Can Handbrake work with Interlaced files?

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finbo
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Can Handbrake work with Interlaced files?

Post by finbo »

Description of problem or question:

I'm in the UK and broadcasters here still work with interlaced files for news, sport and docs, etc
I'm new to Handbrake and am looking at it as an alternative to Compressor.
But when I trying to compress 50i files, they always come out showing as Progressive despite using the 'same as source' video setting and/or the 'Pal 25' setting.

Am I doing something wrong or is it the case Handbrake doesn't work with 50i?

Is this why there are no 50i or 25p settings in any of the General presets - none of these are above 30, etc?


Steps to reproduce the problem (If Applicable):




HandBrake version (e.g., 1.0.0):

1.3.3


Operating system and version (e.g., Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, macOS 10.13 High Sierra, Windows 10 Creators Update):

MacBook Pro - Mac OS Catalina 10.15.7


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Please replace this text with the contents of your log file between the two code tags - OR -  provide a pastebin URL in place of these 3 lines.
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[12:41:56] macgui: Handbrake Version: 1.3.3 (2020061300)
[12:41:56] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[12:41:56] Compile-time hardening features are enabled
[12:41:56] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[12:52:45] macgui: ScanCore scanning titles with a duration of 10 seconds or more
[12:52:45] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4850HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz
[12:52:45]  - Intel microarchitecture Haswell
[12:52:45]  - logical processor count: 8
[12:52:45] hb_scan: path=/Users/kevinrlangdon/Desktop/Sky News H264.mov, title_index=0
udfread ERROR: ECMA 167 Volume Recognition failed
disc.c:323: failed opening UDF image /Users/kevinrlangdon/Desktop/Sky News H264.mov
disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV/index.bdmv
disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV/BACKUP/index.bdmv
bluray.c:2585: nav_get_title_list(/Users/kevinrlangdon/Desktop/Sky News H264.mov/) failed
[12:52:45] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 6.0.1
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[12:52:45] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '/Users/kevinrlangdon/Desktop/Sky News H264.mov':
  Metadata:
    major_brand     : qt  
    minor_version   : 0
    compatible_brands: qt  
    creation_time   : 2020-10-13T11:27:37.000000Z
    com.apple.quicktime.keywords: KRL Edits
    com.apple.quicktime.description: This video is about Sky News
    com.apple.quicktime.author: KEVIN R LANGDON
    com.apple.quicktime.displayname: Sky News
    com.apple.quicktime.title: Sky News
  Duration: 00:03:11.64, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 15711 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(und): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, mono, fltp, 64 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2020-10-13T11:27:37.000000Z
      handler_name    : Core Media Audio
    Stream #0:1(und): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, mono, fltp, 33 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2020-10-13T11:27:37.000000Z
      handler_name    : Core Media Audio
    Stream #0:2(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top coded first (swapped)), 1920x1080 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 15539 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 2500 tbn, 50 tbc (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2020-10-13T11:27:37.000000Z
      handler_name    : Core Media Video
      encoder         : H.264
      timecode        : 00:00:00:00
    Stream #0:3(und): Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74) (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2020-10-13T11:27:37.000000Z
      handler_name    : Core Media Time Code
      timecode        : 00:00:00:00
[12:52:45] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[12:52:45] scan: audio 0x0: aac, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=64963 Unknown (AAC LC) (1.0 ch) (64 kbps)
[12:52:45] scan: audio 0x1: aac, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=33691 Unknown (AAC LC) (1.0 ch) (33 kbps)
[12:52:46] scan: 10 previews, 1920x1080, 25.000 fps, autocrop = 0/0/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[12:52:46] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[12:52:46] macgui: ScanCore scan done

Woodstock
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Re: Can Handbrake work with Interlaced files?

Post by Woodstock »

Handbrake can work with interlaced sources, attempting to remove the interlacing, with a few different methods available.

The output will be progressive, though. If you NEED interlaced output, you would need a different tool.
finbo
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Re: Can Handbrake work with Interlaced files?

Post by finbo »

Thanks, that answers that then - I would still need interlaced output but a smaller file size.

Is there a reason Handbrake doesn't offer interlaced as an option?
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Re: Can Handbrake work with Interlaced files?

Post by musicvid »

Is there a reason Handbrake doesn't offer interlaced as an option?
Because all streaming is progressive, and no, you do not want interlaced output for any reason I know of. Davinci Resolve is free.
finbo
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Re: Can Handbrake work with Interlaced files?

Post by finbo »

As I say at the top of my post, broadcasters in the UK still want interlaced output.

There are still many places around the world that also require this, but it is for broadcast tv and not streaming, so that's where the difference lies.
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Re: Can Handbrake work with Interlaced files?

Post by musicvid »

The output will be progressive, though. If you NEED interlaced output, you would need a different tool.
Davinci Resolve is free.
I hoped that would clear it up for you.

However, 99% of video shot and submitted for broadcast is Progressive. It has been this way for several years. The broadcaster merely flags it as interlaced; it is nothing you need to do yourself unless a particular outlet tells you specifically to do so.
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Re: Can Handbrake work with Interlaced files?

Post by rollin_eng »

musicvid wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:14 pm However, 99% of video shot and submitted for broadcast is Progressive. It has been this way for several years. The broadcaster merely flags it as interlaced; it is nothing you need to do yourself unless a particular outlet tells you specifically to do so.
Not so in many places...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tv/ ... quirements
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