Full DVD Quality Rips
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Full DVD Quality Rips
It seems after searching for this answer that this question may be unpopular, however, I thought I'd give it a shot. I have the new Apple TV (ATV2) and want to stream rips in as close to DVD quality as possible regardless of the file size. I am currently using the Lifehacker preset "iPad and iPhone (iFrame)" that uses an average bitrate of 4096. The only thing I've added is ":vbv-maxrate=5500:vbv-bufsize=5500" at the end of the advanced option screen and "use picture size" set to "source maximum". The result is an outstanding looking rip with a fill size in the 3 to 4 GB range. So my question is this, is there a way to achieve truly full DVD quality that is playable on the Apple TV, or is this the best I can hope for?
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
I suggest starting with the High Profile preset and adding the following string to the x264 advanced options tab:-
Don't use ABR encoding, instead use CRF with RF ranges of 20-18 for SD (DVD) sources and 24-22 for HD sources.
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ref=5:b-adapt=2:direct=auto:me=umh:subq=8:rc-lookahead=50Moving to Devices.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
Truly lossless, no. Perceptively lossless, quite easily.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
Thanks for the quick reply TedJ. However, I tried your suggestion for RF=18, 16, 14, and even 12. I even used the settings I was previously using except with those same RF settings. In each case I found my original settings with ABR=4096 looked the best (at least to me... and I am extremely picky). I guess I will stick with that for now. Thanks again.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
In the end, your opinion is all that should matter to you.sakers wrote:Thanks for the quick reply TedJ. However, I tried your suggestion for RF=18, 16, 14, and even 12. I even used the settings I was previously using except with those same RF settings. In each case I found my original settings with ABR=4096 looked the best (at least to me... and I am extremely picky). I guess I will stick with that for now. Thanks again.
That said, you're likely wasting a lot of bits.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
You're not picky, you're delusional (and I mean that in the nicest possible way). Please post an encoding log from one of your 4Mbps encodes so I can see what the QPs came out as.
The LifeHacker recommendations are quite lousy (a waste of space on most encodes, but sometimes not enough for dirty grainy movies) and I second what TedJ said. I basically said the same in my A4 encoding thread.
The LifeHacker recommendations are quite lousy (a waste of space on most encodes, but sometimes not enough for dirty grainy movies) and I second what TedJ said. I basically said the same in my A4 encoding thread.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
I probably am delusional, but as long as I'm happy living in my own delusion all is good. 
I basically watch the same clip with several encodes looking for very specific artifacts. In my modified Lifehacker setting there were considerably fewer artifacts. Anyway, here is the encoding log for the 4 minute clip I used for testing. I'm anxious to hear your thoughts regarding its content.
I basically watch the same clip with several encodes looking for very specific artifacts. In my modified Lifehacker setting there were considerably fewer artifacts. Anyway, here is the encoding log for the 4 minute clip I used for testing. I'm anxious to hear your thoughts regarding its content.Code: Select all
HandBrake Activity Log for /Users/Steve/Desktop/SOR Old.m4v: 2010-11-22 17:50:36 -0500
Handbrake Version: svn3680 x86_64 (2010111901)
[17:50:35] macgui: Rip: Pending queue count is 0
[17:50:36] macgui: getNextPendingQueueIndex next pending encod index is:2
[17:50:36] macgui: scanning specifically for title: 1
[17:50:36] hb_scan: path=/dev/disk1, title_index=1
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:157: indx_parse(): error opening /dev/disk1/BDMV/index.bdmv
libbluray/bluray.c:960: nav_get_title_list(/dev/disk1) failed (0x10288ec00)
[17:50:36] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
NAME OPEN FAILED
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/Users/Steve/.dvdnav/.map'
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0000e6ec
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x0000e8c2
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0000e945
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB at 0x0000e95c
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x000108df
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x0001e4bd
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB at 0x000200b8
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x000304f3
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x002c4c1e
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x003a2e47
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x003b332b
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 7 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
[17:50:41] scan: DVD has 12 title(s)
[17:50:41] scan: scanning title 1
[17:50:41] scan: opening IFO for VTS 4
[17:50:41] scan: duration is 01:49:07 (6547176 ms)
[17:50:41] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x1018632e0
[17:50:41] scan: vts=4, ttn=1, cells=0->29, blocks=0->2705130, 2705131 blocks
[17:50:41] scan: checking audio 1
[17:50:41] scan: id=80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[17:50:41] scan: checking audio 2
[17:50:41] scan: id=81bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[17:50:41] scan: checking audio 3
[17:50:41] scan: id=82bd, lang=Francais (AC3), 3cc=fra ext=1
[17:50:41] scan: checking audio 4
[17:50:41] scan: id=83bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[17:50:41] scan: checking audio 5
[17:50:41] scan: id=84bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[17:50:41] scan: checking subtitle 1
[17:50:41] scan: id=21bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng
[17:50:41] scan: checking subtitle 2
[17:50:41] scan: id=23bd, lang=Francais, 3cc=fra
[17:50:41] scan: title 1 has 18 chapters
[17:50:41] scan: chap 1 c=0->1, b=0->135631 (135632), 333940 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 2 c=2->3, b=135632->251261 (115630), 298973 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 3 c=4->4, b=251262->381520 (130259), 310549 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 4 c=5->5, b=381521->492867 (111347), 291795 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 5 c=6->7, b=492868->613004 (120137), 263605 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 6 c=8->9, b=613005->800560 (187556), 493157 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 7 c=10->10, b=800561->932019 (131459), 311694 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 8 c=11->12, b=932020->1088214 (156195), 409030 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 9 c=13->14, b=1088215->1255215 (167001), 412872 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 10 c=15->16, b=1255216->1401754 (146539), 377779 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 11 c=17->17, b=1401755->1480487 (78733), 211364 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 12 c=18->18, b=1480488->1596031 (115544), 294700 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 13 c=19->20, b=1596032->1714932 (118901), 329879 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 14 c=21->22, b=1714933->1866843 (151911), 360907 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 15 c=23->24, b=1866844->2029452 (162609), 361619 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 16 c=25->25, b=2029453->2218601 (189149), 424902 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 17 c=26->26, b=2218602->2436220 (217619), 464076 ms
[17:50:41] scan: chap 18 c=27->29, b=2436221->2705130 (268910), 596325 ms
[17:50:41] scan: aspect = 0
[17:50:41] scan: decoding previews for title 1
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdnav: Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!
[17:50:42] scan: title angle(s) 1
[17:50:42] scan: audio 0x81bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Dolby Surround)
[17:50:42] scan: audio 0x83bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Dolby Surround)
[17:50:42] scan: audio 0x84bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Dolby Surround)
[17:50:42] scan: audio 0x80bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 English (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[17:50:42] scan: audio 0x82bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 Francais (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[17:50:45] scan: 10 previews, 720x480, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 0/0/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 32:27
[17:50:45] scan: title (0) job->width:720, job->height:400
[17:50:45] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[17:50:46] macgui: ScanDone state received from fQueueEncodeLibhb
[17:50:46] macgui: Preset: Steve's Apple TV
[17:50:46] macgui: processNewQueueEncode number of passes expected is: 2
[17:50:46] macgui: Start / Stop set to chapters
[17:50:46] macgui: prepareJob exiting
[17:50:46] 2 job(s) to process
[17:50:46] starting job
[17:50:46] sync: expecting 5091 video frames
[ac3 @ 0x1028d2200] No channel layout specified. The encoder will guess the layout, but it might be incorrect.
[17:50:46] job configuration:
[17:50:46] * source
[17:50:46] + /dev/disk1
[17:50:46] + title 1, chapter(s) 11 to 11
[17:50:46] * destination
[17:50:46] + /Users/Steve/Desktop/SOR Old.m4v
[17:50:46] + container: MPEG-4 (.mp4 and .m4v)
[17:50:46] + 64-bit formatting
[17:50:46] * video track
[17:50:46] + decoder: mpeg2
[17:50:46] + bitrate 9800 kbps
[17:50:46] + frame rate: same as source (around 23.976 fps)
[17:50:46] + strict anamorphic
[17:50:46] + storage dimensions: 720 * 480 -> 720 * 480, crop 0/0/0/0, mod 16
[17:50:46] + pixel aspect ratio: 32 / 27
[17:50:46] + display dimensions: 853 * 480
[17:50:46] + filters
[17:50:46] + Detelecine (pullup) (default settings)
[17:50:46] + Decomb (default settings)
[17:50:46] + encoder: x264
[17:50:46] + options: ref=2:bframes=2:subq=6:mixed-refs=0:weightb=0:8x8dct=0:trellis=0:vbv-maxrate=5500:vbv-bufsize=5500:ref=1:subme=2:me=dia:analyse=none:trellis=0:no-fast-pskip=0:8x8dct=0:weightb=0
[17:50:46] + bitrate: 4096 kbps, pass: 1
[17:50:46] * audio track 0
[17:50:46] + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[17:50:46] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[17:50:46] + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[17:50:46] + encoder: ca_aac
[17:50:46] + bitrate: 256 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[17:50:46] * audio track 1
[17:50:46] + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[17:50:46] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[17:50:46] + AC3 passthrough
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
[17:50:46] yadif thread started for segment 0
[17:50:46] yadif thread started for segment 1
[17:50:46] decomb thread started for segment 1
[17:50:46] encx264: min-keyint: auto (23), keyint: 240
[17:50:46] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 32/27
x264 [info]: using SAR=32/27
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.1 Cache64
[17:50:46] decomb thread started for segment 0
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 3.0
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
NAME OPEN FAILED
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/Users/Steve/.dvdnav/.map'
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0000e6ec
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x0000e8c2
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0000e945
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB at 0x0000e95c
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x000108df
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x0001e4bd
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB at 0x000200b8
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x000304f3
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x002c4c1e
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x003a2e47
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x003b332b
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 7 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdnav: Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!
[17:50:48] reader: first SCR 315637766 id 224 DTS 315674279
[17:50:48] mpeg2: "" (11) at frame 0 time 4505
[17:50:49] output track 1: ac3 in sync after skipping 1571 bytes
[17:50:49] output track 0: ac3 in sync after skipping 1571 bytes
[17:50:49] sync: first pts is 825
[17:52:26] reader: end of chapter 11 (media 11) reached at media chapter 12
[17:52:26] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[17:52:27] work: average encoding speed for job is 52.038918 fps
[17:52:28] sync: got 5078 frames, 5091 expected
[17:52:28] mpeg2 done: 5078 frames
[17:52:28] render: lost time: 3003 (1 frames)
[17:52:28] render: gained time: 3003 (4 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[17:52:28] render: average dropped frame duration: 3003
x264 [info]: frame I:43 Avg QP:12.03 size: 75001 PSNR Mean Y:50.23 U:52.02 V:52.99 Avg:50.84 Global:49.74
x264 [info]: frame P:2020 Avg QP:13.70 size: 34145 PSNR Mean Y:47.26 U:48.85 V:49.79 Avg:47.79 Global:46.43
x264 [info]: frame B:3013 Avg QP:15.56 size: 11919 PSNR Mean Y:46.59 U:48.49 V:49.86 Avg:47.25 Global:46.26
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 3.4% 27.1% 69.5%
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 15.3% 0.0% 84.7%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 18.2% 0.0% 0.0% P16..4: 79.7% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% skip: 2.1%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 3.2% 0.0% 0.0% B16..8: 57.4% 0.0% 0.0% direct:27.1% skip:12.3% L0:29.5% L1:35.8% BI:34.7%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 93.1% 91.7% 77.3% inter: 55.9% 43.0% 15.2%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 28% 16% 42% 14%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 23% 16% 19% 4% 9% 7% 6% 8% 8%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 53% 18% 22% 7%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.9%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9892562 (19.688db)
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:46.889 U:48.660 V:49.858 Avg:47.497 Global:46.344 kb/s:4084.69
[17:52:28] decomb: deinterlaced 0 | blended 0 | unfiltered 5076 | total 5076
[17:52:28] starting job
[17:52:28] sync: expecting 5078 video frames
[ac3 @ 0x1027f7400] No channel layout specified. The encoder will guess the layout, but it might be incorrect.
[17:52:28] job configuration:
[17:52:28] * source
[17:52:28] + /dev/disk1
[17:52:28] + title 1, chapter(s) 11 to 11
[17:52:28] * destination
[17:52:28] + /Users/Steve/Desktop/SOR Old.m4v
[17:52:28] + container: MPEG-4 (.mp4 and .m4v)
[17:52:28] + 64-bit formatting
[17:52:28] * video track
[17:52:28] + decoder: mpeg2
[17:52:28] + bitrate 9800 kbps
[17:52:28] + frame rate: same as source (around 23.976 fps)
[17:52:28] + strict anamorphic
[17:52:28] + storage dimensions: 720 * 480 -> 720 * 480, crop 0/0/0/0, mod 16
[17:52:28] + pixel aspect ratio: 32 / 27
[17:52:28] + display dimensions: 853 * 480
[17:52:28] + filters
[17:52:28] + Detelecine (pullup) (default settings)
[17:52:28] + Decomb (default settings)
[17:52:28] + encoder: x264
[17:52:28] + options: ref=2:bframes=2:subq=6:mixed-refs=0:weightb=0:8x8dct=0:trellis=0:vbv-maxrate=5500:vbv-bufsize=5500
[17:52:28] + bitrate: 4096 kbps, pass: 2
[17:52:28] * audio track 0
[17:52:28] + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[17:52:28] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[17:52:28] + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[17:52:28] + encoder: ca_aac
[17:52:28] + bitrate: 256 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[17:52:28] * audio track 1
[17:52:28] + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[17:52:28] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[17:52:28] + AC3 passthrough
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
[17:52:28] yadif thread started for segment 0
[17:52:28] yadif thread started for segment 1
[17:52:28] decomb thread started for segment 0
[17:52:28] decomb thread started for segment 1
[17:52:28] encx264: min-keyint: auto (23), keyint: 240
[17:52:28] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 32/27
x264 [info]: using SAR=32/27
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.1 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 3.0
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
NAME OPEN FAILED
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/Users/Steve/.dvdnav/.map'
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0000e6ec
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x0000e8c2
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0000e945
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB at 0x0000e95c
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x000108df
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x0001e4bd
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB at 0x000200b8
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x000304f3
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x002c4c1e
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x003a2e47
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x003b332b
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 7 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdnav: Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!
[17:52:30] reader: first SCR 315637766 id 224 DTS 315674279
[17:52:31] mpeg2: "" (11) at frame 0 time 4505
[17:52:31] output track 1: ac3 in sync after skipping 1571 bytes
[17:52:31] output track 0: ac3 in sync after skipping 1571 bytes
[17:55:35] reader: end of chapter 11 (media 11) reached at media chapter 12
[17:55:35] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[17:55:37] work: average encoding speed for job is 27.450768 fps
[17:55:37] sync: got 5078 frames, 5078 expected
[17:55:37] mpeg2 done: 5078 frames
[17:55:37] render: lost time: 3003 (1 frames)
[17:55:37] render: gained time: 3003 (4 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[17:55:37] render: average dropped frame duration: 3003
x264 [info]: frame I:43 Avg QP:12.96 size: 70397 PSNR Mean Y:49.32 U:52.46 V:53.37 Avg:50.21 Global:49.26
x264 [info]: frame P:2020 Avg QP:13.45 size: 35354 PSNR Mean Y:47.78 U:50.29 V:51.14 Avg:48.53 Global:47.49
x264 [info]: frame B:3013 Avg QP:15.88 size: 11121 PSNR Mean Y:46.74 U:49.32 V:50.72 Avg:47.55 Global:46.83
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 3.4% 27.1% 69.5%
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 16.6% 0.0% 83.4%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 3.6% 0.0% 16.8% P16..4: 38.4% 22.3% 16.9% 0.0% 0.0% skip: 2.0%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 3.1% 0.0% 3.3% B16..8: 42.3% 18.7% 3.4% direct:17.1% skip:12.1% L0:33.5% L1:39.7% BI:26.7%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 95.3% 96.3% 88.0% inter: 46.2% 45.3% 23.0%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 17% 11% 37% 34%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 23% 14% 20% 6% 8% 9% 6% 8% 7%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 55% 16% 20% 9%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:1.1%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 72.5% 8.6% 18.8% 0.1%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 83.1% 16.9%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 89.6% 10.4%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9903312 (20.146db)
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:47.175 U:49.729 V:50.908 Avg:47.962 Global:47.098 kb/s:4078.88
[17:55:37] mux: track 0, 5076 frames, 107949858 bytes, 4078.31 kbps, fifo 8
[17:55:37] mux: track 1, 9913 frames, 6980057 bytes, 263.70 kbps, fifo 128
[17:55:37] mux: track 2, 6608 frames, 11841536 bytes, 447.37 kbps, fifo 128
[17:55:37] decomb: deinterlaced 0 | blended 0 | unfiltered 5076 | total 5076
[17:55:37] libhb: work result = 0
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
You're using a preset with x264 settings (ref=2:bframes=2:subq=6:mixed-refs=0:weightb=0:8x8dct=0:trellis=0) designed for the various limitations and retardedness of the old Apple TV. Regardless of rate control method, you don't want to use those; at the very least just clear out the x264 advanced string.
Did you try TedJ's x264 settings when you switched rate control methods?
Did you try TedJ's x264 settings when you switched rate control methods?
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
I did try TedJ's settings. I started with High Profile and replaced the Advanced Option String with the code form his reply. And don't get me wrong, the results were good. They just weren't as good as my baseline. In particular I would look in shadowy areas or the pattern on a corduroy jacket to see if there was blurriness or graininess especially during movement. Using TedJ's settings I got really close in quality at RF=14, but the file size was also close to my baseline file size at that point. I'm going to try again using your suggestions from the A4 encoding thread you linked to earlier. Maybe that will yield closer results with better file sizes.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
My settings aren't going to produce any different results than TedJ's.
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Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
For this specific source, 4096 Kbps gives you roughly the quality of RF 13.5. So RF12 is going to look better overall - you're just seeing what you want to see.sakers wrote:I probably am delusional, but as long as I'm happy living in my own delusion all is good.
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x264 [info]: frame I:43 Avg QP:12.96 size: 70397 PSNR Mean Y:49.32 U:52.46 V:53.37 Avg:50.21 Global:49.26 x264 [info]: frame P:2020 Avg QP:13.45 size: 35354 PSNR Mean Y:47.78 U:50.29 V:51.14 Avg:48.53 Global:47.49 x264 [info]: frame B:3013 Avg QP:15.88 size: 11121 PSNR Mean Y:46.74 U:49.32 V:50.72 Avg:47.55 Global:46.83
Just try again using the same setting as above, using RF 12 instead of 2-pass, and post the log.
Actually that's the Normal preset's x264opts. They're incompatible with the ATV 1mduell wrote:You're using a preset with x264 settings (ref=2:bframes=2:subq=6:mixed-refs=0:weightb=0:8x8dct=0:trellis=0) designed for the various limitations and retardedness of the old Apple TV. Regardless of rate control method, you don't want to use those; at the very least just clear out the x264 advanced string.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
You caught me... sort of. I didn't actually fool with looking closely at the RF=12 because the file size was bigger than my baseline. So I was seeing a slight improvement with 4Mbps (RF=13.5 equivalent) over the RF=14. Since it was slight and the file sizes were close I had decided to stick with the 4Mbps. I will definitely run again with the same setting using RF=12 instead of 2-pass and post the logRodeo wrote:For this specific source, 4096 Kbps gives you roughly the quality of RF 13.5. So RF12 is going to look better overall - you're just seeing what you want to see.
mduell = I reran with iPad as the starting point and they were slightly better than starting with High Profile and using TedJ's advanced option string.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
So I reran with my baseline settings (modified Lifehacker) but used RF=12 instead of 2-pass 4Mbps. This new approach looked better, but the file size was larger. The 3.5 minute scene was 134MB versus the previous 127MB. Here is the encoding log:
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HandBrake Activity Log for /Users/Steve/Desktop/SOR RF 12.m4v: 2010-11-23 01:51:26 -0500
Handbrake Version: svn3680 x86_64 (2010111901)
[01:51:26] macgui: Rip: Pending queue count is 0
[01:51:26] macgui: getNextPendingQueueIndex next pending encod index is:0
[01:51:26] macgui: scanning specifically for title: 1
[01:51:26] hb_scan: path=/dev/disk1, title_index=1
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:157: indx_parse(): error opening /dev/disk1/BDMV/index.bdmv
libbluray/bluray.c:960: nav_get_title_list(/dev/disk1) failed (0x102a40e00)
[01:51:26] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
NAME OPEN FAILED
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/Users/Steve/.dvdnav/.map'
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0000e6ec
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x0000e8c2
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0000e945
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB at 0x0000e95c
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x000108df
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x0001e4bd
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB at 0x000200b8
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x000304f3
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x002c4c1e
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x003a2e47
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x003b332b
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 7 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
[01:51:30] scan: DVD has 12 title(s)
[01:51:30] scan: scanning title 1
[01:51:30] scan: opening IFO for VTS 4
[01:51:30] scan: duration is 01:49:07 (6547176 ms)
[01:51:30] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x101af0130
[01:51:30] scan: vts=4, ttn=1, cells=0->29, blocks=0->2705130, 2705131 blocks
[01:51:30] scan: checking audio 1
[01:51:30] scan: id=80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:51:30] scan: checking audio 2
[01:51:30] scan: id=81bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:51:30] scan: checking audio 3
[01:51:30] scan: id=82bd, lang=Francais (AC3), 3cc=fra ext=1
[01:51:30] scan: checking audio 4
[01:51:30] scan: id=83bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:51:30] scan: checking audio 5
[01:51:30] scan: id=84bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:51:30] scan: checking subtitle 1
[01:51:30] scan: id=21bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng
[01:51:30] scan: checking subtitle 2
[01:51:30] scan: id=23bd, lang=Francais, 3cc=fra
[01:51:30] scan: title 1 has 18 chapters
[01:51:30] scan: chap 1 c=0->1, b=0->135631 (135632), 333940 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 2 c=2->3, b=135632->251261 (115630), 298973 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 3 c=4->4, b=251262->381520 (130259), 310549 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 4 c=5->5, b=381521->492867 (111347), 291795 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 5 c=6->7, b=492868->613004 (120137), 263605 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 6 c=8->9, b=613005->800560 (187556), 493157 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 7 c=10->10, b=800561->932019 (131459), 311694 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 8 c=11->12, b=932020->1088214 (156195), 409030 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 9 c=13->14, b=1088215->1255215 (167001), 412872 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 10 c=15->16, b=1255216->1401754 (146539), 377779 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 11 c=17->17, b=1401755->1480487 (78733), 211364 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 12 c=18->18, b=1480488->1596031 (115544), 294700 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 13 c=19->20, b=1596032->1714932 (118901), 329879 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 14 c=21->22, b=1714933->1866843 (151911), 360907 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 15 c=23->24, b=1866844->2029452 (162609), 361619 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 16 c=25->25, b=2029453->2218601 (189149), 424902 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 17 c=26->26, b=2218602->2436220 (217619), 464076 ms
[01:51:30] scan: chap 18 c=27->29, b=2436221->2705130 (268910), 596325 ms
[01:51:30] scan: aspect = 0
[01:51:30] scan: decoding previews for title 1
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdnav: Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!
[01:51:30] scan: title angle(s) 1
[01:51:30] scan: audio 0x81bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Dolby Surround)
[01:51:31] scan: audio 0x83bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Dolby Surround)
[01:51:31] scan: audio 0x84bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Dolby Surround)
[01:51:31] scan: audio 0x80bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 English (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[01:51:31] scan: audio 0x82bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 Francais (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[01:51:32] scan: 10 previews, 720x480, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 0/0/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 32:27
[01:51:32] scan: title (0) job->width:720, job->height:400
[01:51:33] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[01:51:33] macgui: ScanDone state received from fQueueEncodeLibhb
[01:51:33] macgui: Preset: Custom
[01:51:33] macgui: processNewQueueEncode number of passes expected is: 1
[01:51:33] macgui: Start / Stop set to chapters
[01:51:33] macgui: prepareJob exiting
[01:51:33] 1 job(s) to process
[01:51:33] starting job
[01:51:33] sync: expecting 5091 video frames
[ac3 @ 0x1022cb200] No channel layout specified. The encoder will guess the layout, but it might be incorrect.
[01:51:33] job configuration:
[01:51:33] * source
[01:51:33] + /dev/disk1
[01:51:33] + title 1, chapter(s) 11 to 11
[01:51:33] * destination
[01:51:33] + /Users/Steve/Desktop/SOR RF 12.m4v
[01:51:33] + container: MPEG-4 (.mp4 and .m4v)
[01:51:33] + 64-bit formatting
[01:51:33] * video track
[01:51:33] + decoder: mpeg2
[01:51:33] + bitrate 9800 kbps
[01:51:33] + frame rate: same as source (around 23.976 fps)
[01:51:33] + strict anamorphic
[01:51:33] + storage dimensions: 720 * 480 -> 720 * 480, crop 0/0/0/0, mod 16
[01:51:33] + pixel aspect ratio: 32 / 27
[01:51:33] + display dimensions: 853 * 480
[01:51:33] + filters
[01:51:33] + Detelecine (pullup) (default settings)
[01:51:33] + Decomb (default settings)
[01:51:33] + encoder: x264
[01:51:33] + options: ref=2:bframes=2:subq=6:mixed-refs=0:weightb=0:8x8dct=0:trellis=0:vbv-maxrate=5500:vbv-bufsize=5500
[01:51:33] + quality: 12.00 (RF)
[01:51:33] * audio track 0
[01:51:33] + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[01:51:33] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[01:51:33] + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[01:51:33] + encoder: ca_aac
[01:51:33] + bitrate: 256 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[01:51:33] * audio track 1
[01:51:33] + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[01:51:33] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[01:51:33] + AC3 passthrough
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
[01:51:33] yadif thread started for segment 0
[01:51:33] yadif thread started for segment 1
[01:51:33] decomb thread started for segment 0
[01:51:33] decomb thread started for segment 1
[01:51:33] encx264: min-keyint: auto (23), keyint: 240
[01:51:33] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 32/27
[01:51:33] encx264: Encoding at constant RF 12.000000
x264 [info]: using SAR=32/27
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.1 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 3.0
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
NAME OPEN FAILED
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/Users/Steve/.dvdnav/.map'
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0000e6ec
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x0000e8c2
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0000e945
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB at 0x0000e95c
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x000108df
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x0001e4bd
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB at 0x000200b8
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x000304f3
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x002c4c1e
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x003a2e47
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x003b332b
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 7 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
libdvdnav: Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!
[01:51:35] reader: first SCR 315637766 id 224 DTS 315674279
[01:51:35] mpeg2: "" (11) at frame 0 time 4505
[01:51:35] output track 1: ac3 in sync after skipping 1571 bytes
[01:51:35] output track 0: ac3 in sync after skipping 1571 bytes
[01:51:35] sync: first pts is 825
[01:54:39] reader: end of chapter 11 (media 11) reached at media chapter 12
[01:54:39] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[01:54:42] work: average encoding speed for job is 27.459221 fps
[01:54:42] sync: got 5078 frames, 5091 expected
[01:54:42] mpeg2 done: 5078 frames
[01:54:42] render: lost time: 3003 (1 frames)
[01:54:42] render: gained time: 3003 (4 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[01:54:42] render: average dropped frame duration: 3003
x264 [info]: frame I:43 Avg QP:11.56 size: 80549 PSNR Mean Y:50.66 U:53.56 V:54.47 Avg:51.50 Global:50.53
x264 [info]: frame P:2004 Avg QP:13.14 size: 37089 PSNR Mean Y:48.01 U:50.51 V:51.33 Avg:48.75 Global:47.67
x264 [info]: frame B:3029 Avg QP:15.45 size: 12247 PSNR Mean Y:46.99 U:49.49 V:50.87 Avg:47.79 Global:47.07
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 2.9% 27.3% 69.8%
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 17.5% 0.0% 82.5%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 3.8% 0.0% 17.5% P16..4: 37.8% 22.0% 17.1% 0.0% 0.0% skip: 1.8%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 3.0% 0.0% 3.5% B16..8: 42.5% 19.4% 3.7% direct:17.5% skip:10.4% L0:33.6% L1:39.2% BI:27.2%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 96.2% 96.8% 89.3% inter: 48.6% 46.6% 25.1%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 17% 11% 38% 34%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 23% 14% 20% 6% 8% 9% 6% 8% 7%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 56% 16% 20% 9%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:1.1%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 72.7% 8.6% 18.6% 0.1%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 83.3% 16.7%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 89.4% 10.6%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9907574 (20.342db)
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:47.425 U:49.925 V:51.085 Avg:48.200 Global:47.320 kb/s:4340.69
[01:54:42] mux: track 0, 5076 frames, 114883812 bytes, 4340.29 kbps, fifo 8
[01:54:42] mux: track 1, 9914 frames, 6980904 bytes, 263.74 kbps, fifo 256
[01:54:42] mux: track 2, 6609 frames, 11843328 bytes, 447.44 kbps, fifo 256
[01:54:42] decomb: deinterlaced 0 | blended 0 | unfiltered 5076 | total 5076
[01:54:42] libhb: work result = 0
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Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
Note that at these kinds of QPs, the only way to see the difference (on a properly calibrated monitor) is to compare both encodes side by side (looking at static frames) - unless you have a supersized display with a projector and/or are sitting very close to it, you're unlikely to notice much difference when actually watching the video.sakers wrote:You caught me... sort of. I didn't actually fool with looking closely at the RF=12 because the file size was bigger than my baseline. So I was seeing a slight improvement with 4Mbps (RF=13.5 equivalent) over the RF=14. Since it was slight and the file sizes were close I had decided to stick with the 4Mbps. I will definitely run again with the same setting using RF=12 instead of 2-pass and post the logRodeo wrote:For this specific source, 4096 Kbps gives you roughly the quality of RF 13.5. So RF12 is going to look better overall - you're just seeing what you want to see.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
Agreed. I have been sitting extremely close to my TV and my monitor.Rodeo wrote:Note that at these kinds of QPs, the only way to see the difference (on a properly calibrated monitor) is to compare both encodes side by side (looking at static frames) - unless you have a supersized display with a projector and/or are sitting very close to it, you're unlikely to notice much difference when actually watching the video.
BTW, RF=13 looks better to me than my baseline with slightly smaller file sizes but much faster encodes. I may use that going forward, or even bump it up to RF=14. And yes, I am splitting hairs (or pixels) that most wouldn't at this point, so I definitely appreciate everyone's willingness to help.
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Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
Even if you're set using crazy low RFs, 4096 Kbps may still be excessive for some sources:
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HandBrake Activity Log for /Users/tim/Desktop/RF 13/Stargate - 4x16 Chapter 5.m4v: 2010-11-23 08:45:25 +0100
Handbrake Version: svn3684 x86_64 (2010112201)
[08:45:25] macgui: getNextPendingQueueIndex next pending encod index is:10
[08:45:25] macgui: incrementQueueItemDone new pending items found: 10
[08:45:25] macgui: scanning specifically for title: 2
[08:45:25] hb_scan: path=/Volumes/LaCieDisk/excluded/DVD rips/Stargate/Stargate - 4x15-4x17.dvdmedia, title_index=2
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:157: indx_parse(): error opening /Volumes/LaCieDisk/excluded/DVD rips/Stargate/Stargate - 4x15-4x17.dvdmedia/BDMV/index.bdmv
libbluray/bluray.c:960: nav_get_title_list(/Volumes/LaCieDisk/excluded/DVD rips/Stargate/Stargate - 4x15-4x17.dvdmedia) failed (0x1149ee000)
[08:45:25] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
libdvdnav: Can't read name block. Probably not a DVD-ROM device.
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/Users/tim/.dvdnav/.map'
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
[08:45:25] scan: DVD has 3 title(s)
[08:45:25] scan: scanning title 2
[08:45:25] scan: opening IFO for VTS 1
[08:45:25] scan: duration is 00:44:10 (2650000 ms)
[08:45:25] pgc_id: 2, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x11d8016b0
[08:45:25] scan: vts=1, ttn=2, cells=0->4, blocks=1543734->2315556, 771823 blocks
[08:45:25] scan: checking audio 1
[08:45:25] scan: id=80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[08:45:25] scan: title 2 has 5 chapters
[08:45:25] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=1543734->1736711 (192978), 581578 ms
[08:45:25] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=1736712->1847186 (110475), 434418 ms
[08:45:25] scan: chap 3 c=2->2, b=1847187->2135029 (287843), 1065033 ms
[08:45:25] scan: chap 4 c=3->3, b=2135030->2266666 (131637), 366578 ms
[08:45:25] scan: chap 5 c=4->4, b=2266667->2315556 (48890), 202391 ms
[08:45:25] scan: aspect = 0
[08:45:25] scan: decoding previews for title 2
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
[08:45:25] scan: title angle(s) 1
[08:45:25] scan: audio 0x80bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 English (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[08:45:25] scan: 30 previews, 720x480, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 0/0/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 32:27
[08:45:25] scan: title (0) job->width:720, job->height:400
[08:45:25] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[08:45:25] macgui: ScanDone state received from fQueueEncodeLibhb
[08:45:25] macgui: Preset: iPad RF 13
[08:45:25] macgui: processNewQueueEncode number of passes expected is: 1
[08:45:25] macgui: Start / Stop set to chapters
[08:45:25] macgui: prepareJob exiting
[08:45:25] 1 job(s) to process
[08:45:25] starting job
[08:45:25] sync: expecting 4876 video frames
[08:45:25] job configuration:
[08:45:25] * source
[08:45:25] + /Volumes/LaCieDisk/excluded/DVD rips/Stargate/Stargate - 4x15-4x17.dvdmedia
[08:45:25] + title 2, chapter(s) 5 to 5
[08:45:25] * destination
[08:45:25] + /Users/tim/Desktop/RF 13/Stargate - 4x16 Chapter 5.m4v
[08:45:25] + container: MPEG-4 (.mp4 and .m4v)
[08:45:25] + 64-bit formatting
[08:45:25] * video track
[08:45:25] + decoder: mpeg2
[08:45:25] + bitrate 9101 kbps
[08:45:25] + frame rate: 23.976 fps -> peak rate limited to 29.970 fps
[08:45:25] + loose anamorphic
[08:45:25] + storage dimensions: 720 * 480 -> 720 * 480, crop 0/0/0/0, mod 16
[08:45:25] + pixel aspect ratio: 853 / 720
[08:45:25] + display dimensions: 853 * 480
[08:45:25] + filter
[08:45:25] + Decomb (default settings)
[08:45:25] + encoder: x264
[08:45:25] + quality: 13.00 (RF)
[08:45:25] * audio track 0
[08:45:25] + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[08:45:25] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[08:45:25] + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[08:45:25] + encoder: ca_aac
[08:45:25] + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
[08:45:25] yadif thread started for segment 0
[08:45:25] yadif thread started for segment 1
libdvdnav: Can't read name block. Probably not a DVD-ROM device.
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/Users/tim/.dvdnav/.map'
[08:45:25] yadif thread started for segment 2
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
[08:45:25] decomb thread started for segment 0
[08:45:25] yadif thread started for segment 3
[08:45:25] decomb thread started for segment 1
[08:45:25] decomb thread started for segment 2
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
[08:45:25] decomb thread started for segment 3
[08:45:25] encx264: min-keyint: auto (29), keyint: 300
[08:45:25] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 853/720
[08:45:25] encx264: Encoding at constant RF 13.000000
x264 [info]: using SAR=853/720
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions:x264 [info]: 1using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
x264 [info]: profile High, level 3.0
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[08:45:25] reader: first SCR 220489415 id 224 DTS 220511523
[08:45:25] mpeg2: "" (5) at frame 0 time 9009
[08:45:25] output track 0: ac3 in sync after skipping 448 bytes
[08:45:25] sync: first pts is 8235
[08:45:35] 21.204512s: Film -> Video
[08:45:35] 21.304611s: Video -> Film
[08:45:43] 34.567867s: Film -> Video
[08:45:43] 34.601234s: Video -> Film
[08:45:44] 35.635601s: Film -> Video
[08:45:44] 35.668968s: Video -> Film
[08:45:45] 37.187145s: Film -> Video
[08:45:45] 37.404034s: Video -> Film
[08:45:47] 39.589523s: Film -> Video
[08:45:47] 39.706333s: Video -> Film
[08:45:57] 52.252190s: Film -> Video
[08:45:57] 52.285557s: Video -> Film
[08:45:59] 54.621235s: Film -> Video
[08:45:59] 54.721333s: Video -> Film
[08:45:59] 55.739010s: Film -> Video
[08:45:59] 55.805744s: Video -> Film
[08:46:00] 57.340588s: Film -> Video
[08:46:00] 57.457401s: Video -> Film
[08:46:06] 70.036636s: Film -> Video
[08:46:06] 70.070000s: Video -> Film
[08:46:12] 80.897476s: Film -> Video
[08:46:12] 81.081001s: Video -> Film
[08:46:13] 85.418633s: Film -> Video
[08:46:13] 85.452034s: Video -> Film
[08:46:20] 98.398300s: Film -> Video
[08:46:20] 98.465034s: Video -> Film
[08:46:24] 103.837067s: Film -> Video
[08:46:24] 103.870430s: Video -> Film
[08:46:29] 111.411285s: Film -> Video
[08:46:29] 111.544769s: Video -> Film
[08:46:33] 120.603798s: Film -> Video
[08:46:33] 120.720596s: Video -> Film
[08:46:34] 121.254463s: Film -> Video
[08:46:34] 121.287834s: Video -> Film
[08:46:36] 127.243774s: Film -> Video
[08:46:37] 128.061264s: Video -> Film
[08:46:46] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[08:46:46] work: average encoding speed for job is 58.061047 fps
[08:46:47] sync: got 4690 frames, 4876 expected
[08:46:47] mpeg2 done: 4690 frames
[08:46:47] render: 4689 frames output, 0 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
[08:46:47] render: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[08:46:47] render: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
x264 [info]: frame I:52 Avg QP:10.62 size: 44425 PSNR Mean Y:55.17 U:68.21 V:68.88 Avg:56.20 Global:54.41
x264 [info]: frame P:1570 Avg QP:13.78 size: 25122 PSNR Mean Y:52.05 U:64.20 V:64.88 Avg:52.94 Global:51.19
x264 [info]: frame B:3067 Avg QP:16.28 size: 7669 PSNR Mean Y:51.44 U:67.61 V:68.25 Avg:52.51 Global:49.97
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 3.4% 20.6% 13.8% 62.2%
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 27.6% 62.0% 10.4%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 0.9% 25.1% 1.2% P16..4: 18.7% 17.8% 12.0% 0.0% 0.0% skip:24.2%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.2% 5.6% 0.1% B16..8: 28.9% 11.3% 3.8% direct: 7.0% skip:43.1% L0:38.8% L1:35.8% BI:25.4%
x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:90.9% inter:75.8%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 90.2% 77.5% 55.0% inter: 35.6% 22.8% 5.0%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 60% 9% 9% 22%
x264 [info]: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 26% 11% 41% 3% 3% 4% 3% 5% 4%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 24% 14% 16% 6% 9% 9% 7% 8% 7%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 59% 14% 22% 6%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:11.8% UV:4.3%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 54.3% 15.3% 20.9% 9.1% 0.3%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 80.4% 17.6% 2.0%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 92.9% 7.1%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9943377 (22.470db)
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:51.683 U:66.459 V:67.112 Avg:52.698 Global:50.381 kb/s:2575.53
[08:46:47] mux: track 0, 4689 frames, 65269361 bytes, 2574.70 kbps, fifo 8
[08:46:47] mux: track 1, 9506 frames, 4121272 bytes, 162.57 kbps, fifo 256
[08:46:47] decomb: deinterlaced 34 | blended 19 | unfiltered 4636 | total 4689
[08:46:47] libhb: work result = 0Code: Select all
[08:45:25] + encoder: x264
[08:45:25] + quality: 13.00 (RF)
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[08:46:47] mux: track 0, 4689 frames, 65269361 bytes, 2574.70 kbps, fifo 8Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
Excellent point. I didn't think of that. Basically I've been optimizing my settings for chapter 11 of School of Rock, which is likely not the best approach for all chapters of all movies.Rodeo wrote:Even if you're set using crazy low RFs, 4096 Kbps may still be excessive for some sources:
Regarding crazy low RFs, I have to say I'm not sure why what I'm after seems to be so unpopular. I'd keep all my movies in ISO form if I could. What I really want is true DVD quality not near or perceptively near or virtually DVD quality. When I see a wall in the background of a scene that looks as though its moving because of pixelation it distracts me from the main action. So low RFs seems to be the way to go at least for me. And thanks again for your help.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
Please stop using those [censored] x264 settings. They're quite limited and totally unnecessary for tv2.sakers wrote:[01:51:33] + options: ref=2:bframes=2:subq=6:mixed-refs=0:weightb=0:8x8dct=0:trellis=0:vbv-maxrate=5500:vbv-bufsize=5500[/code]
So why not buy a better media player and do that?sakers wrote:Regarding crazy low RFs, I have to say I'm not sure why what I'm after seems to be so unpopular. I'd keep all my movies in ISO form if I could. What I really want is true DVD quality not near or perceptively near or virtually DVD quality. When I see a wall in the background of a scene that looks as though its moving because of pixelation it distracts me from the main action.
Keeping full DVD quality isn't unpopular; I do it myself. I keep the [censored] DVD.
Re: Full DVD Quality Rips
Agreed. I have switched to using the iPad preset as you referenced in your "A4 encoding" thread (thanks for pointing me to it!). I'll just be using a lower RF value than you suggest.mduell wrote:Please stop using those [censored] x264 settings. They're quite limited and totally unnecessary for tv2.
I of course keep the DVD and an ISO copy. My point was I'm trying to see if I can create a tv2 playable version that matches that quality. I also happen to think the tv2 IS the better media player (lack of ISO or MKV support aside) or I wouldn't have purchased it. Using it makes me happy, which may be why my replies don't need to be censored.mduell wrote:So why not buy a better media player and do that?
Keeping full DVD quality isn't unpopular; I do it myself. I keep the [censored] DVD.