iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

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dynaflash
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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by dynaflash » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:03 pm

looks that way.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by rhester » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:16 pm

The strange thing to me is that my understanding is that the Touch 2G has a 133MHz bus (vs. 100MHz on the iPhone/Touch 1G) and a faster-clocked CPU (667 MHz vs. 533), with a performance profile very close to that of the 3GS. I can't understand why Apple would "bless" the 3GS and not the Touch 2G unless there is some other "secret sauce" in the 3GS with some sort of higher-end H.264 hardware-assist that was needed for b-frames (and CABAC?). And is the Touch 3G (the new 64GB model) the same CPU as the 2G or is it the 3GS hardware "unadvertised"?

Speaking of...anyone tried CABAC on the 3GS? =)

Lord, this is confusing. *laughs*

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by dynaflash » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:35 pm

well, as far as the iPod touch 2G, here is what I tried and got zilch:
Universal preset with one change for each encode:
1. bframes=1
2. cabac=1

Than in the interest of trying to catch apple with a "gotcha" I tried each above and added the old iPod atom just for kicks. No go either.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by s55 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:47 pm

@rhester

1st generation: ARM11 620 MHz (underclocked to 400 MHz, then 412 MHz)

2nd generation: ARM11 620 MHz (underclocked to 533MHz)[1],

with internal ARM7 core for Jazelle acceleration

3rd generation: ARM Cortex-A8 833 MHz (underclocked to 600MHz)

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by rhester » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:03 pm

Ah, very good data. Sounds all-but-certain then that this is definitely exclusive to the 3GS.

Is it safe to say the iPod Touch 64GB is ARM11 as well?

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by rhester » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:04 pm

LONG overdue update: http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?p=21364

Any data on CABAC and weighted prediction on the 3GS would be much appreciated, as well as *anything* on the new Nano.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by s55 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:06 pm

If wikipeida is correct, all the 3rd gen iPod touches have the Cortex chip, which, in theory means it can also playback bframes etc. I'm not sure the 8GB model is actually a 3rd gen unit though.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by Starhawk » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:20 pm

rhester wrote: Speaking of...anyone tried CABAC on the 3GS? =)

Lord, this is confusing. *laughs*

Rodney
Yes, CABAC works on my 3GS. I successfully synced this encode I did back in July with SVN 2691 using these settings:

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ref=3:mixed-refs=1:bframes=3:me=umh:subq=7:b-adapt=2:8x8dct=1:direct=auto:analyse=all

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HandBrake Activity Log for /Volumes/Drobo 1/Video Encoding/Handbrake Encodes/ANCHORMAN_Movie-Only.m4v: 2009-07-21 00:59:59 -0400
Handbrake Version: svn2691 i386 (2009071301)

[00:59:59] macgui: Rip: Pending queue count is 0
[00:59:59] macgui: Rip: No pending jobs, so sending this one to doAddToQueue
[00:59:59] macgui: Rip: Going right to performNewQueueScan
[00:59:59] macgui: scanning specifically for title: 1
[00:59:59] macgui: performNewQueueScan currentQueueEncodeIndex is: 0
[00:59:59] hb_scan: path=/Volumes/Drobo 1/Video Encoding/Feature Extractions/ANCHORMAN_Movie-Only, title_index=1
[00:59:59] thread b0324000 started ("scan")
[00:59:59] scan: trying to open with libdvdread
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
[00:59:59] scan: DVD has 1 title(s)
[00:59:59] scan: scanning title 1
[00:59:59] scan: opening IFO for VTS 1
[00:59:59] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x1624bcc0
[00:59:59] scan: vts=1, ttn=1, cells=0->20, blocks=0->2356256, 2356257 blocks
[00:59:59] scan: duration is 01:37:19 (5839176 ms)
[00:59:59] scan: checking audio 1
[00:59:59] scan: id=80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[00:59:59] scan: checking audio 2
[00:59:59] scan: id=81bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[00:59:59] scan: checking audio 3
[00:59:59] scan: id=82bd, lang=Francais (AC3), 3cc=fra ext=0
[00:59:59] scan: checking audio 4
[00:59:59] scan: id=83bd, lang=English (AC3) (Director's Commentary 1), 3cc=eng ext=3
[00:59:59] scan: checking subtitle 1
[00:59:59] scan: id=20bd, lang=English (Closed Caption), 3cc=eng
[00:59:59] scan: checking subtitle 2
[00:59:59] scan: id=21bd, lang=Francais, 3cc=fra
[00:59:59] scan: checking subtitle 3
[00:59:59] scan: id=22bd, lang=Espanol, 3cc=spa
[00:59:59] scan: checking subtitle 4
[00:59:59] scan: id=23bd, lang=English (Director's Commentary), 3cc=eng
[00:59:59] scan: checking subtitle 5
[00:59:59] scan: id=24bd, lang=Francais (Director's Commentary), 3cc=fra
[00:59:59] scan: checking subtitle 6
[00:59:59] scan: id=25bd, lang=Espanol (Director's Commentary), 3cc=spa
[00:59:59] scan: checking subtitle 7
[00:59:59] scan: id=26bd, lang=Francais, 3cc=fra
[00:59:59] scan: title 1 has 21 chapters
[00:59:59] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->83087 (83088), 221245 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=83088->137115 (54028), 127351 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 3 c=2->2, b=137116->263418 (126303), 332521 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 4 c=3->3, b=263419->302428 (39010), 98118 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 5 c=4->4, b=302429->410308 (107880), 271500 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 6 c=5->5, b=410309->493228 (82920), 180332 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 7 c=6->6, b=493229->604918 (111690), 276472 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 8 c=7->7, b=604919->753982 (149064), 363589 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 9 c=8->8, b=753983->892451 (138469), 321532 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 10 c=9->9, b=892452->950100 (57649), 140331 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 11 c=10->10, b=950101->1057912 (107812), 283347 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 12 c=11->11, b=1057913->1170013 (112101), 293478 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 13 c=12->12, b=1170014->1261761 (91748), 223447 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 14 c=13->13, b=1261762->1461369 (199608), 501709 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 15 c=14->14, b=1461370->1624048 (162679), 368618 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 16 c=15->15, b=1624049->1707415 (83367), 189362 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 17 c=16->16, b=1707416->1800181 (92766), 218241 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 18 c=17->17, b=1800182->2037844 (237663), 589673 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 19 c=18->18, b=2037845->2261511 (223667), 552798 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 20 c=19->19, b=2261512->2356069 (94558), 285326 ms
[00:59:59] scan: chap 21 c=20->20, b=2356070->2356256 (187), 176 ms
[00:59:59] scan: aspect = 0
[00:59:59] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[00:59:59] scan: title angle(s) 1
[00:59:59] scan: preview 1
[00:59:59] scan: audio 0x81bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Dolby Surround)
[00:59:59] scan: audio 0x83bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Director's Commentary 1) (2.0 ch)
[00:59:59] scan: audio 0x80bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 English (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[00:59:59] scan: audio 0x82bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=384000 Francais (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[00:59:59] scan: preview 2
[00:59:59] scan: preview 3
[01:00:00] scan: preview 4
[01:00:00] scan: preview 5
[01:00:00] scan: preview 6
[01:00:00] Title's mostly NTSC Film, setting fps to 23.976
[01:00:00] scan: preview 7
[01:00:00] scan: preview 8
[01:00:00] scan: preview 9
[01:00:00] scan: preview 10
[01:00:00] scan: 10 previews, 720x480, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 6/14/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 32:27
[01:00:00] scan: title (0) job->width:720, job->height:384
[01:00:00] thread b0324000 exited ("scan")
[01:00:00] thread b0324000 joined ("scan")
[01:00:00] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[01:00:00] macgui: ScanDone state received from fQueueEncodeLibhb
[01:00:00] macgui: Preset: DVD Movies
[01:00:00] macgui: processNewQueueEncode number of passes expected is: 1
[01:00:00] macgui: prepareJob audiotrack 2 is: 0
[01:00:00] macgui: prepareJob exiting
[01:00:00] thread b0755000 started ("work")
[01:00:00] 1 job(s) to process
[01:00:00] starting job
[01:00:00] job configuration:
[01:00:00]  * source
[01:00:00]    + /Volumes/Drobo 1/Video Encoding/Feature Extractions/ANCHORMAN_Movie-Only
[01:00:00]    + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 21
[01:00:00]  * destination
[01:00:00]    + /Volumes/Drobo 1/Video Encoding/Handbrake Encodes/ANCHORMAN_Movie-Only.m4v
[01:00:00]    + container: MPEG-4 (.mp4 and .m4v)
[01:00:00]      + chapter markers
[01:00:00]  * video track
[01:00:00]    + decoder: mpeg2
[01:00:00]      + bitrate 9800 kbps
[01:00:00]    + frame rate: same as source (around 23.976 fps)
[01:00:00]    + loose anamorphic
[01:00:00]      + modulus: 0
[01:00:00]      + storage dimensions: 720 * 480 -> 720 * 464, crop 6/14/0/0
[01:00:00]      + pixel aspect ratio: 43 / 36
[01:00:00]      + display dimensions: 860 * 464
[01:00:00]    + filters
[01:00:00]      + Detelecine (pullup) (default settings)
[01:00:00]      + Decomb (default settings)
[01:00:00]    + encoder: x264
[01:00:00]      + options: ref=3:mixed-refs=1:bframes=3:me=umh:subq=7:b-adapt=2:8x8dct=1:direct=auto:analyse=all
[01:00:00]      + quality: 19.25 (RF)
[01:00:00]  * audio track 0
[01:00:00]    + decoder: English (AC3) (Dolby Surround) (track 2, id 81bd)
[01:00:00]      + bitrate: 192 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[01:00:00]    + mixdown: Stereo
[01:00:00]    + encoder: ca_aac
[01:00:00]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[01:00:00]  * audio track 1
[01:00:00]    + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[01:00:00]      + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[01:00:00]    + AC3 passthrough
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
[01:00:00] thread b07e0000 started ("reader")
[01:00:00] thread b0a61000 started ("MPEG-2 decoder (libmpeg2)")
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
[01:00:00] thread b0b0b000 started ("yadif_filter_segment")
[01:00:00] yadif thread started for segment 0
[01:00:00] thread b0b8d000 started ("yadif_filter_segment")
[01:00:00] yadif thread started for segment 1
[01:00:00] thread b0c0f000 started ("decomb_filter_segment")
[01:00:00] decomb thread started for segment 0
[01:00:00] thread b0c91000 started ("decomb_filter_segment")
[01:00:00] decomb thread started for segment 1
[01:00:00] thread b0d13000 started ("Renderer")
[01:00:00] encx264: keyint-min: 24, keyint-max: 240
[01:00:00] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 43/36
[01:00:00] encx264: Encoding at constant RF 19.250000
[01:00:00] encx264: opening libx264 (pass 0)
x264 [info]: using SAR=43/36
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile High, level 3.0
[01:00:00] thread b0d95000 started ("H.264/AVC encoder (libx264)")
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[01:00:00] thread b0e17000 started ("AC3 decoder")
[01:00:00] reader: first SCR 146
[01:00:01] mpeg2: "Chapter  1" (1) at frame 0 time 3003
[01:00:01] thread b0e99000 started ("AAC encoder (Apple)")
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[01:00:01] thread b0f1b000 started ("AC3 decoder")
[01:00:01] thread b0f9d000 started ("muxer")
[01:00:01] sync: expecting 140024 video frames
[ac3 @ 0x1d72400]No channel layout specified. The encoder will guess the layout, but it might be incorrect.
[01:00:01] sync: first pts is 3003
[01:00:01] muxmp4: track 0, chunk duration 15015
[01:00:01] muxmp4: track 1, chunk duration 8008
[01:00:01] muxmp4: track 2, chunk duration 8008
[01:00:01] muxmp4: disabled extra audio track 2
[01:00:25] macgui: trying to open video_ts folder (parent directory chosen)
[01:00:25] macgui: trying to open a physical dvd at: /Volumes/NEXTGEN2
[01:00:25] macgui: VLC app found for decrypting physical dvd
[01:00:25] hb_scan: path=/dev/disk1, title_index=0
[01:00:25] scan: trying to open with libdvdread
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
[01:00:25] thread b12a9000 started ("scan")
[01:00:30] scan: DVD has 5 title(s)
[01:00:30] scan: scanning title 1
[01:00:30] scan: opening IFO for VTS 2
[01:00:30] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x19375640
[01:00:30] scan: vts=2, ttn=1, cells=0->12, blocks=0->1103342, 1103343 blocks
[01:00:30] scan: duration is 00:45:33 (2733266 ms)
[01:00:30] scan: checking audio 1
[01:00:30] scan: id=80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:00:30] scan: checking audio 2
[01:00:30] scan: id=81bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:00:30] scan: checking subtitle 1
[01:00:30] scan: id=20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng
[01:00:30] scan: title 1 has 8 chapters
[01:00:30] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->126844 (126845), 337932 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 2 c=1->2, b=126845->290621 (163777), 427365 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 3 c=3->4, b=290622->421654 (131033), 355144 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 4 c=5->5, b=421655->497480 (75826), 194511 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 5 c=6->6, b=497481->595368 (97888), 248686 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 6 c=7->7, b=595369->812614 (217246), 499214 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 7 c=8->8, b=812615->946414 (133800), 287688 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 8 c=9->12, b=946415->1103342 (156928), 382722 ms
[01:00:30] scan: aspect = 0
[01:00:30] scan: scanning title 2
[01:00:30] scan: opening IFO for VTS 2
[01:00:30] pgc_id: 3, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x1b0b5750
[01:00:30] scan: vts=2, ttn=3, cells=0->10, blocks=2024011->3050274, 1026264 blocks
[01:00:30] scan: duration is 00:45:33 (2733266 ms)
[01:00:30] scan: checking audio 1
[01:00:30] scan: id=80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:00:30] scan: checking audio 2
[01:00:30] scan: id=81bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:00:30] scan: checking subtitle 1
[01:00:30] scan: id=20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng
[01:00:30] scan: title 2 has 8 chapters
[01:00:30] scan: chap 1 c=0->1, b=2024011->2156518 (132508), 317896 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 2 c=2->2, b=2156519->2321151 (164633), 461579 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 3 c=3->3, b=2321152->2480113 (158962), 449732 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 4 c=4->4, b=2480114->2645630 (165517), 472869 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 5 c=5->5, b=2645631->2830044 (184414), 405723 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 6 c=6->7, b=2830045->2876803 (46759), 131518 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 7 c=8->8, b=2876804->2984214 (107411), 304580 ms
[01:00:30] scan: chap 8 c=9->10, b=2984215->3050274 (66060), 189366 ms
[01:00:30] scan: aspect = 0
[01:00:30] scan: scanning title 3
[01:00:30] scan: opening IFO for VTS 2
[01:00:31] pgc_id: 2, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x1b0b7c00
[01:00:31] scan: vts=2, ttn=2, cells=0->7, blocks=1103343->2024010, 920668 blocks
[01:00:31] scan: duration is 00:45:31 (2731266 ms)
[01:00:31] scan: checking audio 1
[01:00:31] scan: id=80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:00:31] scan: checking audio 2
[01:00:31] scan: id=81bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:00:31] scan: checking subtitle 1
[01:00:31] scan: id=20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng
[01:00:31] scan: title 3 has 8 chapters
[01:00:31] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=1103343->1230195 (126853), 356750 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=1230196->1385756 (155561), 441851 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 3 c=2->2, b=1385757->1518157 (132401), 416819 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 4 c=3->3, b=1518158->1586860 (68703), 214322 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 5 c=4->4, b=1586861->1660240 (73380), 241500 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 6 c=5->5, b=1660241->1802608 (142368), 436588 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 7 c=6->6, b=1802609->1895648 (93040), 256634 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 8 c=7->7, b=1895649->2024010 (128362), 366797 ms
[01:00:31] scan: aspect = 0
[01:00:31] scan: scanning title 4
[01:00:31] scan: opening IFO for VTS 2
[01:00:31] pgc_id: 4, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x1b0bc5e0
[01:00:31] scan: vts=2, ttn=4, cells=0->13, blocks=3050275->4073026, 1022752 blocks
[01:00:31] scan: duration is 00:45:31 (2731120 ms)
[01:00:31] scan: checking audio 1
[01:00:31] scan: id=80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:00:31] scan: checking audio 2
[01:00:31] scan: id=81bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[01:00:31] scan: checking subtitle 1
[01:00:31] scan: id=20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng
[01:00:31] scan: title 4 has 8 chapters
[01:00:31] scan: chap 1 c=0->1, b=3050275->3144946 (94672), 252644 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 2 c=2->2, b=3144947->3265676 (120730), 316895 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 3 c=3->4, b=3265677->3434373 (168697), 473462 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 4 c=5->6, b=3434374->3583780 (149407), 402187 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 5 c=7->8, b=3583781->3696127 (112347), 303176 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 6 c=9->10, b=3696128->3843839 (147712), 400173 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 7 c=11->11, b=3843840->3928959 (85120), 210591 ms
[01:00:31] scan: chap 8 c=12->13, b=3928960->4073026 (144067), 371989 ms
[01:00:31] scan: aspect = 0
[01:00:31] scan: scanning title 5
[01:00:31] scan: opening IFO for VTS 1
[01:00:31] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x1b0b9ed0
[01:00:31] scan: vts=1, ttn=1, cells=0->0, blocks=0->4, 5 blocks
[01:00:31] scan: duration is 00:00:00 (176 ms)
[01:00:31] scan: ignoring title (too short)
[01:00:31] scan: decoding previews for title 1

libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient

libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x00000125
libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x000001ca
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0000023b
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB at 0x0000028a
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x00007735
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 2 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
[01:00:32] scan: title angle(s) 1
[01:00:32] scan: preview 1
[01:00:32] scan: audio 0x81bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (2.0 ch)
[01:00:32] scan: audio 0x80bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 English (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[01:00:32] scan: preview 2
[01:00:33] scan: preview 3
[01:00:33] scan: preview 4
[01:00:34] scan: preview 5
[01:00:34] scan: preview 6
[01:00:34] scan: preview 7
[01:00:35] scan: preview 8
[01:00:36] scan: preview 9
[01:00:36] Title's mostly NTSC Film, setting fps to 23.976
[01:00:36] scan: preview 10
[01:00:37] scan: 10 previews, 720x480, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 0/0/8/6, aspect 4:3, PAR 8:9
[01:00:37] scan: decoding previews for title 2
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[01:00:40] Title's mostly NTSC Film, setting fps to 23.976
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[01:00:44] Title's mostly NTSC Film, setting fps to 23.976
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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by rhester » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:22 pm

Starhawk wrote:Yes, CABAC works on my 3GS.
Nice!

Dyna, the new iPhone may be a better player than Apple TV. *LOL*

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by dynaflash » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:25 pm

rhester wrote:Dyna, the new iPhone may be a better player than Apple TV. *LOL*
No kidding, add hdmi and toslink out and you would almost be right.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by nightstrm » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:58 pm

I only wish it allowed HD resolutions to be transferred to the phone... then I wouldn't have to encode two files from my Bluray/HDDVD rips anymore.

This is definitely interesting news, and I just might start re-encoding to take advantage of some of the advanced options that weren't available before.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by nightstrm » Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:53 pm

rhester wrote: And is the Touch 3G (the new 64GB model) the same CPU as the 2G or is it the 3GS hardware "unadvertised"?

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I read somewhere (need to find the source) that the 32GB and 64GB models have the same CPU as the 3GS.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by rhester » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:07 pm

nightstrm wrote:I read somewhere (need to find the source) that the 32GB and 64GB models have the same CPU as the 3GS.
I am assuming that applies to 2G - my 32GB 1G definitely has the older processor (I checked with SysInfo).

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by matthewer » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:15 pm

So back to my original question: Would you use the universal preset or the Apple TV preset now that we have a choice?

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by dynaflash » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:20 pm

matthewer wrote:So back to my original question: Would you use the universal preset or the Apple TV preset now that we have a choice?
Oh, that's easy. Given the choice definitely use the AppleTV preset. Same or better quality at a (sometimes much) lower file size == more movies synced. Imo, its a no brainer.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by s55 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:34 pm

Question is, will this have a dramatic effect on battery life if it's requiring more processor power to decode? Given the iPhones/Touch poor battery life as is, I think it would be nice if someone did some tests in terms of battery life.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by nightstrm » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:35 pm

rhester wrote:
nightstrm wrote:I read somewhere (need to find the source) that the 32GB and 64GB models have the same CPU as the 3GS.
I am assuming that applies to 2G - my 32GB 1G definitely has the older processor (I checked with SysInfo).

Rodney
I was specifically talking about the new 3G iPod Touch just released. From the ifixit.com teardown, the new iPod Touch actually has a slightly different CPU than the 3GS:
339S0075 ARM
Is this a new, faster processor? The processor on the last iPod touch (2nd gen) was labelled 339S0048ARM. The processor in the iPhone 3GS is marked 339S0073ARM.
s55 wrote:Question is, will this have a dramatic effect on battery life if it's requiring more processor power to decode? Given the iPhones/Touch poor battery life as is, I think it would be nice if someone did some tests in terms of battery life.
I didn't think about that...

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by dynaflash » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:43 pm

s55 wrote:Question is, will this have a dramatic effect on battery life if it's requiring more processor power to decode? Given the iPhones/Touch poor battery life as is, I think it would be nice if someone did some tests in terms of battery life.
True, but here was my thinking:

If I am going to use it for portable use, I would use the specific iPhone preset anyway. If I am using it to output to a tv from my iPod, then I have the component adapter which means I have ac power anyway.

For portability obviously use the specific iPhone preset in any case.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by REBELinBLUE » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:40 pm

Yeah I wouldn't really use it to watch the videos specifically on the iPhone as such.

But when I go away I often sync videos to my iPhone either to watch on the train, or to watch on TV (I carry the video cable with me) but as most of my videos have been encoded for the ATV I haven't been able to do this much. So all in all this is a nice change for me :)

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by hawkman » Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:34 am

Did a few tests with a friend's 3GS (the swine). Hardly exhaustive, but maybe it'll help.

Test scene was chapter 18 of the PAL Spiderman DVD, a relatively high-motion scene. Started from the AppleTV preset (so it's anamorphic SD) in his Hanbrake (svn2773) and bumped a few things up. Basically, CABAC, weightb, and b-pyramid all seem to work great.

Changes made: ref=5:bframes=6:weightb=1:direct=auto:b-pyramid=1:cabac=1
Result: Syncs and plays fine. Smooth as butter, and seeking is fast.

We hit a wall at 6 reference frames, with iTunes refusing to sync it. If there's anything anyone wants to know, we can probably do a few more tests.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by CiiD » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:05 am

Hey, I was able to encode with these settings and successfully transfer to iPhone 3GS. Played smoothly and quality looked great.

Starting from Animation Preset,
Constant Quality was set to 62
ref=5:mixed-refs=1:bframes=6:weightb=1:direct=auto:b-pyramid=1:me=umh:analyse=all:8x8dct=1:trellis=1:nr=150:no-fast-pskip=1:deblock=2,2:psy-rd=1,1:subq=9:no-dct-decimate=1

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by Rodeo » Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:29 pm

I haven't tested it yet, but if the 3GS can indeed play movies with weighted b-frames smoothly, then it's more capable than QuickTime 7 (well, up to a point) :-)

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by Ritsuka » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:31 pm

Fortunately there isn't even a bit of QuickTime on the iPhone :wink:

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by hawkman » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:40 pm

QuickTime is fine for me? Maybe the gpu playback isn't affected by the same issues? Or I have low standards.

Anyone have some suggestions for legal HD source material, and/or settings to test it with? Realise iTunes won't sync it, but I'm sure it'll play from doc sharing apps.

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Re: iPhone can now use Apple TV Preset

Post by Rodeo » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:57 pm

Ritsuka wrote:Fortunately there isn't even a bit of QuickTime on the iPhone :wink:
Well, isn't QuickTime X (according to Apple's marketing back when Snow Leopard was first previewed) supposedly using some technology derived from the iPhone OS? Of course QuickTime 7 and X aren't quite the same app when it comes to H.264 playback…

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