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sydh
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File size reduction

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I have imported an MP4 file and keeping all the settings as same as source, the resulting file has dropped from 691Mb to 20Mb. I was trying to get Handbrake to replicate the file as I am having issues with file compatability in Premiere, but that's another story. How do I export the file to be identical to the original. I am working with 4K but Handbrake has no presets.
And yes, I am new to Handbrake and this forum.
I am on the latest version.
Win 10 64

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HandBrake 1.3.3 (2020061300)
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19041.0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Ram: 16354 MB, 
GPU Information:
  NVIDIA GeForce GT 630 - 23.21.13.9135
Screen: 1680x1050
Temp Dir: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\HandBrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake

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# Starting Encode ...

[01:02:17] base preset: sjh
[13:02:17] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[13:02:17] Starting work at: Wed Dec 23 13:02:17 2020
[13:02:17] 1 job(s) to process
[13:02:17] json job:
{
  "Audio": {
    "AudioList": [
      {
        "Bitrate": 160,
        "DRC": 0.0,
        "Encoder": "av_aac",
        "Gain": 0.0,
        "Mixdown": 4,
        "NormalizeMixLevel": false,
        "Samplerate": 0,
        "Track": 0,
        "DitherMethod": 0
      }
    ],
    "CopyMask": [
      "copy:aac",
      "copy:ac3",
      "copy:dtshd",
      "copy:dts",
      "copy:eac3",
      "copy:flac",
      "copy:mp3",
      "copy:truehd"
    ],
    "FallbackEncoder": "ac3"
  },
  "Destination": {
    "ChapterList": [
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 1"
      }
    ],
    "ChapterMarkers": true,
    "AlignAVStart": true,
    "File": "C:\\Users\\Master\\Desktop\\New folder\\test.mp4",
    "Mp4Options": {
      "IpodAtom": false,
      "Mp4Optimize": false
    },
    "Mux": "av_mp4"
  },
  "Filters": {
    "FilterList": [
      {
        "ID": 4,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "7"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 3,
        "Settings": {
          "block-height": "16",
          "block-thresh": "40",
          "block-width": "16",
          "filter-mode": "2",
          "mode": "3",
          "motion-thresh": "1",
          "spatial-metric": "2",
          "spatial-thresh": "1"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 12,
        "Settings": {
          "crop-bottom": "0",
          "crop-left": "0",
          "crop-right": "0",
          "crop-top": "160",
          "height": "2000",
          "width": "3840"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 6,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "0"
        }
      }
    ]
  },
  "PAR": {
    "Num": 1,
    "Den": 1
  },
  "Metadata": {},
  "SequenceID": 0,
  "Source": {
    "Angle": 1,
    "Range": {
      "Type": "chapter",
      "Start": 1,
      "End": 1
    },
    "Title": 1,
    "Path": "C:\\Users\\Master\\Desktop\\New folder\\A008C014_201220_DJ0B.MP4"
  },
  "Subtitle": {
    "Search": {
      "Burn": true,
      "Default": false,
      "Enable": true,
      "Forced": true
    },
    "SubtitleList": []
  },
  "Video": {
    "Encoder": "x264",
    "Level": "4.0",
    "TwoPass": false,
    "Turbo": false,
    "ColorMatrixCode": 0,
    "Options": "",
    "Preset": "medium",
    "Profile": "main",
    "Quality": 23.0,
    "QSV": {
      "Decode": false,
      "AsyncDepth": 0
    }
  }
}
[13:02:17] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
[13:02:17]  - Intel microarchitecture Ivy Bridge
[13:02:17]  - logical processor count: 8
[13:02:17] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[13:02:17] hb_scan: path=C:\Users\Master\Desktop\New folder\A008C014_201220_DJ0B.MP4, title_index=1
udfread ERROR: ECMA 167 Volume Recognition failed
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:323: failed opening UDF image C:\Users\Master\Desktop\New folder\A008C014_201220_DJ0B.MP4
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/bluray.c:2585: nav_get_title_list(C:\Users\Master\Desktop\New folder\A008C014_201220_DJ0B.MP4\) failed
[13:02:17] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 6.0.1
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[13:02:17] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'C:\Users\Master\Desktop\New folder\A008C014_201220_DJ0B.MP4':
  Metadata:
    major_brand     : mp42
    minor_version   : 1
    compatible_brands: mp42hvc1
    creation_time   : 2020-12-20T18:30:11.000000Z
  Duration: 00:01:25.92, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 65915 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(eng): Video: hevc (Main 10) (hvc1 / 0x31637668), yuv420p10le(tv, bt709), 3840x2160 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 65633 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 25 tbc (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2020-12-20T18:30:11.000000Z
      timecode        : 04:29:01:23
    Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 256 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2020-12-20T18:30:11.000000Z
      timecode        : 04:29:01:23
    Stream #0:2(eng): Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74), 0 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2020-12-20T18:30:11.000000Z
      reel_name       : A008
      timecode        : 04:29:01:23
[13:02:17] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[13:02:19] scan: audio 0x1: aac, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=256015 English (AAC LC) (2.0 ch) (256 kbps)
[13:02:22] scan: 10 previews, 3840x2160, 25.000 fps, autocrop = 160/0/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[13:02:22] scan: supported video decoders: avcodec qsv
[13:02:22] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[13:02:22] Skipping subtitle scan.  No suitable subtitle tracks.
[13:02:22] Starting Task: Encoding Pass
[13:02:22] Skipping vfr filter
[13:02:22] work: only 1 chapter, disabling chapter markers
[13:02:22] job configuration:
[13:02:22]  * source
[13:02:22]    + C:\Users\Master\Desktop\New folder\A008C014_201220_DJ0B.MP4
[13:02:22]    + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 1
[13:02:22]    + container: mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2
[13:02:22]    + data rate: 65915 kbps
[13:02:22]  * destination
[13:02:22]    + C:\Users\Master\Desktop\New folder\test.mp4
[13:02:22]    + container: MPEG-4 (libavformat)
[13:02:22]      + align initial A/V stream timestamps
[13:02:22]  * video track
[13:02:22]    + decoder: hevc
[13:02:22]      + bitrate 65633 kbps
[13:02:22]    + filters
[13:02:22]      + Comb Detect (mode=3:spatial-metric=2:motion-thresh=1:spatial-thresh=1:filter-mode=2:block-thresh=40:block-width=16:block-height=16)
[13:02:22]      + Decomb (mode=39)
[13:02:22]      + Crop and Scale (width=3840:height=2000:crop-top=160:crop-bottom=0:crop-left=0:crop-right=0)
[13:02:22]        + source: 3840 * 2160, crop (160/0/0/0): 3840 * 2000, scale: 3840 * 2000
[13:02:22]    + Output geometry
[13:02:22]      + storage dimensions: 3840 x 2000
[13:02:22]      + pixel aspect ratio: 1 : 1
[13:02:22]      + display dimensions: 3840 x 2000
[13:02:22]    + encoder: H.264 (libx264)
[13:02:22]      + preset:  medium
[13:02:22]      + profile: main
[13:02:22]      + level:   4.0
[13:02:22]      + quality: 23.00 (RF)
[13:02:22]      + color profile: 1-1-1
[13:02:22]  * audio track 1
[13:02:22]    + decoder: English (AAC LC) (2.0 ch) (256 kbps) (track 1, id 0x1)
[13:02:22]      + bitrate: 256 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[13:02:22]    + mixdown: Stereo
[13:02:22]    + dither: none
[13:02:22]    + encoder: AAC (libavcodec)
[13:02:22]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[13:02:22] sync: expecting 2148 video frames
[13:02:22] encx264: encoding at constant RF 23.000000
[13:02:22] apply_h264_level [warning]: frame size (3840x2000, 30000 macroblocks) too high for level 4.0 (max. 8192 macroblocks)
[13:02:22] encx264: unparsed options: level=4.0:ref=1:bframes=0:8x8dct=0:vbv-bufsize=25000:vbv-maxrate=20000
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [warning]: frame MB size (240x125) > level limit (8192)
x264 [warning]: MB rate (750000) > level limit (245760)
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 4.0, 4:2:0, 8-bit
[13:02:23] sync: first pts video is 0
[13:02:23] sync: "Chapter 1" (1) at frame 1 time 0
[13:02:23] sync: first pts audio 0x1 is 0
[13:07:23] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[13:07:38] work: average encoding speed for job is 6.948110 fps
[13:07:38] comb detect: heavy 365 | light 416 | uncombed 1367 | total 2148
[13:07:38] decomb: deinterlaced 365 | blended 416 | unfiltered 1367 | total 2148
[13:07:38] aac-decoder done: 4028 frames, 0 decoder errors
[13:07:38] hevc-decoder done: 2148 frames, 0 decoder errors
[13:07:38] sync: got 2148 frames, 2148 expected
[13:07:38] sync: framerate min 25.000 fps, max 25.000 fps, avg 25.000 fps
x264 [info]: frame I:14    Avg QP:21.26  size:325027
x264 [info]: frame P:2134  Avg QP:23.81  size: 98327
x264 [info]: mb I  I16..4: 42.9%  0.0% 57.1%
x264 [info]: mb P  I16..4:  5.1%  0.0%  1.2%  P16..4: 56.0%  7.1%  8.2%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:22.3%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 36.3% 47.0% 3.9% inter: 19.6% 60.4% 3.4%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 55% 20% 13% 12%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 12% 14% 39%  8%  6%  4%  6%  4%  6%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 66% 17% 13%  3%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:6.5% UV:5.4%
x264 [info]: kb/s:19960.89
[13:07:38] mux: track 0, 2148 frames, 214379383 bytes, 19951.55 kbps, fifo 128
[13:07:38] mux: track 1, 4029 frames, 1728499 bytes, 160.87 kbps, fifo 512
[13:07:38] Finished work at: Wed Dec 23 13:07:38 2020
[13:07:38] libhb: work result = 0

# Encode Completed ...
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rollin_eng
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Re: File size reduction

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If you want to use the file in premier try the production presets.
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Re: File size reduction

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I was trying to get Handbrake to replicate the file
Handbrake is an encoder, so it won't do that.
sydh
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Re: File size reduction

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rollin_eng wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:06 pm If you want to use the file in premier try the production presets.
None of the presets include 4K or anything that high. I'm trying not to degrade the quality.
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Re: File size reduction

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musicvid wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm
I was trying to get Handbrake to replicate the file
Handbrake is an encoder, so it won't do that.
I thought it might be possible to rewrite the file with just a tiny little change.
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Re: File size reduction

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The Production Standard/Max presets have no resolution limitation, and are specifically configured for this purpose.

What tiny change are you trying to make? An mp4 muxer may be the solution, like mp4box or ffmpeg.
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Re: File size reduction

Post by sydh »

The whole problem originated with a file being rejected by Premiere. "This type of file is not supported, or the required codec is not installed."
When I passed the file through Handbrake, it then accepted it, albeit with a massive drop in file size.
Someone on the Premiere forum had a look at the file info in MediaInfo and stated it was recoded in H265, but loading the file into Handbrake states it is H264. I'm waiting for a reply as to why they think it is H265. I don't want H265 as it is not good for editing but there is nothing on the camera that even mentions this in it's settings.
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Re: File size reduction

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handbrake says the encoder is HEVC, which is h265.
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Re: File size reduction

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HB says it’s h265.
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Re: File size reduction

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rollin_eng wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:28 pm HB says it’s h265.
HB???
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Re: File size reduction

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HandBrake, I’m just lazy.
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Re: File size reduction

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Woodstock wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:26 pm handbrake says the encoder is HEVC, which is h265.
This is making sense now. Someone on the Premiere forum has just sent me a link to read concerning HEVC and H265. It could be that HEVC is not an option for me. Can Handbrake convert H264 to H265 or am I simplifying this?
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Re: File size reduction

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rollin_eng wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:38 pm HandBrake, I’m just lazy.
I'm an idiot. :(
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Re: File size reduction

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Thanks to all you guys who helped me with this problem which is now sorted.
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Re: File size reduction

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I'm really surprised that Premier hasn't added h265 support by now, since so many devices can output it. Even Apple products.
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Re: File size reduction

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Woodstock wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:13 am I'm really surprised that Premier hasn't added h265 support by now, since so many devices can output it. Even Apple products.
It doesn't even support VFR input, which is much older than HEVC.
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Re: File size reduction

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mduell wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:15 am
Woodstock wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:13 am I'm really surprised that Premier hasn't added h265 support by now, since so many devices can output it. Even Apple products.
It doesn't even support VFR input, which is much older than HEVC.
I understand the 2020 version included H265 but I keep reading that H265 is more difficult to edit. Not sure if that is true.
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Re: File size reduction

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When you're editing video, I expect most editors have expanded the video stream from the compressed format, to work on the "raw" video. The original might be in [insert format here], but what you're editing is not. The result would then be output as [insert format here].
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