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kata40
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H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:25 pm

1. I have an i9 7900x processor and when I convert it comes to x264 intel quick sync video, although the processors on socket 2066 do not have integrated graphics.
Can anyone explain why that setting appears there?
2. version 1.2.2
3. log files
HandBrake 1.2.2 (2019022300)
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.18999.0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7900X CPU @ 3.30GHz
Ram: 32459 MB,
GPU Information:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 26.21.14.3648
Screen: 3840x2160
Temp Dir: C:\Users\Cata\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\HandBrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\Cata\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake

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# Starting Encode ...

[22:11:52] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[22:11:52] 1 job(s) to process
[22:11:52] json job:
{
"Audio": {
"AudioList": [
{
"Bitrate": 160,
"DRC": 0.0,
"Encoder": "ac3",
"Gain": 0.0,
"Mixdown": 4,
"NormalizeMixLevel": false,
"Samplerate": 0,
"Track": 2,
"DitherMethod": 0
}
],
"CopyMask": [
"copy:aac",
"copy:ac3",
"copy:dtshd",
"copy:dts",
"copy:eac3",
"copy:flac",
"copy:mp3",
"copy:truehd"
],
"FallbackEncoder": "ac3"
},
"Destination": {
"ChapterList": [
{
"Name": "Chapter 1"
}
],
"ChapterMarkers": true,
"AlignAVStart": false,
"File": "E:\\3Sat Hd Berliner Philharmoniker - Waldbuhne 2016-1.mkv",
"Mp4Options": {
"IpodAtom": false,
"Mp4Optimize": false
},
"Mux": "mkv"
},
"Filters": {
"FilterList": [
{
"ID": 11,
"Settings": {
"crop-bottom": "0",
"crop-left": "0",
"crop-right": "0",
"crop-top": "0",
"height": "720",
"width": "1280"
}
},
{
"ID": 6,
"Settings": {
"mode": "2",
"rate": "27000000/1080000"
}
}
]
},
"PAR": {
"Num": 1,
"Den": 1
},
"Metadata": {},
"SequenceID": 0,
"Source": {
"Angle": 1,
"Range": {
"Type": "chapter",
"Start": 1,
"End": 1
},
"Title": 1,
"Path": "D:\\Download\\Terminate\\3sat HD_Berliner Philharmoniker - Waldbuhne 2016.ts"
},
"Subtitle": {
"Search": {
"Burn": false,
"Default": false,
"Enable": false,
"Forced": false
},
"SubtitleList": []
},
"Video": {
"Encoder": "qsv_h264",
"Level": "3.1",
"Bitrate": 2700,
"TwoPass": false,
"Turbo": false,
"ColorMatrixCode": 0,
"Options": "",
"Preset": "balanced",
"Profile": "main",
"QSV": {
"Decode": false,
"AsyncDepth": 0
}
}
}
[22:11:52] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7900X CPU @ 3.30GHz
[22:11:52] - logical processor count: 20
[22:11:52] Intel Quick Sync Video support: yes
[22:11:52] - Intel Media SDK software: API 1.19 (minimum: 1.3)
[22:11:52] - H.264 encoder: yes
[22:11:52] - preferred implementation: software (null)
[22:11:52] - capabilities (software): bpyramid vsinfo opt1 opt2
[22:11:52] - H.265 encoder: no
[22:11:52] hb_scan: path=D:\Download\Terminate\3sat HD_Berliner Philharmoniker - Waldbuhne 2016.ts, title_index=1
udfread ERROR: ECMA 167 Volume Recognition failed
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:323: failed opening UDF image D:\Download\Terminate\3sat HD_Berliner Philharmoniker - Waldbuhne 2016.ts
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
[22:11:52] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 6.0.0
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[22:11:52] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
[22:11:52] file is MPEG Transport Stream with 188 byte packets offset 0 bytes
[22:11:52] Found the following PIDS
[22:11:52] Video PIDS :
[22:11:52] 0x196e type H.264 (0x1b) (PCR)
[22:11:52] Audio PIDS :
[22:11:52] 0x1978 type MPEG1 (0x3)
[22:11:52] 0x1979 type MPEG1 (0x3)
[22:11:52] 0x197a type AC3 (0x81)
[22:11:52] 0x197b type MPEG1 (0x3)
[22:11:52] Subtitle PIDS :
[22:11:52] Other PIDS :
[22:11:52] stream id 0x1978 (type 0x3 substream 0x0) audio 0x1978
[22:11:52] stream id 0x1979 (type 0x3 substream 0x0) audio 0x1979
[22:11:52] stream id 0x197a (type 0x81 substream 0x0) audio 0x197a
[22:11:52] stream id 0x197b (type 0x3 substream 0x0) audio 0x197b
[22:11:52] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[22:11:52] file is MPEG Transport Stream with 188 byte packets offset 0 bytes
[22:11:52] scan: audio 0x1979: mp2, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=128000 Unknown (MPEG) (2.0 ch)
[22:11:52] scan: audio 0x1978: mp2, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=128000 Deutsch (MPEG) (2.0 ch)
[22:11:52] scan: audio 0x197a: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 Deutsch (AC3) (2.0 ch)
[22:11:52] scan: audio 0x197b: mp2, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=128000 Unknown (MPEG) (2.0 ch)
[22:11:52] stream: 20 good frames, 0 errors (0%)
[22:11:52] scan: 10 previews, 1280x720, 50.000 fps, autocrop = 0/0/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[22:11:52] scan: supported video decoders: avcodec qsv
[22:11:52] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[22:11:52] starting job
[22:11:52] work: only 1 chapter, disabling chapter markers
[22:11:52] job configuration:
[22:11:52] * source
[22:11:52] + D:\Download\Terminate\3sat HD_Berliner Philharmoniker - Waldbuhne 2016.ts
[22:11:52] + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 1
[22:11:52] * destination
[22:11:52] + E:\3Sat Hd Berliner Philharmoniker - Waldbuhne 2016-1.mkv
[22:11:52] + container: Matroska (libavformat)
[22:11:52] * video track
[22:11:52] + decoder: h264
[22:11:52] + bitrate 200 kbps
[22:11:52] + filters
[22:11:52] + Framerate Shaper (mode=2:rate=27000000/1080000)
[22:11:52] + frame rate: 50.000 fps -> peak rate limited to 25.000 fps
[22:11:52] + Crop and Scale (width=1280:height=720:crop-top=0:crop-bottom=0:crop-left=0:crop-right=0)
[22:11:52] + source: 1280 * 720, crop (0/0/0/0): 1280 * 720, scale: 1280 * 720
[22:11:52] + Output geometry
[22:11:52] + storage dimensions: 1280 x 720
[22:11:52] + pixel aspect ratio: 1 : 1
[22:11:52] + display dimensions: 1280 x 720
[22:11:52] + encoder: H.264 (Intel Media SDK)
[22:11:52] + preset: balanced
[22:11:52] + profile: main
[22:11:52] + level: 3.1
[22:11:52] + bitrate: 2700 kbps, pass: 0
[22:11:52] + color profile: 1-1-1
[22:11:52] * audio track 1
[22:11:52] + decoder: Deutsch (AC3) (2.0 ch) (track 3, id 0x197a)
[22:11:52] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:11:52] + mixdown: Stereo
[22:11:52] + dither: none
[22:11:52] + encoder: AC3 (libavcodec)
[22:11:52] + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:11:52] file is MPEG Transport Stream with 188 byte packets offset 0 bytes
[22:11:52] sync: expecting 414709 video frames
[22:11:52] encqsvInit: using encode-only path
[22:11:52] encqsvInit: H.264/AVC Main profile @ level 3.1
[22:11:52] encqsvInit: TargetUsage 4 AsyncDepth 0
[22:11:52] encqsvInit: GopRefDist 3 GopPicSize 25 NumRefFrame 2
[22:11:52] encqsvInit: BFramesMax 2 BRefType off
[22:11:52] encqsvInit: RateControlMethod VBR TargetKbps 2700 MaxKbps 16800 BufferSizeInKB 2100 InitialDelayInKB 2100
[22:11:52] sync: first pts video is 40829
[22:11:52] sync: first pts audio 0x197a is 0
[22:11:53] qsv_enc_init: using 'software (null)' implementation, API: 1.19

# Encode Stopped

[22:24:51] work: average encoding speed for job is 268.037109 fps
[22:24:51] vfr: 104347 frames output, 104346 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
[22:24:51] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[22:24:51] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[22:24:51] stream: 208802 good frames, 0 errors (0%)
[22:24:51] ac3-decoder done: 130479 frames, 0 decoder errors
[22:24:51] h264-decoder done: 208767 frames, 0 decoder errors
[22:24:51] sync: got 208710 frames, 414709 expected
[22:24:51] sync: framerate min 25.000 fps, max 50.000 fps, avg 50.000 fps
[22:24:51] mux: track 0, 104333 frames, 1408603111 bytes, 2699.51 kbps, fifo 1024
[22:24:51] mux: track 1, 130449 frames, 83487360 bytes, 160.00 kbps, fifo 2048
[22:24:51] libhb: work result = 1

# Encode Completed ...

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by s55 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:32 pm

[22:11:53] qsv_enc_init: using 'software (null)' implementation, API: 1.19

Intel has a software implementation of their encoder. You must have the Media Software Development Kit installed which includes it, or another software package has done.

You can disable QuickSync Encoder in preferences to stop it appearing.

The Software encoder is not usable for anything other than development testing purposes.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:04 pm

That's just what I say, without that kit, it opens up to me that I can use it. strange though, that my processor does not have integrated graphics
this is the first time such a thing has occurred
I must mention that I use windows 10 20H1 18999, last

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by s55 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:20 pm

Nope.

It’s only a basic cpu only software encoder for development purposes. You’ve obviously got the development libraries installed for this to happen. There is no hardware acceleration here.

There is no point in using it if your not a developer so just disable it in preferences.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:50 pm

ok, thanck you

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by musicvid » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:47 pm

Whatever the implementation, h264 QSV is pretty horrible.
To get comparable quality with x264, it needs much larger file sizes, around CQ 14.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:33 am

i use nvenc x265 because the new 265 chip from nvidia is super, they have changed newer, it has speed and quality
about QSV I asked out of curiosity, because the processor does not have integrated graphics, and that one could be used, usually being petrified

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by musicvid » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:30 am

i use nvenc x265
What exactly is that?

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:39 am

At video, at handbrake you have h265, h265 10 bit, and nvidia nvenc h265 for convertion, mkv

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by musicvid » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:41 pm

You didn't read or type carefully when replying.
"NVENC x265" does not exist. No hardware implementation.
Handbrake software encoders include x264 and x265.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:21 am

I think you're right, I didn't read too well. I can't handle English very well.
I also have a question to ask, for which I would like to receive a clear answer.
What would be the best handbrake processor for video conversions and using all cores?
Those with fewer cores or more?

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by Woodstock » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:13 pm

The question is not "clear", because of factors you probably haven't considered.

There is a limit to how many cores a given encode will use, so if you're looking to have "all cores" used, you go with fewer cores, or do multiple encodes. x265 and x264 have differences in how they use multiple cores, so your choice of encoder affects the "optimum".

How close to 100% your CPU will run depends upon which filters you select; some will throttle the encode, because the encode part runs faster than the filter.

How cool you can keep the processor also affects things; a fast processor with bad cooling can be throttled by the motherboard to keep it from performing as well as it should.

General answer to your question is - the most cores at the fastest clock speed you can afford. Don't look at "threads", but actual CORES in the processor.

Personally, I stick with 8 core processors because they're rather inexpensive. Since I queue things up using the CLI version of handbrake, raw speed isn't as big a selling factor for me.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:13 pm

I have a 7900x i9 and only if I give high speed, at the ultrafast preset encoder, it reaches somewhere at 400fps / s
at medium speed I work, it does somewhere at 200 fps first pass and at second pass it does 100 and something
Can there be any command to use more than 8 cores to speed up the processor ????

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by s55 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:31 pm

If you avoid using filters where at all possible, then pick the x264 preset that best meets your quality/speed/filesize balance. That's all you can do. Beyond that, it's in HandBrakes hands and not something you can tune.

And make sure your NOT still using the QuickSync software encoder. It's slow. x264 runs circles around it in terms of speed.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:11 am

To me it seems to be the same thing with the Quick Sync software encoder, because I'm using h265 nvidia nvenc
when converting to processor, i don't think it uses all cores.
At extra options, is there a command to increase efficiency?

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by Woodstock » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:15 pm

If you're using a hardware encoder like NVENC, you're not going to use a lot of CPU cycles; that's the point of the hardware encoders.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:11 pm

I use this encoder because it has higher speed.
Although it does them well, it will not exceed the 2-step encoding of the processor
If the processor encodes faster, I would use the processor, which is better than all
But going slower, I have the second option envy, weaker what is right and bigger files

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:41 pm

some ideeas when i use processor, to use all core?

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:07 pm

can help me somebody?

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by s55 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:22 pm

This is all managed by HandBrake and not something you can change. So, the advise is, find settings that produces output which you like and enjoy.

For a given source and settings, HandBrake will always try use the maximum possible CPU or GPU ASIC utilisation however this is not always possible.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:45 pm

Thank you for the answer
I used the new version of handbrake, 1.3.0 and you seem to have also improved the quality when coding h265 nvenc, the results are much better now or do I think?

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by s55 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:55 pm

The only thing that changed was the default rate control method used. It should help a bit but it also completely changes the Quality scale so you'd need to take that into consideration. 22 in 1.2.0 is not the same as it is in 1.3.0

The encoder itself hasn't changed.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:02 pm

anyway, i used h265 nvenc and after finishing a clip, with the same settings as before i used them, the quality is higher, but the size of gb is the same

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by BradleyS » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:15 am

Well, this is good then. Basically, NVENC is allowed to vary the bit rate distribution more, using fewer bits where more isn't necessary, and more where it can improve quality.

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Re: H264 Intel Quick sync video

Post by kata40 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:48 am

Thank you very much for your help
all the best

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