Optimal Encode Settings Blu Ray -> Plex

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robertbroussard
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Optimal Encode Settings Blu Ray -> Plex

Post by robertbroussard »

Although I’m a purest and normally go for the highest quality media storage possible (storing about 300 movies via MakeMKV without any re-encoding or recompression). I’m consuming disk space at an alarming rate. I have nearly 1000 movies stored on my 4 Disk QX2 (RAID-5). On some movies that are less critical I’m interested in running them through Handbrake. However, the number of HB settings are staggering and I feel like I’m painting myself into a corner. That is a bad HB setting will be baked in and will affect the media for life. It’s a lot of work to RIP these movies and capture all of the extras so I don’t ever want to too this again. Can you recommend HB settings for Blu Ray and DVD sources that does not require a NASA scientist?

Currently, Im experimenting with the following settings:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/76bnqq2hsvbpo ... 8.png?dl=0

I recently made the following changes:
-All filters set to Off for Bu Ray
-Constant Quality changed from RF 20 to RF 22
-Frame Rate changed to constant
-Encoder Tune set to “Film” (not sure what this does)
-Level changed from 4.0 to 4.1 (not sure what this does) and then back to 4.0 since one fo the test encodes was larger than expected.

The original settings seem to work pretty well but my Subtitle track was not in there since I deselected the default checkbox. How to add ST track without setting it to default? I'm still struggling with the Preset Rules for Audio and Subtitles.

Also, I’m thinking use passthrough audio (DTS HD or DTS or AC3 whatever has the highest quality) and not make a Stereo mix since my iPhone seems to play DTS HD or perhaps the Plex app is translating this on the fly. Do I need to worry about DTS HD audio not being playable?

I will have to experiment with h.265 encodes. I’m currently serving this on a 2014 Mac mini so power is limited. Later I can see a more powerful computer processing media over the LAN.

Other encoding thoughts? I would love to have a Blu Ray Custom settings that apply to most all BDs and perhaps a different one for DVDs and possibly a third for old DVDs that need to be deinterlaced.... One of the reasons I've been storing the MakeMKV output without encoding is that I'm preserving all of my options. Please help me understand HB better.

Thanks,

Rob

OliverS
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Re: Optimal Encode Settings Blu Ray -> Plex

Post by OliverS »

robertbroussard wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:04 pm
Although I’m a purest and normally go for the highest quality media storage possible (storing about 300 movies via MakeMKV without any re-encoding or recompression). I’m consuming disk space at an alarming rate. I have nearly 1000 movies stored on my 4 Disk QX2 (RAID-5). On some movies that are less critical I’m interested in running them through Handbrake. However, the number of HB settings are staggering and I feel like I’m painting myself into a corner. That is a bad HB setting will be baked in and will affect the media for life. It’s a lot of work to RIP these movies and capture all of the extras so I don’t ever want to too this again. Can you recommend HB settings for Blu Ray and DVD sources that does not require a NASA scientist?

Currently, Im experimenting with the following settings:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/76bnqq2hsvbpo ... 8.png?dl=0

I recently made the following changes:
-All filters set to Off for Bu Ray
-Constant Quality changed from RF 20 to RF 22
-Frame Rate changed to constant
-Encoder Tune set to “Film” (not sure what this does)
-Level changed from 4.0 to 4.1 (not sure what this does) and then back to 4.0 since one fo the test encodes was larger than expected.

The original settings seem to work pretty well but my Subtitle track was not in there since I deselected the default checkbox. How to add ST track without setting it to default? I'm still struggling with the Preset Rules for Audio and Subtitles.

Also, I’m thinking use passthrough audio (DTS HD or DTS or AC3 whatever has the highest quality) and not make a Stereo mix since my iPhone seems to play DTS HD or perhaps the Plex app is translating this on the fly. Do I need to worry about DTS HD audio not being playable?

I will have to experiment with h.265 encodes. I’m currently serving this on a 2014 Mac mini so power is limited. Later I can see a more powerful computer processing media over the LAN.

Other encoding thoughts? I would love to have a Blu Ray Custom settings that apply to most all BDs and perhaps a different one for DVDs and possibly a third for old DVDs that need to be deinterlaced.... One of the reasons I've been storing the MakeMKV output without encoding is that I'm preserving all of my options. Please help me understand HB better.

Thanks,

Rob
Need help with the same. Some help is appreciated

Thanks in advance'
Regards,
Oliver

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Rodeo
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Re: Optimal Encode Settings Blu Ray -> Plex

Post by Rodeo »

With the same re: settings for Plex, or specifically about subtitles?

basementjack
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Re: Optimal Encode Settings Blu Ray -> Plex

Post by basementjack »

Same here! (I don't use plex, and I understand subtitles, but the encoder options are overwhelming)

I''m still experimenting - what I can say so far is that using h265 nvenc on CQ6, I still see banding, so that's still not good enough

I'm doing some more sample encodes tonight, and trying the software encoder to see if /anything/ can get rid of banding.

mduell
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Re: Optimal Encode Settings Blu Ray -> Plex

Post by mduell »

Do you "see" the banding in the source?

majstrzvasi
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Re: Optimal Encode Settings Blu Ray -> Plex

Post by majstrzvasi »

All this talk about plex so i tried it today. I load my movie colection into plex it made some nice trumbnails. The pc version in browser always converts the video even at maximum settings there is banding present picture quality is ok nothing special and the HDR video colors are shown incorect washed out. Now the app on the tv that impressed me.
On my home network my tv app played the original video no conversion it played the 4k HDR content properly no problem subtitles worked great with sound dts, aac, ac3 mkv files x265, x264 it played all perfectly no banding great picture like the original. So thumbs up i was realy impresed how great the h265 10bit codec is played. Plex also supports chapters so it was realy easy to navigate trough the movie even with normal remote.

So my recomendation go with the h265 and h265 10bit for HDR. Try to do some 1 minute rips so you can figure out what settings give you best quality and size. Or try some h264 vs h265 tests.

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