4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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mjasinski3
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4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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Hello. I am converting hi8 tapes from a "Sony ccd-trv81 ntsc" that were recorded using the "16:9wide" mode in the camera in 2004. When converted to the computer it shows up as 4:3 (720x480) (very tall people). How do I convert the files so it doesn't loose any data but show in 16:9.

I understand I can:
1. turn anamorphic off
2. uncheck "keep aspect ratio"
3. change "display size to 640x360" but that deletes data.

Pic for reference: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zq8psctdokoo0 ... 2.jpg?dl=0

Thanks in advance! Mike.
(sorry if this has been discussed but it wouldn't let me search for 4:3)

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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That sounds like it may be an early "fake widescreen" shooting format, of which there were a few. Upload an original sample to Drive or Dropbox and ill play with it.

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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Thank you. I sent a DM with a link to 2 small files. Please let me know if it was received ok. Thanks again!

It is a button, and the video was always distorted in camera... it had to be "fixed" on the tv using a zoom mode. Here are the instructions from the manual on that mode. Specs didn't list anything about resolution (not really a thing then). It does has a s-video output so atlas that signal is cleaner.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/66sumu3a3t8iq ... l.zip?dl=0

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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Yep, I had one a lot like that.
Back at you in a couple of days.

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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Thank you.

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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Do custom anamorphic, set the aspect ratio to keep the height and be 16/9 wide.

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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I'm unable to change the ratio if I do keep and custom.https://www.dropbox.com/s/gj298c3221dnb ... 0.jpg?dl=0

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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If you're trying to change the aspect ratio, then the "keep aspect ratio" checkbox is NOT for you ;)

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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It is fake 16:9 from an early camcorder, similar to the one I had.
Optimum de-anamorphic is like this:
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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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Thank you!

i cant get it to set the storage width to 720, it auto reverts to 712.
When i put in 854, it sets the PAR to 854x712.
I also have a display size height, but that stays 480.

In the end the output looks to be exactly 16x9.

I'm using the latest HB version and starting with the preset/general/fast480p30.

I wish i could figure out how to embed images here...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1e94auf0h12o ... 5.png?dl=0 maybe it works here in firefox instead of safari.

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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My screen capture is from the current 1.31.
What version of Handbrake is that?

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Maybe some slight version differences, but it sounds like you've got the idea.

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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You can't set the storage to 720, because you are cropping 4 pixels left and 4 pixels right.

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Re: 4:3 to 16:9 conversion help

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what's weird about the auto cropping, sometimes its cropping out 4 each side, sometimes not... the one posted yesterday at 10.16p did not. using the same video file. just an error I guess.

thanks so much for everyones help.

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