4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

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deathtical
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4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by deathtical » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:22 pm

What I'm working with...

Visio P65 w/ Amazon Fire Cube - Streaming with the Kodi app - using wifi
Visio M55 w/ Nvidia Shield TV - Streaming with the Kodi app - using 1Gb/s wired connection

What I'm encoding to...

For all my 4K encodes I am using the Roku 4K 60fps preset. The only thing I change is the audio settings. I don't down convert my audio streams, I set them to the appropreate passthrough option (ie: True-HD set to True-HD passthrough).

I just upgraded to the above 4K TVs this past weekend so it was my first chance to really watch my 4K encodes. I have noticed that I get some different behavior. Here are my examples...

The Matrix: on the AFC and it ran fine until I got to the schene where they are going to save Morphious. I got a lot of stuttering and buffering.

Ender's Game: wathed on the AFC I had no problems and no buffering.

Blade Runner 2049: on the NSTV about every 15 - 20 min it would hang for about 30 seconds and then boot me back out to the menu.

The Professional: on the NSTV I had no problems and no buffering.

What I would like to know is this...

Am I using the best preset for this setup? (I am currently running an encode using the Roku 4K 30fps with the quality bumped up to 22 to test later of Blade Runner 2049 since that's the one I had the worst issues with)
Is there a better preset you would recommend?

My concerns are image quality with smooth, consistant play back without altering the audio streams. I think the only 4K presets currently in HB are the two "Roku" ones. I know you guys like to see encode logs but these were encoded quite a while back and I doubt I have them anymore. Will check when I get home. I also updated to teh latest stable HB build last night before starting my Roku 4K 30fps encode. I think the previous ones where done on 1.1.1.0 or 1.1.0.1, again, will need to check when I get home. File size dowsn't appear to be an issue as The Professional was the largest of the 4 films and it played flawlessly.

Thank you

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Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by mduell » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:06 pm

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deathtical
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Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by deathtical » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:28 am

I know. Just got a chance to look and it looks like the only log I have is from the test Roku 4K 30fps encode that just finished.

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HandBrake 1.1.2 (2018090500) - 64bit
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.17134.0 - 64bit
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor         
Ram: 32696 MB, 
GPU Information:
  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 24.21.13.9882
Screen: 3840x2160
Temp Dir: C:\Users\James\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\HandBrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\James\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake

-------------------------------------------


# Starting Encode ...

[16:18:31] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[16:18:31] 1 job(s) to process
[16:18:31] json job:
{
  "Audio": {
    "AudioList": [
      {
        "DRC": 0.0,
        "Encoder": 1107296256,
        "Gain": 0.0,
        "Mixdown": -1,
        "NormalizeMixLevel": false,
        "Samplerate": 48000,
        "Track": 0,
        "DitherMethod": 0
      },
      {
        "DRC": 0.0,
        "Encoder": 1073750016,
        "Gain": 0.0,
        "Mixdown": -1,
        "NormalizeMixLevel": false,
        "Samplerate": 48000,
        "Track": 2,
        "DitherMethod": 0
      }
    ],
    "CopyMask": [
      1073807360,
      1073743872,
      1074003968,
      1073750016,
      1090519040,
      1074790400,
      1074266112,
      1107296256
    ],
    "FallbackEncoder": 2048
  },
  "Destination": {
    "ChapterList": [
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 1"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 2"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 3"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 4"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 5"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 6"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 7"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 8"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 9"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 10"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 11"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 12"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 13"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 14"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 15"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 16"
      }
    ],
    "ChapterMarkers": true,
    "AlignAVStart": false,
    "File": "D:\\Blade Runner 2049.mkv",
    "Mp4Options": {
      "IpodAtom": false,
      "Mp4Optimize": false
    },
    "Mux": 2097152
  },
  "Filters": {
    "FilterList": [
      {
        "ID": 11,
        "Settings": {
          "crop-bottom": "280",
          "crop-left": "0",
          "crop-right": "0",
          "crop-top": "280",
          "height": "1600",
          "width": "3840"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 6,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "2",
          "rate": "27000000/900000"
        }
      }
    ]
  },
  "PAR": {
    "Num": 1,
    "Den": 1
  },
  "Metadata": {},
  "SequenceID": 0,
  "Source": {
    "Angle": 1,
    "Range": {
      "Type": "chapter",
      "Start": 1,
      "End": 16
    },
    "Title": 1,
    "Path": "U:\\Blade Runner 2049.mkv"
  },
  "Subtitle": {
    "Search": {
      "Burn": true,
      "Default": false,
      "Enable": true,
      "Forced": true
    },
    "SubtitleList": []
  },
  "Video": {
    "Encoder": 4096,
    "Level": "auto",
    "TwoPass": false,
    "Turbo": false,
    "ColorMatrixCode": 0,
    "Options": "strong-intra-smoothing=0:rect=0",
    "Preset": "slow",
    "Profile": "main",
    "Quality": 20.0,
    "HWDecode": false,
    "QSV": {
      "Decode": false,
      "AsyncDepth": 0
    }
  }
}
[16:18:31] CPU:
[16:18:31]  - logical processor count: 16
[16:18:31] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[16:18:31] hb_scan: path=U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv, title_index=1
udfread ERROR: ECMA 167 Volume Recognition failed
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:323: failed opening UDF image U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
[16:18:31] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 6.0.0
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[16:18:31] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv':
  Metadata:
    title           : Blade Runner 2049
  Duration: 02:43:47.65, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A
    Chapter #0:0: start 0.000000, end 770.269500
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 01
    Chapter #0:1: start 770.269500, end 1423.213458
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 02
    Chapter #0:2: start 1423.213458, end 2234.982750
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 03
    Chapter #0:3: start 2234.982750, end 2584.331750
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 04
    Chapter #0:4: start 2584.331750, end 2978.600625
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 05
    Chapter #0:5: start 2978.600625, end 3529.651125
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 06
    Chapter #0:6: start 3529.651125, end 3864.735875
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 07
    Chapter #0:7: start 3864.735875, end 4561.348458
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 08
    Chapter #0:8: start 4561.348458, end 5126.579792
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 09
    Chapter #0:9: start 5126.579792, end 5789.158375
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 10
    Chapter #0:10: start 5789.158375, end 6668.870542
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 11
    Chapter #0:11: start 6668.870542, end 7310.886917
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 12
    Chapter #0:12: start 7310.886917, end 7734.476750
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 13
    Chapter #0:13: start 7734.476750, end 8216.416542
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 14
    Chapter #0:14: start 8216.416542, end 8881.122250
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 15
    Chapter #0:15: start 8881.122250, end 9827.651167
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 16
    Stream #0:0(eng): Video: hevc (Main 10)
      yuv420p10le, tv, bt2020nc/bt2020/smpte2084
      3840x2160 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9
      23.98 fps, 1k tbn
    Metadata:
      BPS-eng         : 58042717
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.651166666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 235628
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 71302946859
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001011
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: truehd
      48000 Hz, 7.1, s32 (default)
    Metadata:
      title           : Surround 7.1
      BPS-eng         : 3710350
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.651666666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 11793182
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 4558003154
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001100
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0:2(eng): Audio: dts (DTS-HD MA)
      48000 Hz, 5.1, fltp, 1536 kb/s
    Metadata:
      title           : Surround 5.1
      BPS-eng         : 3825888
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.658666666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 921343
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 4699940548
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001101
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0:3(eng): Audio: dts (DTS)
      48000 Hz, 5.1, fltp, 1536 kb/s
    Metadata:
      title           : Surround 5.1
      BPS-eng         : 1509000
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.658666666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 921343
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 1853742116
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001101
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
[16:18:31] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[16:18:31] scan: audio 0x1: truehd, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1 English (TrueHD) (7.1 ch)
[16:18:31] scan: audio 0x2: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS-HD MA) (5.1 ch)
[16:18:31] scan: audio 0x3: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[16:18:38] scan: 10 previews, 3840x2160, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 280/280/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[16:18:38] scan: supported video decoders: avcodec qsv
[16:18:38] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[16:18:38] Skipping subtitle scan.  No suitable subtitle tracks.
[16:18:38] starting job
[16:18:38] job configuration:
[16:18:38]  * source
[16:18:38]    + U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv
[16:18:38]    + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 16
[16:18:38]    + container: matroska,webm
[16:18:38]  * destination
[16:18:38]    + D:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv
[16:18:38]    + container: Matroska (libavformat)
[16:18:38]      + chapter markers
[16:18:38]  * video track
[16:18:38]    + decoder: hevc
[16:18:38]    + filters
[16:18:38]      + Framerate Shaper (mode=2:rate=27000000/900000)
[16:18:38]        + frame rate: 23.976 fps -> peak rate limited to 30.000 fps
[16:18:38]      + Crop and Scale (width=3840:height=1600:crop-top=280:crop-bottom=280:crop-left=0:crop-right=0)
[16:18:38]        + source: 3840 * 2160, crop (280/280/0/0): 3840 * 1600, scale: 3840 * 1600
[16:18:38]    + Output geometry
[16:18:38]      + storage dimensions: 3840 x 1600
[16:18:38]      + pixel aspect ratio: 1 : 1
[16:18:38]      + display dimensions: 3840 x 1600
[16:18:38]    + encoder: H.265 (libx265)
[16:18:38]      + preset:  slow
[16:18:38]      + options: strong-intra-smoothing=0:rect=0
[16:18:38]      + profile: main
[16:18:38]      + quality: 20.00 (RF)
[16:18:38]  * audio track 1
[16:18:38]    + decoder: English (TrueHD) (7.1 ch) (track 1, id 0x1)
[16:18:38]      + samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:18:38]    + TrueHD Passthru
[16:18:38]  * audio track 2
[16:18:38]    + decoder: English (DTS) (5.1 ch) (track 3, id 0x3)
[16:18:38]      + bitrate: 1536 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:18:38]    + DTS Passthru
[16:18:38] sync: expecting 235627 video frames
x265 [info]: HEVC encoder version 2.6
x265 [info]: build info [Windows][GCC 7.3.0][64 bit] 8bit+10bit+12bit
x265 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast LZCNT SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX FMA3 BMI2 AVX2
x265 [info]: Main profile, Level-5 (Main tier)
x265 [info]: Thread pool created using 16 threads
x265 [info]: Slices                              : 1
x265 [info]: frame threads / pool features       : 4 / wpp(25 rows)
x265 [info]: Coding QT: max CU size, min CU size : 64 / 8
x265 [info]: Residual QT: max TU size, max depth : 32 / 1 inter / 1 intra
x265 [info]: ME / range / subpel / merge         : star / 57 / 3 / 3
x265 [info]: Keyframe min / max / scenecut / bias: 24 / 240 / 40 / 5.00
x265 [info]: Lookahead / bframes / badapt        : 25 / 4 / 2
x265 [info]: b-pyramid / weightp / weightb       : 1 / 1 / 0
x265 [info]: References / ref-limit  cu / depth  : 4 / on / on
x265 [info]: AQ: mode / str / qg-size / cu-tree  : 1 / 1.0 / 32 / 1
x265 [info]: Rate Control / qCompress            : CRF-20.0 / 0.60
x265 [info]: tools: limit-modes rd=4 psy-rd=2.00 rdoq=2 psy-rdoq=1.00 rskip
x265 [info]: tools: signhide tmvp lslices=4 deblock sao
[16:18:39] sync: first pts audio 0x1 is 0
[16:18:39] sync: first pts audio 0x3 is 0
[16:18:39] sync: first pts video is 0
[16:18:39] sync: "Chapter 1" (1) at frame 1 time 0
[17:20:27] sync: "Chapter 2" (2) at frame 18469 time 69324255
[18:23:51] sync: "Chapter 3" (3) at frame 34127 time 128100472
[19:37:29] sync: "Chapter 4" (4) at frame 53587 time 201148447
[20:09:03] sync: "Chapter 5" (5) at frame 61963 time 232589857
[20:48:13] sync: "Chapter 6" (6) at frame 71416 time 268074056
[21:34:57] sync: "Chapter 7" (7) at frame 84631 time 317679862
[22:14:08] sync: "Chapter 8" (8) at frame 92662 time 347826228
[23:11:34] sync: "Chapter 9" (9) at frame 109365 time 410525115
[23:54:15] sync: "Chapter 10" (10) at frame 122916 time 461392181
[00:55:58] sync: "Chapter 11" (11) at frame 138805 time 521035515
[02:14:46] sync: "Chapter 12" (12) at frame 159894 time 600198348
[03:06:18] sync: "Chapter 13" (13) at frame 175287 time 657979822
[03:47:56] sync: "Chapter 14" (14) at frame 185443 time 696102907
[04:51:47] sync: "Chapter 15" (15) at frame 196998 time 739477488
[06:20:54] sync: "Chapter 16" (16) at frame 212938 time 799312263
[07:12:23] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[07:12:36] work: average encoding speed for job is 4.393122 fps
[07:12:36] vfr: 235628 frames output, 0 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
[07:12:36] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[07:12:36] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[07:12:36] truehd-decoder done: 11793182 frames, 0 decoder errors
[07:12:36] dca-decoder done: 921343 frames, 0 decoder errors
[07:12:36] hevc-decoder done: 235628 frames, 0 decoder errors
[07:12:36] sync: got 235628 frames, 235627 expected
[07:12:36] sync: framerate min 23.981 fps, max 23.981 fps, avg 23.976 fps
x265 [info]: frame I:   1591, Avg QP:17.29  kb/s: 23224.82
x265 [info]: frame P:  50571, Avg QP:19.05  kb/s: 10576.17
x265 [info]: frame B: 183466, Avg QP:22.83  kb/s: 2945.85
x265 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:3.1% UV:1.9%
x265 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 4.3% 3.7% 3.5% 13.2% 75.3%
encoded 235628 frames in 53637.80s (4.39 fps), 4720.41 kb/s, Avg QP:21.99
[07:12:37] mux: track 0, 235628 frames, 5799764846 bytes, 4721.16 kbps, fifo 512
[07:12:37] mux: track 1, 11793182 frames, 4558003154 bytes, 3710.33 kbps, fifo 32768
[07:12:37] mux: track 2, 921343 frames, 1853742116 bytes, 1508.99 kbps, fifo 2048
[07:12:37] libhb: work result = 0

# Encode Completed ...

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HandBrake 1.1.2 (2018090500) - 64bit
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.17134.0 - 64bit
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor         
Ram: 32696 MB, 
GPU Information:
  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 24.21.13.9882
Screen: 3840x2160
Temp Dir: C:\Users\James\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\HandBrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\James\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake

-------------------------------------------


# Starting Encode ...

[16:18:31] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[16:18:31] 1 job(s) to process
[16:18:31] json job:
{
  "Audio": {
    "AudioList": [
      {
        "DRC": 0.0,
        "Encoder": 1107296256,
        "Gain": 0.0,
        "Mixdown": -1,
        "NormalizeMixLevel": false,
        "Samplerate": 48000,
        "Track": 0,
        "DitherMethod": 0
      },
      {
        "DRC": 0.0,
        "Encoder": 1073750016,
        "Gain": 0.0,
        "Mixdown": -1,
        "NormalizeMixLevel": false,
        "Samplerate": 48000,
        "Track": 2,
        "DitherMethod": 0
      }
    ],
    "CopyMask": [
      1073807360,
      1073743872,
      1074003968,
      1073750016,
      1090519040,
      1074790400,
      1074266112,
      1107296256
    ],
    "FallbackEncoder": 2048
  },
  "Destination": {
    "ChapterList": [
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 1"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 2"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 3"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 4"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 5"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 6"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 7"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 8"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 9"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 10"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 11"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 12"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 13"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 14"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 15"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 16"
      }
    ],
    "ChapterMarkers": true,
    "AlignAVStart": false,
    "File": "D:\\Blade Runner 2049.mkv",
    "Mp4Options": {
      "IpodAtom": false,
      "Mp4Optimize": false
    },
    "Mux": 2097152
  },
  "Filters": {
    "FilterList": [
      {
        "ID": 11,
        "Settings": {
          "crop-bottom": "280",
          "crop-left": "0",
          "crop-right": "0",
          "crop-top": "280",
          "height": "1600",
          "width": "3840"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 6,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "2",
          "rate": "27000000/900000"
        }
      }
    ]
  },
  "PAR": {
    "Num": 1,
    "Den": 1
  },
  "Metadata": {},
  "SequenceID": 0,
  "Source": {
    "Angle": 1,
    "Range": {
      "Type": "chapter",
      "Start": 1,
      "End": 16
    },
    "Title": 1,
    "Path": "U:\\Blade Runner 2049.mkv"
  },
  "Subtitle": {
    "Search": {
      "Burn": true,
      "Default": false,
      "Enable": true,
      "Forced": true
    },
    "SubtitleList": []
  },
  "Video": {
    "Encoder": 4096,
    "Level": "auto",
    "TwoPass": false,
    "Turbo": false,
    "ColorMatrixCode": 0,
    "Options": "strong-intra-smoothing=0:rect=0",
    "Preset": "slow",
    "Profile": "main",
    "Quality": 20.0,
    "HWDecode": false,
    "QSV": {
      "Decode": false,
      "AsyncDepth": 0
    }
  }
}
[16:18:31] CPU:
[16:18:31]  - logical processor count: 16
[16:18:31] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[16:18:31] hb_scan: path=U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv, title_index=1
udfread ERROR: ECMA 167 Volume Recognition failed
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:323: failed opening UDF image U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
[16:18:31] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 6.0.0
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[16:18:31] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv':
  Metadata:
    title           : Blade Runner 2049
  Duration: 02:43:47.65, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A
    Chapter #0:0: start 0.000000, end 770.269500
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 01
    Chapter #0:1: start 770.269500, end 1423.213458
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 02
    Chapter #0:2: start 1423.213458, end 2234.982750
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 03
    Chapter #0:3: start 2234.982750, end 2584.331750
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 04
    Chapter #0:4: start 2584.331750, end 2978.600625
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 05
    Chapter #0:5: start 2978.600625, end 3529.651125
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 06
    Chapter #0:6: start 3529.651125, end 3864.735875
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 07
    Chapter #0:7: start 3864.735875, end 4561.348458
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 08
    Chapter #0:8: start 4561.348458, end 5126.579792
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 09
    Chapter #0:9: start 5126.579792, end 5789.158375
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 10
    Chapter #0:10: start 5789.158375, end 6668.870542
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 11
    Chapter #0:11: start 6668.870542, end 7310.886917
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 12
    Chapter #0:12: start 7310.886917, end 7734.476750
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 13
    Chapter #0:13: start 7734.476750, end 8216.416542
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 14
    Chapter #0:14: start 8216.416542, end 8881.122250
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 15
    Chapter #0:15: start 8881.122250, end 9827.651167
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 16
    Stream #0:0(eng): Video: hevc (Main 10)
      yuv420p10le, tv, bt2020nc/bt2020/smpte2084
      3840x2160 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9
      23.98 fps, 1k tbn
    Metadata:
      BPS-eng         : 58042717
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.651166666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 235628
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 71302946859
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001011
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: truehd
      48000 Hz, 7.1, s32 (default)
    Metadata:
      title           : Surround 7.1
      BPS-eng         : 3710350
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.651666666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 11793182
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 4558003154
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001100
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0:2(eng): Audio: dts (DTS-HD MA)
      48000 Hz, 5.1, fltp, 1536 kb/s
    Metadata:
      title           : Surround 5.1
      BPS-eng         : 3825888
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.658666666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 921343
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 4699940548
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001101
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0:3(eng): Audio: dts (DTS)
      48000 Hz, 5.1, fltp, 1536 kb/s
    Metadata:
      title           : Surround 5.1
      BPS-eng         : 1509000
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.658666666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 921343
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 1853742116
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001101
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
[16:18:31] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[16:18:31] scan: audio 0x1: truehd, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1 English (TrueHD) (7.1 ch)
[16:18:31] scan: audio 0x2: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS-HD MA) (5.1 ch)
[16:18:31] scan: audio 0x3: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[16:18:38] scan: 10 previews, 3840x2160, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 280/280/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[16:18:38] scan: supported video decoders: avcodec qsv
[16:18:38] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[16:18:38] Skipping subtitle scan.  No suitable subtitle tracks.
[16:18:38] starting job
[16:18:38] job configuration:
[16:18:38]  * source
[16:18:38]    + U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv
[16:18:38]    + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 16
[16:18:38]    + container: matroska,webm
[16:18:38]  * destination
[16:18:38]    + D:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv
[16:18:38]    + container: Matroska (libavformat)
[16:18:38]      + chapter markers
[16:18:38]  * video track
[16:18:38]    + decoder: hevc
[16:18:38]    + filters
[16:18:38]      + Framerate Shaper (mode=2:rate=27000000/900000)
[16:18:38]        + frame rate: 23.976 fps -> peak rate limited to 30.000 fps
[16:18:38]      + Crop and Scale (width=3840:height=1600:crop-top=280:crop-bottom=280:crop-left=0:crop-right=0)
[16:18:38]        + source: 3840 * 2160, crop (280/280/0/0): 3840 * 1600, scale: 3840 * 1600
[16:18:38]    + Output geometry
[16:18:38]      + storage dimensions: 3840 x 1600
[16:18:38]      + pixel aspect ratio: 1 : 1
[16:18:38]      + display dimensions: 3840 x 1600
[16:18:38]    + encoder: H.265 (libx265)
[16:18:38]      + preset:  slow
[16:18:38]      + options: strong-intra-smoothing=0:rect=0
[16:18:38]      + profile: main
[16:18:38]      + quality: 20.00 (RF)
[16:18:38]  * audio track 1
[16:18:38]    + decoder: English (TrueHD) (7.1 ch) (track 1, id 0x1)
[16:18:38]      + samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:18:38]    + TrueHD Passthru
[16:18:38]  * audio track 2
[16:18:38]    + decoder: English (DTS) (5.1 ch) (track 3, id 0x3)
[16:18:38]      + bitrate: 1536 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:18:38]    + DTS Passthru
[16:18:38] sync: expecting 235627 video frames
x265 [info]: HEVC encoder version 2.6
x265 [info]: build info [Windows][GCC 7.3.0][64 bit] 8bit+10bit+12bit
x265 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast LZCNT SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX FMA3 BMI2 AVX2
x265 [info]: Main profile, Level-5 (Main tier)
x265 [info]: Thread pool created using 16 threads
x265 [info]: Slices                              : 1
x265 [info]: frame threads / pool features       : 4 / wpp(25 rows)
x265 [info]: Coding QT: max CU size, min CU size : 64 / 8
x265 [info]: Residual QT: max TU size, max depth : 32 / 1 inter / 1 intra
x265 [info]: ME / range / subpel / merge         : star / 57 / 3 / 3
x265 [info]: Keyframe min / max / scenecut / bias: 24 / 240 / 40 / 5.00
x265 [info]: Lookahead / bframes / badapt        : 25 / 4 / 2
x265 [info]: b-pyramid / weightp / weightb       : 1 / 1 / 0
x265 [info]: References / ref-limit  cu / depth  : 4 / on / on
x265 [info]: AQ: mode / str / qg-size / cu-tree  : 1 / 1.0 / 32 / 1
x265 [info]: Rate Control / qCompress            : CRF-20.0 / 0.60
x265 [info]: tools: limit-modes rd=4 psy-rd=2.00 rdoq=2 psy-rdoq=1.00 rskip
x265 [info]: tools: signhide tmvp lslices=4 deblock sao
[16:18:39] sync: first pts audio 0x1 is 0
[16:18:39] sync: first pts audio 0x3 is 0
[16:18:39] sync: first pts video is 0
[16:18:39] sync: "Chapter 1" (1) at frame 1 time 0
[17:20:27] sync: "Chapter 2" (2) at frame 18469 time 69324255
[18:23:51] sync: "Chapter 3" (3) at frame 34127 time 128100472
[19:37:29] sync: "Chapter 4" (4) at frame 53587 time 201148447
[20:09:03] sync: "Chapter 5" (5) at frame 61963 time 232589857
[20:48:13] sync: "Chapter 6" (6) at frame 71416 time 268074056
[21:34:57] sync: "Chapter 7" (7) at frame 84631 time 317679862
[22:14:08] sync: "Chapter 8" (8) at frame 92662 time 347826228
[23:11:34] sync: "Chapter 9" (9) at frame 109365 time 410525115
[23:54:15] sync: "Chapter 10" (10) at frame 122916 time 461392181
[00:55:58] sync: "Chapter 11" (11) at frame 138805 time 521035515
[02:14:46] sync: "Chapter 12" (12) at frame 159894 time 600198348
[03:06:18] sync: "Chapter 13" (13) at frame 175287 time 657979822
[03:47:56] sync: "Chapter 14" (14) at frame 185443 time 696102907
[04:51:47] sync: "Chapter 15" (15) at frame 196998 time 739477488
[06:20:54] sync: "Chapter 16" (16) at frame 212938 time 799312263
[07:12:23] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[07:12:36] work: average encoding speed for job is 4.393122 fps
[07:12:36] vfr: 235628 frames output, 0 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
[07:12:36] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[07:12:36] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[07:12:36] truehd-decoder done: 11793182 frames, 0 decoder errors
[07:12:36] dca-decoder done: 921343 frames, 0 decoder errors
[07:12:36] hevc-decoder done: 235628 frames, 0 decoder errors
[07:12:36] sync: got 235628 frames, 235627 expected
[07:12:36] sync: framerate min 23.981 fps, max 23.981 fps, avg 23.976 fps
x265 [info]: frame I:   1591, Avg QP:17.29  kb/s: 23224.82
x265 [info]: frame P:  50571, Avg QP:19.05  kb/s: 10576.17
x265 [info]: frame B: 183466, Avg QP:22.83  kb/s: 2945.85
x265 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:3.1% UV:1.9%
x265 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 4.3% 3.7% 3.5% 13.2% 75.3%
encoded 235628 frames in 53637.80s (4.39 fps), 4720.41 kb/s, Avg QP:21.99
[07:12:37] mux: track 0, 235628 frames, 5799764846 bytes, 4721.16 kbps, fifo 512
[07:12:37] mux: track 1, 11793182 frames, 4558003154 bytes, 3710.33 kbps, fifo 32768
[07:12:37] mux: track 2, 921343 frames, 1853742116 bytes, 1508.99 kbps, fifo 2048
[07:12:37] libhb: work result = 0

# Encode Completed ...

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[16:01:26] hb_init: starting libhb thread

 # Starting Scan ...

[16:01:26] CPU:
[16:01:26]  - logical processor count: 16
[16:01:26] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[16:01:26] hb_scan: path=U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv, title_index=0
udfread ERROR: ECMA 167 Volume Recognition failed
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:323: failed opening UDF image U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
[16:01:26] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 5.0.3
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[16:01:26] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'U:\Blade Runner 2049.mkv':
  Metadata:
    title           : Blade Runner 2049
  Duration: 02:43:47.65, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A
    Chapter #0:0: start 0.000000, end 770.269500
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 01
    Chapter #0:1: start 770.269500, end 1423.213458
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 02
    Chapter #0:2: start 1423.213458, end 2234.982750
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 03
    Chapter #0:3: start 2234.982750, end 2584.331750
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 04
    Chapter #0:4: start 2584.331750, end 2978.600625
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 05
    Chapter #0:5: start 2978.600625, end 3529.651125
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 06
    Chapter #0:6: start 3529.651125, end 3864.735875
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 07
    Chapter #0:7: start 3864.735875, end 4561.348458
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 08
    Chapter #0:8: start 4561.348458, end 5126.579792
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 09
    Chapter #0:9: start 5126.579792, end 5789.158375
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 10
    Chapter #0:10: start 5789.158375, end 6668.870542
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 11
    Chapter #0:11: start 6668.870542, end 7310.886917
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 12
    Chapter #0:12: start 7310.886917, end 7734.476750
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 13
    Chapter #0:13: start 7734.476750, end 8216.416542
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 14
    Chapter #0:14: start 8216.416542, end 8881.122250
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 15
    Chapter #0:15: start 8881.122250, end 9827.651167
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 16
    Stream #0:0(eng): Video: hevc (Main 10)
      yuv420p10le, tv, bt2020nc/bt2020/smpte2084
      3840x2160 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9
      23.98 fps, 1k tbn
    Metadata:
      BPS-eng         : 58042717
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.651166666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 235628
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 71302946859
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001011
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: truehd
      48000 Hz, 7.1, s32 (default)
    Metadata:
      title           : Surround 7.1
      BPS-eng         : 3710350
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.651666666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 11793182
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 4558003154
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001100
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0:2(eng): Audio: dts (DTS-HD MA)
      48000 Hz, 5.1, fltp, 1536 kb/s
    Metadata:
      title           : Surround 5.1
      BPS-eng         : 3825888
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.658666666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 921343
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 4699940548
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001101
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0:3(eng): Audio: dts (DTS)
      48000 Hz, 5.1, fltp, 1536 kb/s
    Metadata:
      title           : Surround 5.1
      BPS-eng         : 1509000
      DURATION-eng    : 02:43:47.658666666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 921343
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 1853742116
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 001101
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.12.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-05-24 02:38:03
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
[16:01:26] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[16:01:26] scan: audio 0x1: truehd, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1 English (TrueHD) (7.1 ch)
[16:01:26] scan: audio 0x2: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS-HD MA) (5.1 ch)
[16:01:26] scan: audio 0x3: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[16:01:33] scan: 10 previews, 3840x2160, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 280/280/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[16:01:33] scan: supported video decoders: avcodec qsv
[16:01:33] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)

 # Processing Scan Information ...


 # Scan Finished ...

I'll let you know how it plays.

Thank you

deathtical
Posts: 79
Joined: Tue May 01, 2012 3:06 pm

Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by deathtical » Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:42 pm

So... the Roku 4K 30fps played with no problems. Even with the quality bumped up to 22. I guess that will be my new preset of choice. I am just curious though, what were the ideas that you had? I'm guessing you've either seen or heard of a similar situation. I'm happy to experiment a bit if it means getting the "perfect" encode.

Thanks

Oh, I also found it amusing that the 30fps file was 150% the size of the 60fps file. Not sure how that math works out, but storage isn't a big concern at the moment.

musicvid
Veteran User
Posts: 3134
Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:19 am

Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by musicvid » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:03 am

using wifi
You would be wise to focus on that, and only that, for the time being.
Router in the same room as the TV and server device. Minimum 300 Mbps actual measured sustainable bidirectional throughput. Necessary, not optional for reliable 4k.
Router advertised speeds are meaningless!
WiFi is your bottleneck and one cause of stalls and dropped streams. You can drop your quality or improve your throughput, whichever sounds best to you. When fixed, you will have a bit more flexibility in your encoding settings. Also don't use a WD USB as a network media server. They drop streams frequently, while others are not as bad.

Here's a useful .bat file to help you. Fping.exe is required in your user account folder.

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@ECHO ON
@ECHO *
@ECHO Router Ping Utility (routerping.bat)
@ECHO Useful for comparing throughput using various WiFi channels (1, 6, 11)
@ECHO Also 5GHz band
@ECHO *
@ECHO EDIT FILE WITH YOUR ROUTER'S IP AND LOCATION OF fping.exe (required)
@ECHO Test takes 2+ minutes to complete (2000 pings)
@ECHO To stop - type Control-C.
@ECHO *
@pause

@REM Add (-L filename.txt) to create a Logfile.
@REM See fping documentation for more parameters.
@REM EDIT YOUR ROUTER IP AND PATH TO fping.exe HERE
@C:\Users\****\fping.exe 192.168.1.1 -n 2000 -s 32768 -t 1 -L router.txt


@ECHO *
@ECHO More than 5 dropped packets may indicate channel interference.
@ECHO DIVIDE 500 BY AVERAGE TIME TO GET RELATIVE THROUGHPUT (Mbps)
@ECHO 30-40 percent of your router max is good.
@ECHO *
@pause

deathtical
Posts: 79
Joined: Tue May 01, 2012 3:06 pm

Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by deathtical » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:02 pm

musicvid wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:03 am
using wifi
You would be wise to focus on that, and only that, for the time being.
Router in the same room as the TV and server device. Minimum 300 Mbps actual measured sustainable bidirectional throughput. Necessary, not optional for reliable 4k.
Router advertised speeds are meaningless!
WiFi is your bottleneck and one cause of stalls and dropped streams. You can drop your quality or improve your throughput, whichever sounds best to you. When fixed, you will have a bit more flexibility in your encoding settings. Also don't use a WD USB as a network media server. They drop streams frequently, while others are not as bad.

Here's a useful .bat file to help you. Fping.exe is required in your user account folder.

Code: Select all

@ECHO ON
@ECHO *
@ECHO Router Ping Utility (routerping.bat)
@ECHO Useful for comparing throughput using various WiFi channels (1, 6, 11)
@ECHO Also 5GHz band
@ECHO *
@ECHO EDIT FILE WITH YOUR ROUTER'S IP AND LOCATION OF fping.exe (required)
@ECHO Test takes 2+ minutes to complete (2000 pings)
@ECHO To stop - type Control-C.
@ECHO *
@pause

@REM Add (-L filename.txt) to create a Logfile.
@REM See fping documentation for more parameters.
@REM EDIT YOUR ROUTER IP AND PATH TO fping.exe HERE
@C:\Users\****\fping.exe 192.168.1.1 -n 2000 -s 32768 -t 1 -L router.txt


@ECHO *
@ECHO More than 5 dropped packets may indicate channel interference.
@ECHO DIVIDE 500 BY AVERAGE TIME TO GET RELATIVE THROUGHPUT (Mbps)
@ECHO 30-40 percent of your router max is good.
@ECHO *
@pause
I appreciate this, but I am a network engineer, this was the first thing I looked at. Also, my nas is a 24Tb FreeNAS box phyically connected to my router via 1Gb. My network and hardware are not the bottleneck here. If I get the same issue over a wired connection that I do over wifi, then it is something with file. I'm relatively new to encoding 4K files and just need to find that "sweet" spot.

Thank you

musicvid
Veteran User
Posts: 3134
Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:19 am

Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by musicvid » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:43 pm

If you are getting any stream drops and stutters over a wired connection, yes, there is something else very wrong, and my utility can help you track lost packets there, too. Hope that's a dedicated connection, start there. Even a network switch can be a bottleneck. You should have little trouble getting a dos .bat file working, since it's the first thing we were taught in networking 101, right?

That said, Blade Runner is notorious for clogging up quality based encoders. You will find plenty of mention of it on this forum, and sustained high bitrates are are a problem for even local playback. Does your encode stutter in VLC Player, too?

Things that can help are a lower vbv-maxrate (obvious), higher RF (less complexity), and a light denoise filter. You pay a price for noise in this game, and I ended up encoding Fargo at 2 pass vbr to tame sustained bursts.

Start at square one, dont assume anything about your network until you have tested each hop, and I'm confident you'll get it.

deathtical
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Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by deathtical » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:32 pm

musicvid wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:43 pm
If you are getting any stream drops and stutters over a wired connection, yes, there is something else very wrong, and my utility can help you track lost packets there, too. Hope that's a dedicated connection, start there. Even a network switch can be a bottleneck. You should have little trouble getting a dos .bat file working, since it's the first thing we were taught in networking 101, right?

That said, Blade Runner is notorious for clogging up quality based encoders. You will find plenty of mention of it on this forum, and sustained high bitrates are are a problem for even local playback. Does your encode stutter in VLC Player, too?

Things that can help are a lower vbv-maxrate (obvious), higher RF (less complexity), and a light denoise filter. You pay a price for noise in this game, and I ended up encoding Fargo at 2 pass vbr to tame sustained bursts.

Start at square one, dont assume anything about your network until you have tested each hop, and I'm confident you'll get it.
I switched to the 30fps 4k preset and that appears to have "fixed" the issue. I am tweaking things now to get the best picture. Just sucks that most 4k encodes take at least 12 hours to run. Oh well.

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Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by Woodstock » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:31 pm

During testing, though, you do not have to encode the whole thing... Just a section that covers the "troublesome" parts of the source.

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Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by BradleyS » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:35 pm

Sounds like some of your devices have issues with 2160p at high bit rates, probably due to a small decoded picture buffer. Lowering the quality, frame rate, or both are the only options, short of diving into vbv-related settings and doing a ton of testing.

Looks like your sources are < 30 fps to begin with so you'll have to lower quality.

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Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by musicvid » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:41 am

I agree, and downlimiting vbv-maxrate alone on a dedicated connection sometimes cleans it up.
A starting point for me is to keep my bitrate spikes at 1/3 of my maximum sustained throughput as estimated using pingflood utility above.

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Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by deathtical » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:30 pm

Thanks for the recommendations. I just made an encode of The Dark Knight Rises using these settings...

Started with Roku 4k 30Fps preset then changed...
Added Denoise filter NLMeans set to Medium and Film
Set it to Constant Framerate
Constant Quality to 21
Enabled Fast Decode
Single audio track (in this case DTS with DTS Passthrough)

Granted, it took forever to encode but it may have been worth it. Tested over wired nVidia Shield and it played beautifully. Will test it over wifi soon.

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Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by musicvid » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:11 pm

I suggest the stock denoise filter set to Light.
You don't need all the precision of NLMeans and your encode will go many times faster!

Going forward, post the MediaInfo or logs instead of summarizing your settings. I think I've done things all the time that never actually made it to the encoders.

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Re: 4K streaming at home... looking for some recommendations

Post by musicvid » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:11 pm

I suggest the stock denoise filter set to Light.
You may not need all the built-in precision of NLMeans and your encode may go quite a bit faster!

Going forward, post the MediaInfo or logs instead of summarizing your settings. I think I've done things all the time that never actually made it to the encoders.

Also, are you aware that encoding x264, though larger than x265, will relieve strain on your decoder(s) and hardware, thus clearing up another impediment to delivery throughput. Might try that with or without the other enhancements. It could be important, because Blade Runner seems to be right on the edge of playability for you. I can't tell how much x264 will increase file size, maybe 20-25%.

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