Blu Ray, AppleTV, DTS, 5.1 Sound

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micky1234
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Blu Ray, AppleTV, DTS, 5.1 Sound

Post by micky1234 »

Hello All, Hello Handbrake team

Maybe this has been asked and answered a thousand times, however I can't find it.

Basically what I'm looking for is a Blu-Ray for Dummies to convert to AppleTV.

Scenario
1.) I'm on a Windows Machine
2.) I use AnyDVD to rip
3.) I use Handbrake to encode.
4.) I use Apple TV to view.

Video: Works fine with all the different settings nicely explained in this forums
Audio if available as AC3 stream is working also beautifully with 5.1, however,

Problem:
DTS: I would like to get DTS 5.1 Sound on my Denon AVR and it would be capable of 5.1 over DTS if only it would "JUST" passthrough, however it doesn't
Looking a bit closer it seems that most of the Blu-Ray discs have AC3 Stereo, which will passthrough fine, but it is only Stereo, I still would like to have 5.1
It seems most of the Blue-Ray have only DTS 5.1.

So how do I get this DTS 5.1 sound as pass through encoded and played correctly by my AppleTV?

Do I need to extract the DTS audio streams, encode it as ac3 then mix the whole thing together again? Or is there an easier...

Solution:
????

Thanks for your help!
dynaflash
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Re: Blu Ray, AppleTV, DTS, 5.1 Sound

Post by dynaflash »

micky1234 wrote:So how do I get this DTS 5.1 sound as pass through encoded and played correctly by my AppleTV?

Do I need to extract the DTS audio streams, encode it as ac3 then mix the whole thing together again? Or is there an easier...

Solution:
????

Thanks for your help!
DTS passthrough is not supported in an mp4 so thats not an option http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=17268 .
Yes, re encoding the dts sound track to AC3 is the only solution for the atv to maintain the 5.1 Dolby Digital. HandBrake does not do this. Best it can do is encode to DPL2.
WorldCup
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Re: Blu Ray, AppleTV, DTS, 5.1 Sound

Post by WorldCup »

What i do is rip the blu ray with Makemkv ( http://www.makemkv.com/ ) then use MKVtools to encode it for the Apple tv ( http://www.emmgunn.com/mokgvm2dvd/mokgvmhome.html ) which will take a dts track and convert it to 5.1 AC3.
micky1234
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Re: Blu Ray, AppleTV, DTS, 5.1 Sound

Post by micky1234 »

Thank you.

What would be then the optimal solution, how are the Movies from the Apple Store encoded (from a sound perspective)?

I decided in the meantime to encode with the Matrovska container and watch it in my jailbroken AppleTV with XBMC.
Is this an acceptable solution or do I then also suffer video/audio quality issues?

Thanks @ dynaflash\ WorldCup for the response.
micky1234
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Re: Blu Ray, AppleTV, DTS, 5.1 Sound

Post by micky1234 »

WorldCup wrote:What i do is rip the blu ray with Makemkv ( http://www.makemkv.com/ ) then use MKVtools to encode it for the Apple tv ( http://www.emmgunn.com/mokgvm2dvd/mokgvmhome.html ) which will take a dts track and convert it to 5.1 AC3.
I guess for this to work I need a MAC, however I must admit despite Iphone/IPAD/APPLETV fanboy, I have not yet a MAC.
nightstrm
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Re: Blu Ray, AppleTV, DTS, 5.1 Sound

Post by nightstrm »

Even though I only own Macs, I prefer to use VMWare/Windows for my Bluray/HDDVD workflow. The forum post below outlines the tools that I use to process these sources before feeding them into Handbrake; it is a little dated (and I'm too lazy to update), but still works as outlined.

http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9258
micky1234
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Re: Blu Ray, AppleTV, DTS, 5.1 Sound

Post by micky1234 »

I use now

1.) AnyDVD to make the rip to iso
2.) Clown_BD to change the DTS to AC3
3.) encode with Handbrake to mp4
4.) encode also to mkv to retain the dts

Between AC3 and DTS are the quality differences? If yes where is more to read?
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