obtain isom as a compatible brand. More curious than anything.


Thank you in advance and thank you all for what you do.

-Brian

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HandBrake 1.5.0 (2022010900)
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19043.0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3220 @ 3.00GHz
Ram: 3913 MB, 
GPU Information:
  Intel(R) HD Graphics - 20.19.15.4963
Screen: 1440x900
Temp Dir: C:\Users\I LOVE my family\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\HandBrake\
Data Dir: C:\Users\I LOVE my family\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake

-------------------------------------------

 # Starting Encode ...

[11:42:09] base preset: "Best Handbrake Settings For Plex In 2020"
[11:42:09] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[11:42:09] Starting work at: Wed Jan 26 11:42:09 2022
[11:42:09] 1 job(s) to process
[11:42:09] json job:
{
  "Audio": {
    "AudioList": [
      {
        "Bitrate": 160,
        "DRC": 0,
        "Encoder": "av_aac",
        "Gain": 0,
        "Mixdown": 4,
        "NormalizeMixLevel": false,
        "Samplerate": 0,
        "Track": 0,
        "DitherMethod": 0
      }
    ],
    "CopyMask": [
      "copy:aac",
      "copy:ac3",
      "copy:dtshd",
      "copy:dts",
      "copy:eac3",
      "copy:flac",
      "copy:mp3",
      "copy:truehd",
      "copy:mp2"
    ],
    "FallbackEncoder": "ac3"
  },
  "Destination": {
    "ChapterList": [
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 1"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 2"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 3"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 4"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 5"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 6"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 7"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 8"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 9"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 10"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 11"
      }
    ],
    "ChapterMarkers": true,
    "AlignAVStart": true,
    "File": "V:\\Shared Videos\\TEST FOLDER\\Best handbrake setting for Plex in 2020.mp4",
    "Mp4Options": {
      "IpodAtom": false,
      "Mp4Optimize": true
    },
    "Mux": "av_mp4"
  },
  "Filters": {
    "FilterList": [
      {
        "ID": 4,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "7"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 3,
        "Settings": {
          "block-height": "16",
          "block-thresh": "40",
          "block-width": "16",
          "filter-mode": "2",
          "mode": "3",
          "motion-thresh": "1",
          "spatial-metric": "2",
          "spatial-thresh": "1"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 13,
        "Settings": {
          "crop-bottom": "0",
          "crop-left": "0",
          "crop-right": "0",
          "crop-top": "0",
          "height": "480",
          "width": "720"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 6,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "2",
          "rate": "27000000/900000"
        }
      }
    ]
  },
  "PAR": {
    "Num": 8,
    "Den": 9
  },
  "Metadata": {},
  "SequenceID": 0,
  "Source": {
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    "Range": {
      "Type": "time",
      "Start": 281700000,
      "End": 286650000
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    "Title": 1,
    "Path": "D:\\VIDEO_TS"
  },
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      "Default": false,
      "Enable": false,
      "Forced": false
    },
    "SubtitleList": []
  },
  "Video": {
    "Encoder": "x264",
    "Level": "4.1",
    "TwoPass": false,
    "Turbo": false,
    "ColorMatrixCode": 0,
    "Options": "",
    "Preset": "slower",
    "Profile": "high",
    "Quality": 18,
    "Tune": "film",
    "QSV": {
      "Decode": false
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  }
}
[11:42:09] CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3220 @ 3.00GHz
[11:42:09]  - Intel microarchitecture Haswell
[11:42:09]  - logical processor count: 2
[11:42:09] Intel Quick Sync Video support: yes, gpu list: 0
[11:42:09] Intel Quick Sync Video integrated adapter with index 0
[11:42:09]  - Intel Media SDK hardware: API 1.20 (minimum: 1.3)
[11:42:09]  - Decode support:  h264
[11:42:09]  - H.264 encoder: yes
[11:42:09]     - preferred implementation: hardware (1) via D3D11
[11:42:09]     - capabilities (hardware):  breftype icq+la+i+downs vsinfo opt1 opt2+mbbrc+extbrc+trellis+ib_adapt+nmpslice
[11:42:09]  - H.265 encoder: no
[11:42:09] hb_scan: path=D:\VIDEO_TS, title_index=1
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:437: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:437: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/bluray.c:2646: nav_get_title_list(D:\VIDEO_TS\) failed
[11:42:09] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdread: Could not open input:
libdvdread: Can't open D:\VIDEO_TS for reading
libdvdread: Device D:\VIDEO_TS inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
libdvdread: Zero check failed in src/ifo_read.c:567 for vmgi_mat->zero_3 : 0x00000000010000000000000000000000000000
libdvdnav: Unable to open device file D:\VIDEO_TS.
libdvdread: Could not open input:
libdvdread: Can't open D:\VIDEO_TS for reading
libdvdread: Device D:\VIDEO_TS inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
libdvdread: Zero check failed in src/ifo_read.c:567 for vmgi_mat->zero_3 : 0x00000000010000000000000000000000000000
[11:42:09] scan: DVD has 2 title(s)
[11:42:09] scan: scanning title 1
[11:42:09] scan: duration is 00:56:50 (3410000 ms)
[11:42:09] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 0000024b8bef4c00
[11:42:09] scan: checking audio 1
[11:42:09] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=Unknown (AC3), 3cc=und ext=0
[11:42:09] scan: title 1 has 11 chapters
[11:42:09] scan: chap 1, 349000 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 2, 360000 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 3, 357500 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 4, 355000 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 5, 330000 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 6, 318000 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 7, 319000 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 8, 320500 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 9, 321000 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 10, 321500 ms
[11:42:09] scan: chap 11, 58500 ms
[11:42:09] scan: aspect = 4:3
[11:42:09] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[11:42:09] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:42:09] scan: audio 0x80bd: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=256000 Unknown (AC3) (2.0 ch) (256 kbps)
[11:42:12] WARNING: Video PAR 32:27 != container PAR 8:9
[11:42:12] scan: content PAR gives wrong aspect 16:9; using container aspect 4:3
[11:42:12] scan: 10 previews, 720x480, 29.970 fps, autocrop = 0/0/0/0, aspect 4:3, PAR 8:9, color profile: 6-1-6, chroma location: left
[11:42:12] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[11:42:13] Starting Task: Encoding Pass
[11:42:13] Skipping crop/scale filter
[11:42:13] work: track 1, dithering not supported by codec
[11:42:13] job configuration:
[11:42:13]  * source
[11:42:13]    + D:\VIDEO_TS
[11:42:13]    + title 1, start 00:52:10.00 stop 00:53:5.00
[11:42:13]  * destination
[11:42:13]    + V:\Shared Videos\TEST FOLDER\Best handbrake setting for Plex in 2020.mp4
[11:42:13]    + container: MPEG-4 (libavformat)
[11:42:13]      + optimized for HTTP streaming (fast start)
[11:42:13]      + align initial A/V stream timestamps
[11:42:13]      + chapter markers
[11:42:13]  * video track
[11:42:13]    + decoder: mpeg2video 8-bit (yuv420p)
[11:42:13]      + bitrate 200 kbps
[11:42:13]    + filters
[11:42:13]      + Comb Detect (mode=3:spatial-metric=2:motion-thresh=1:spatial-thresh=1:filter-mode=2:block-thresh=40:block-width=16:block-height=16)
[11:42:13]      + Decomb (mode=39)
[11:42:13]      + Framerate Shaper (mode=2:rate=27000000/900000)
[11:42:13]        + frame rate: 29.970 fps -> peak rate limited to 30.000 fps
[11:42:13]    + Output geometry
[11:42:13]      + storage dimensions: 720 x 480
[11:42:13]      + pixel aspect ratio: 8 : 9
[11:42:13]      + display dimensions: 640 x 480
[11:42:13]    + encoder: H.264 (libx264)
[11:42:13]      + preset:  slower
[11:42:13]      + tune:    film
[11:42:13]      + profile: high
[11:42:13]      + level:   4.1
[11:42:13]      + quality: 18.00 (RF)
[11:42:13]      + color profile: 6-1-6
[11:42:13]      + chroma location: left
[11:42:13]  * audio track 1
[11:42:13]    + decoder: Unknown (AC3) (2.0 ch) (256 kbps) (track 1, id 0x80bd)
[11:42:13]      + bitrate: 256 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[11:42:13]    + mixdown: Stereo
[11:42:13]    + encoder: AAC (libavcodec)
[11:42:13]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
libdvdread: Could not open input:
libdvdread: Can't open D:\VIDEO_TS for reading
libdvdread: Device D:\VIDEO_TS inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
libdvdread: Zero check failed in src/ifo_read.c:567 for vmgi_mat->zero_3 : 0x00000000010000000000000000000000000000
libdvdnav: Unable to open device file D:\VIDEO_TS.
libdvdread: Could not open input:
libdvdread: Can't open D:\VIDEO_TS for reading
libdvdread: Device D:\VIDEO_TS inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
libdvdread: Zero check failed in src/ifo_read.c:567 for vmgi_mat->zero_3 : 0x00000000010000000000000000000000000000
[11:42:13] sync: expecting 1678 video frames
[11:42:13] encx264: min-keyint: 30, keyint: 300
[11:42:13] encx264: encoding at constant RF 18.000000
[11:42:13] encx264: unparsed options: level=4.1:ref=8:b-adapt=2:direct=auto:deblock=-1,-1:analyse=all:me=umh:subme=9:trellis=2:psy-rd=1,0.15:vbv-bufsize=78125:vbv-maxrate=62500:rc-lookahead=60
x264 [info]: using SAR=8/9
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast LZCNT SSSE3 SSE4.2
x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.1, 4:2:0, 8-bit
[11:42:23] decomb: deinterlaced 1 | blended 0 | unfiltered 0 | total 1
[11:44:55] sync: first pts audio 0x80bd is 0
[11:44:55] sync: first pts video is 0
[11:47:19] sync: reached audio 0x80bd pts 4950720, exiting early
[11:47:20] sync: reached video pts 4951947, exiting early
[11:47:31] work: average encoding speed for job is 11.378562 fps
[11:47:31] comb detect: heavy 1592 | light 42 | uncombed 15 | total 1649
[11:47:31] decomb: deinterlaced 1592 | blended 42 | unfiltered 15 | total 1649
[11:47:31] vfr: 1649 frames output, 0 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
[11:47:31] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[11:47:31] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[11:47:31] ac3-decoder done: 102634 frames, 0 decoder errors
[11:47:31] mpeg2video-decoder done: 98441 frames, 0 decoder errors
[11:47:31] sync: got 1649 frames, 1678 expected
[11:47:31] sync: framerate min 29.970 fps, max 29.970 fps, avg 29.970 fps
[aac @ 0000024b80c380c0] Ignoring attempt to flush encoder that doesn't support it
[aac @ 0000024b80c380c0] Qavg: 187.103
x264 [info]: frame I:6     Avg QP:17.92  size: 83674
x264 [info]: frame P:492   Avg QP:19.90  size: 39587
x264 [info]: frame B:1151  Avg QP:25.09  size:  9883
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames:  0.7%  2.8% 48.0% 48.5%
x264 [info]: mb I  I16..4:  0.7% 63.1% 36.2%
x264 [info]: mb P  I16..4:  0.3%  5.6%  1.6%  P16..4: 35.2% 30.8% 22.6%  2.4%  0.7%    skip: 0.9%
x264 [info]: mb B  I16..4:  0.0%  0.2%  0.0%  B16..8: 48.7% 13.2%  3.4%  direct:14.5%  skip:19.9%  L0:34.3% L1:32.2% BI:33.5%
x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:73.1% inter:53.8%
x264 [info]: direct mvs  spatial:99.8% temporal:0.2%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 93.5% 91.1% 66.1% inter: 49.5% 39.3% 8.9%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 17% 14% 18% 50%
x264 [info]: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 16% 14% 14%  6%  9%  9% 12%  9% 11%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 16%  9%  5%  7% 13% 12% 15% 11% 12%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 41% 22% 22% 15%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:7.3% UV:2.6%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 41.3% 14.6% 23.9%  5.4%  6.3%  2.7%  3.9%  1.8%  0.1%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 76.1% 16.3%  3.8%  1.9%  1.0%  0.6%  0.3%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 97.3%  2.7%
x264 [info]: kb/s:4558.83
[mp4 @ 0000024b8c54a5c0] Starting second pass: moving the moov atom to the beginning of the file
[11:47:45] mux: track 0, 1649 frames, 31354024 bytes, 4556.03 kbps, fifo 1024
[11:47:45] mux: track 1, 2579 frames, 1104036 bytes, 160.43 kbps, fifo 2048
[11:47:45] Finished work at: Wed Jan 26 11:47:45 2022
[11:47:45] libhb: work result = 0

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mduell
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Re: Faces are washed or shaded on large screen

Post by mduell »

DVDs are small enough, esp compared to DV, that I'd just keep the DVD rips from MakeMKV and not compress them further.
brittershaus
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Re: Faces are washed or shaded on large screen

Post by brittershaus »

Thank you, mduell. I’ve made an mkv from the dvd and it looks great and can be streamed with Plex.
I made the mistake years ago of burning DVD’s from DV Tapes - at the time I didn’t realize I was downgrading quality. For the remaining DV tapes I have I will convert to .avi’s and then to mkv’s.

Brian
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Re: Faces are washed or shaded on large screen

Post by mduell »

For the DV tapes, I'd convert to MP4 as was your original plan, I think support for MP4 will be longer/broader than MKV.
brittershaus
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Re: Faces are washed or shaded on large screen

Post by brittershaus »

Will I not have the same problem with faces being blotchy?
Won’t I be back to square one looking for better handbrake settings to eliminate the Andy Warhol look?
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Re: Faces are washed or shaded on large screen

Post by Silent_Strider »

mp4 and mkv are both just containers. When the same H.264 video stream is inside, it should be displayed the very same.
brittershaus
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Re: Faces are washed or shaded on large screen

Post by brittershaus »

Should be my last inquiry. Thank you both for your support.

Do I have to go from DV Tape to AVI (using WinDV) to MP4 (using Handbrake) or is there a way to go from DV Tape straight to MP4 (which software?)?
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