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20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:46 am
by Levan
I have 20gb file and I want to fit it to a single dvd
I really do not care if it will be playable on anything except pc and even more I am not even interested in streaming it from Dvd, all I want from it to be a backup file

So can you tell me if I can somehow select for the output file size to be limited to 4.7 GB

one more thing and this is not that important can you share some good rendering settings ??

thank you in advanced

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:10 pm
by JohnAStebbins
bitrate = desired size / duration

teh maths is hard :mrgreen:

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:57 pm
by mduell
There are many bitrate calculators that can be found online to produce your desired filesize. Or do the math yourself.

The High Profile preset is your best bet.

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:41 pm
by Levan
Thank you for the replies

I read online that if you do not check "Large File Size" Output will be limited to 4 Gb is that a fact ?? and Will mkv/theora will be limited to 4gb or will it work only with x264 and mp4 ??

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:12 pm
by Smithcraft
No. If you check large file support, Handbrake writes the mp4 to be useable if it's over 4 GB.

I don't know about the Theora issue.

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Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:27 pm
by Levan
Smithcraft wrote:No. If you check large file support, Handbrake writes the mp4 to be useable if it's over 4 GB.

I don't know about the Theora issue.

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So my best bet is like "mduell" mentioned is High Profile

But if i chose High profile I still have sliders to work with so I should ignore them and start rendering ??

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:00 am
by Smithcraft
You aren't going to use the sliders, you're going to determine your target bitrate and use that in the bitrate box.

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Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:20 am
by Levan
Smithcraft wrote:You aren't going to use the sliders, you're going to determine your target bitrate and use that in the bitrate box.

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One more question if you do not mind

Does "High profile" Caps the maximum file size or I must go with trial and error principle
example I set average bit rate to 5500 after rendering file size is over dvd 5 limitation, I will start re rendering only with the bit rate I will think will work like 3500

really do not want to go true trial and error method :(

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:27 am
by musicvid
...really do not want to go true trial and error method :(
Dang. Here's "teh maths"
Time (sec) X Bitrate (Mbps) X .125 = File Size (MB)

Or, you could use one of the many bitrate calculators as was suggested.

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:02 am
by Smithcraft
Handbrake no longer offers a target file size. Nothing in the Handbrake set up is aimed at a target file size, but instead targets a quality level. Since Handbrake is encoding to fit a quality level some scenes will take more bits, and some less. If you want to target a file size, you need to use the bit rate options, and as JohnAStebbins, mduell, and musicvid pointed out, do the math.

If you still have problems with files being too large, you could try using VidCoder which does support a target file size. However, all VidCoder support issues have to be taken care of at the VidCoder forum, and not the Handbrake forum.

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Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:52 am
by musicvid
A 20 GB BluRay is "probably" 2+ hrs for the main title.
It is possible to squeeze that onto a DVD as a file, but the quality would be less than elegant.
If encoded at the optimal bitrate, 720p would look great on playback.

But as opaque as the OP seems to be, I wonder if this is really just a next-generation "700MB" question?
:shock:

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:31 am
by TedJ
Step by step instructions.
  1. Open 3ivx's bitrate calculator.
  2. Select an output size of 4472 MB.
  3. Enter your source files duration.
  4. Enter the combined bitrate for your audio tracks.
  5. Hit the calculate button and copy the result in kbps into HandBrake.

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:39 am
by Smithcraft
musicvid wrote:I wonder if this is really just a next-generation "700MB" question?
:shock:
As I mentioned before, in one of the locked target file size threads, yes.

If we're lucky we'll skip past DVD9 and go right to BD25. :wink:

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Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:14 pm
by Levan
Thank you everyone for the information you provided you were huge help
Now I know what my next steps will be so thank you :)

wow bit rate calculators are amazing

I found an easy way to preserver space
Bust out terminal and type

Code: Select all

ffmpeg -i input.fileextension output.ogg
make sure not to specify any thing because specifying things is for girls
the result will be small file size and disgusting quality :)
any way thank you for everything

one more thing I know this part will be off topic but
Smithcraft
what does
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stands for you wrote it in every post

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:47 pm
by vid.user
Levan wrote:one more thing I know this part will be off topic but
Smithcraft
what does
SC
stands for you wrote it in every post
Lol, made my night, cheers :lol:

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:21 pm
by GregiBoy
Mine too!!! :D :D :D

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:00 pm
by Smithcraft
S for Smith C for Craft. Just like signing or initialing a document or letter.

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Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:01 pm
by TedJ
I always thought it stood for sarcastic c#$%... the more you know. :-P

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:54 pm
by Smithcraft
That too! :twisted:

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Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:59 am
by GregiBoy
I thought it was for "Smart C#$%".... :lol:

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:00 am
by Rodeo
Oh, so it's not "Serious Contributor"?

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:40 am
by Smithcraft
Absolutely not. More like Stupid Contributor!

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Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:48 am
by Rodeo
"Scout Club"

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:25 pm
by picasso
Smithcraft wrote:Handbrake no longer offers a target file size. Nothing in the Handbrake set up is aimed at a target file size, but instead targets a quality level. Since Handbrake is encoding to fit a quality level some scenes will take more bits, and some less. If you want to target a file size, you need to use the bit rate options, and as JohnAStebbins, mduell, and musicvid pointed out, do the math.
Too bad ...
Was quite useful to easily scale down Blurays ...
Is there any chance to have that back, as an option ?

Re: 20Gb file to a single dvd5

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:19 pm
by mduell
picasso wrote:Too bad ...
Was quite useful to easily scale down Blurays ...
Is there any chance to have that back, as an option ?
Nope. Didn't work correctly and was a bad idea anyway.