HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

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How much faster is HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot?

Post by sdjeff4sc » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:41 pm

I recently posted the Monty Python thread - I was using a PPC G4 w/ only 1.25 Ghz of RAM and the new snapshot..........

Problems solved w/ Monty Python, I downloaded the snapshot to my 2009 Mini w/ 2 Ghz of RAM. I'm currently encoding True Lies (don't laugh) and it is encoding in 1/3 the time 9.3 uses............ WITH the same settings of Apple Universal/65.2% CQ/Default Decomb/Denoise @ Medium/De-Block @ 10/ AND the LibDivNav set in preferences (same settings I was using w/ the PPC) - I don't mess w/ the cropping.............

Is this the speed which we can expect 9.4 to run? If the encode runs as currently timed, I'll have saved a LOT of time encoding my DVD's to H.264 for use in Front Row - is it perfect - no, but my next acquisition is a Denon w/ upscaling for my standard definition DVD's................

So far, the new snapshot only "broke" when I tried Austin Powers 2, but I'm currently re-encoding it...... I'll report back later.

Should I have posted a log for the "broke" version? I'm sorry but I didn't think to do that before I started re-encoding.............

Thanks again, HB has never let me down - yeah, my needs are simple, but I just want to get my DVD library onto Front Row - or should I consider using Plex (another thread - I know).......

Keep up the good work! It's a shame you don't allow "gifts" or "donations" but I understand why, I just wish I could offer any of the developers in San Diego a cold one...............

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by texasranger » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:38 am

i know that this is an "unstable" build, but it's amazing. It just works faster than the stable build, I like the 64 bit with snow leopard.

Great Work, and thank you!

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by davidw89 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:37 pm

It keeps crashing in snow leopard, especially after i load the files. Sometimes it crashes, sometimes it doesn't. Any ideas why? Also why the hell didn't they make this program able to batch convert..so annoying i have to select a file one by one, add to queue, add file, add to queue, this is time consuming if you've got A LOT of files.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by s55 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:46 pm

If it's crashing, then post a bug report using the following "how to post a bug report" guide
Also why the hell didn't they make this program able to batch convert
Firstly, the attitude isn't appreciated.
Second, We've stated many times that this is a feature that will appear in a later version (not 0.9.4) when several other features are up to par to allow this to work properly.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by sdjeff4sc » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:38 pm

Breakdown of Snapshot on Austin Powers

OK, "Spy Who Shagged Me" got almost completely through the encode and then failed - I re-opened HB and it saw the encode in the queue - tried to re-start, it wouldn't.

Using PB G4 w/ 1.25 Ghz, VLC, ripped w/ MTR 2.6.6, settings for Apple/Universal, 65.20% CQ, Medium Denoise, Default Decomb, Deblock set at 10. These settings also broke on my 2009 Intel Mini w/ 2 Ghz, same settings for "Pale Rider", got almost to the end of the encode and then failed - just like Austin Powers. I reverted to 9.3 for both encodes and they are working fine.

The snapshot seems to work a lot faster, True Lies encoded in 1/3 the normal time (on my Mini) but Autin Powers broke on my PPC G4 and Pale Rider on my Intel Mini.

Here's the log.........

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HandBrake Activity Log for /Users/jeffuhlman/Desktop/AUSTIN_POWERS_2 Main Feature.m4v: 2009-10-09 11:27:53 -0700
Handbrake Version: svn2829 ppc (2009091601)

[11:27:53] macgui: Rip: Pending queue count is 0
[11:27:53] macgui: scanning specifically for title: 1
[11:27:53] macgui: performNewQueueScan currentQueueEncodeIndex is: 0
[11:27:53] hb_scan: path=/Users/jeffuhlman/Movies/AUSTIN_POWERS_2 Main Feature/VIDEO_TS, title_index=1
[11:27:53] scan: trying to open with libdvdread
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
libdvdnav: Can't read name block. Probably not a DVD-ROM device.
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/Users/jeffuhlman/.dvdnav/.map'
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
[11:27:53] scan: DVD has 1 title(s)
[11:27:53] scan: scanning title 1
[11:27:53] scan: opening IFO for VTS 1
[11:27:53] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 0x5145260
[11:27:53] scan: vts=1, ttn=1, cells=0->45, blocks=0->1991857, 1991858 blocks
[11:27:53] scan: duration is 01:35:01 (5701253 ms)
[11:27:53] scan: checking audio 1
[11:27:53] scan: id=80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[11:27:53] scan: checking audio 2
[11:27:53] scan: id=81bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=1
[11:27:53] scan: checking audio 3
[11:27:53] scan: id=82bd, lang=English (AC3) (Director's Commentary 1), 3cc=eng ext=3
[11:27:53] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:27:53] scan: id=20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng
[11:27:53] scan: title 1 has 31 chapters
[11:27:53] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->90105 (90106), 279998 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=90106->152254 (62149), 160666 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 3 c=2->4, b=152255->215665 (63411), 186183 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 4 c=5->7, b=215666->263910 (48245), 133076 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 5 c=8->8, b=263911->352461 (88551), 287098 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 6 c=9->9, b=352462->396419 (43958), 124532 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 7 c=10->10, b=396420->436145 (39726), 131385 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 8 c=11->11, b=436146->481812 (45667), 122393 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 9 c=12->12, b=481813->516036 (34224), 95575 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 10 c=13->13, b=516037->598856 (82820), 189570 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 11 c=14->14, b=598857->655104 (56248), 145404 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 12 c=15->15, b=655105->728057 (72953), 231965 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 13 c=16->16, b=728058->810169 (82112), 266741 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 14 c=17->17, b=810170->824973 (14804), 39295 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 15 c=18->20, b=824974->900187 (75214), 194078 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 16 c=21->21, b=900188->937863 (37676), 113335 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 17 c=22->22, b=937864->1017605 (79742), 257893 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 18 c=23->23, b=1017606->1059331 (41726), 130539 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 19 c=24->24, b=1059332->1103824 (44493), 120511 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 20 c=25->27, b=1103825->1196132 (92308), 296205 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 21 c=28->30, b=1196133->1259605 (63473), 212118 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 22 c=31->33, b=1259606->1296954 (37349), 103827 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 23 c=34->34, b=1296955->1399727 (102773), 278828 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 24 c=35->36, b=1399728->1452279 (52552), 171653 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 25 c=37->37, b=1452280->1532520 (80241), 233960 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 26 c=38->38, b=1532521->1608221 (75701), 193704 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 27 c=39->39, b=1608222->1691712 (83491), 255711 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 28 c=40->40, b=1691713->1736840 (45128), 120344 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 29 c=41->41, b=1736841->1804898 (68058), 201593 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 30 c=42->44, b=1804899->1991853 (186955), 422882 ms
[11:27:53] scan: chap 31 c=45->45, b=1991854->1991857 (4), 176 ms
[11:27:53] scan: aspect = 0
[11:27:53] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[11:27:53] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:27:54] scan: audio 0x80bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 English (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[11:27:54] scan: audio 0x81bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Dolby Surround)
[11:27:54] scan: audio 0x82bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Director's Commentary 1) (Dolby Surround)
[11:27:54] scan: 10 previews, 720x480, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 60/56/4/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 32:27
[11:27:54] scan: title (0) job->width:720, job->height:304
[11:27:54] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[11:27:54] macgui: ScanDone state received from fQueueEncodeLibhb
[11:27:54] macgui: Preset: Custom
[11:27:54] macgui: processNewQueueEncode number of passes expected is: 1
[11:27:54] macgui: prepareJob audiotrack 2 is: 0
[11:27:54] macgui: prepareJob exiting
[11:27:54] 1 job(s) to process
[11:27:54] starting job
[11:27:54] job configuration:
[11:27:54]  * source
[11:27:54]    + /Users/jeffuhlman/Movies/AUSTIN_POWERS_2 Main Feature/VIDEO_TS
[11:27:54]    + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 31
[11:27:54]  * destination
[11:27:54]    + /Users/jeffuhlman/Desktop/AUSTIN_POWERS_2 Main Feature.m4v
[11:27:54]    + container: MPEG-4 (.mp4 and .m4v)
[11:27:54]      + chapter markers
[11:27:54]  * video track
[11:27:54]    + decoder: mpeg2
[11:27:54]      + bitrate 9001 kbps
[11:27:54]    + frame rate: same as source (around 23.976 fps)
[11:27:54]    + loose anamorphic
[11:27:54]      + modulus: 0
[11:27:54]      + storage dimensions: 720 * 480 -> 720 * 368, crop 60/56/4/0
[11:27:54]      + pixel aspect ratio: 857 / 720
[11:27:54]      + display dimensions: 857 * 368
[11:27:54]    + filters
[11:27:54]      + Decomb (default settings)
[11:27:54]      + Denoise (hqdn3d) (3:2:2:3)
[11:27:54]      + Deblock (pp7) (10)
[11:27:54]    + encoder: x264
[11:27:54]      + options: cabac=0:ref=2:me=umh:bframes=0:8x8dct=0:trellis=0:subq=6
[11:27:54]      + quality: 17.75 (RF)
[11:27:54]  * audio track 0
[11:27:54]    + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[11:27:54]      + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[11:27:54]    + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[11:27:54]    + encoder: ca_aac
[11:27:54]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[11:27:54]  * audio track 1
[11:27:54]    + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 80bd)
[11:27:54]      + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[11:27:54]    + AC3 passthrough
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
libdvdnav: Can't read name block. Probably not a DVD-ROM device.
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/Users/jeffuhlman/.dvdnav/.map'
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
[11:27:55] reader: first SCR 146
[11:27:55] yadif thread started for segment 0
[11:27:55] decomb thread started for segment 0
[11:27:55] mpeg2: "Chapter  1" (1) at frame 0 time 9009
[11:27:55] encx264: keyint-min: 24, keyint-max: 240
[11:27:55] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 857/720
[11:27:55] encx264: Encoding at constant RF 17.750000
x264 [info]: using SAR=857/720
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: Altivec
x264 [info]: profile Baseline, level 3.0
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[11:27:55] sync: expecting 136717 video frames
[ac3 @ 0x13af200]No channel layout specified. The encoder will guess the layout, but it might be incorrect.
[11:27:55] sync: first pts is 9009
[11:29:27] 12.612567s: Film -> Video
[11:29:28] 12.746067s: Video -> Film
[11:29:39] 13.930567s: Film -> Video
[11:29:40] 14.080733s: Video -> Film
[11:31:46] 27.277245s: Film -> Video
[11:31:46] 27.310612s: Video -> Film
[11:32:10] 29.462755s: Film -> Video
[11:32:11] 29.496122s: Video -> Film
[11:38:32] 63.496735s: Film -> Video
[11:38:33] 63.530132s: Video -> Film
[12:12:10] 279.862915s: Film -> Video
[12:12:13] mpeg2: "Chapter  2" (2) at frame 6681 time 25213188
[12:12:13] 280.179901s: Video -> Film
[12:27:12] 384.133728s: Film -> Video
[12:27:14] 384.283905s: Video -> Film
[12:27:23] 385.468414s: Film -> Video
[12:27:24] 385.601868s: Video -> Film
[12:36:50] 440.873779s: Film -> Video
[12:36:54] mpeg2: "Chapter  3" (3) at frame 10545 time 39705666
[12:36:54] 441.174042s: Video -> Film
[12:38:42] 455.221436s: Film -> Video
[12:38:45] 455.521729s: Video -> Film
[13:01:00] 620.720093s: Film -> Video
[13:01:01] 620.853577s: Video -> Film
[13:02:00] 626.726074s: Film -> Video
[13:02:03] mpeg2: "Chapter  4" (4) at frame 15006 time 56432376
[13:02:03] 627.026428s: Video -> Film
[13:07:28] 664.930908s: Film -> Video
[13:07:30] 665.064392s: Video -> Film
[13:19:59] 750.349609s: Film -> Video
[13:20:05] 750.649841s: Video -> Film
[13:21:42] mpeg2: "Chapter  5" (5) at frame 18222 time 68504436
[13:58:23] 1047.646606s: Film -> Video
[13:58:24] mpeg2: "Chapter  6" (6) at frame 25095 time 94297203
[13:58:25] 1047.780029s: Video -> Film
[14:15:23] 1172.588135s: Film -> Video
[14:15:24] 1172.721558s: Video -> Film
[14:15:25] mpeg2: "Chapter  7" (7) at frame 28095 time 105553948
[14:19:24] 1202.301025s: Film -> Video
[14:19:25] 1202.334473s: Video -> Film
[14:19:27] 1202.501343s: Film -> Video
[14:19:28] 1202.601440s: Video -> Film
[14:33:46] 1304.436401s: Film -> Video
[14:33:47] mpeg2: "Chapter  8" (8) at frame 31254 time 117405288
[14:33:47] 1304.536499s: Video -> Film
[14:51:49] 1427.192505s: Film -> Video
[14:51:50] 1427.325806s: Video -> Film
[14:51:51] mpeg2: "Chapter  9" (9) at frame 34203 time 128469841
[15:05:09] mpeg2: "Chapter 10" (10) at frame 36495 time 137073436
[15:36:30] mpeg2: "Chapter 11" (11) at frame 41043 time 154145491
[15:46:02] 1772.203735s: Film -> Video
[15:46:02] 1772.237183s: Video -> Film
[15:59:28] mpeg2: "Chapter 12" (12) at frame 44523 time 167208541
[16:43:33] 2089.854492s: Film -> Video
[16:43:34] mpeg2: "Chapter 13" (13) at frame 50088 time 188095908
[16:43:34] 2089.987793s: Video -> Film
[17:24:49] 2356.120361s: Film -> Video
[17:24:51] 2356.253906s: Video -> Film
[17:24:52] mpeg2: "Chapter 14" (14) at frame 56475 time 212070358
[17:31:18] 2395.976807s: Film -> Video
[17:31:19] 2396.110352s: Video -> Film
[17:31:20] mpeg2: "Chapter 15" (15) at frame 57432 time 215658943
[17:38:43] 2445.876709s: Film -> Video
[17:38:44] 2446.010254s: Video -> Film
[18:01:31] mpeg2: "Chapter 16" (16) at frame 62106 time 233199466
[18:18:24] 2704.618652s: Film -> Video
[18:18:27] mpeg2: "Chapter 17" (17) at frame 64836 time 243441198
[18:18:27] 2704.935547s: Video -> Film
[18:23:18] 2736.150146s: Film -> Video
[18:23:19] 2736.283447s: Video -> Film
[18:56:03] mpeg2: "Chapter 18" (18) at frame 71019 time 266637871
[19:14:59] mpeg2: "Chapter 19" (19) at frame 74151 time 278394616
[19:33:31] mpeg2: "Chapter 20" (20) at frame 77043 time 289250461
[19:47:04] 3307.404053s: Film -> Video
[19:47:06] 3307.537354s: Video -> Film
[19:50:35] 3330.243652s: Film -> Video
[19:50:38] 3330.560791s: Video -> Film
[20:13:17] 3487.417236s: Film -> Video
[20:13:18] 3487.550537s: Video -> Film
[20:16:47] 3510.940918s: Film -> Video
[20:16:51] 3511.241211s: Video -> Film
[20:16:51] mpeg2: "Chapter 21" (21) at frame 84180 time 316019203
[20:25:58] 3564.994873s: Film -> Video
[20:26:01] 3565.294922s: Video -> Film
[20:31:30] 3600.029785s: Film -> Video
[20:31:32] 3600.163086s: Video -> Film
[20:49:33] 3723.653320s: Film -> Video
[20:49:36] mpeg2: "Chapter 22" (22) at frame 89283 time 335152818
[20:49:36] 3723.953369s: Video -> Film
[20:51:37] 3735.648682s: Film -> Video
[20:51:39] 3735.798828s: Video -> Film
[21:06:50] mpeg2: "Chapter 23" (23) at frame 91803 time 344607763
[21:49:22] 4107.686523s: Film -> Video
[21:49:24] mpeg2: "Chapter 24" (24) at frame 98490 time 369705336
[21:49:24] 4107.836914s: Video -> Film
[21:57:01] 4157.753418s: Film -> Video
[21:57:05] 4158.054199s: Video -> Film
[22:16:17] mpeg2: "Chapter 25" (25) at frame 102612 time 385166281
[22:51:07] 4513.108398s: Film -> Video
[22:51:10] 4513.409180s: Video -> Film
[22:51:11] mpeg2: "Chapter 26" (26) at frame 108222 time 406214308
[23:24:17] 4706.468262s: Film -> Video
[23:24:20] mpeg2: "Chapter 27" (27) at frame 112857 time 423606183
[23:24:20] 4706.768555s: Video -> Film
[00:01:41] 4961.873535s: Film -> Video
[00:01:43] 4962.007324s: Video -> Film
[00:01:44] mpeg2: "Chapter 28" (28) at frame 118977 time 446589643
[00:22:52] 5082.244141s: Film -> Video
[00:22:54] 5082.477539s: Video -> Film
[00:22:54] mpeg2: "Chapter 29" (29) at frame 121860 time 457430473
[00:54:02] mpeg2: "Chapter 30" (30) at frame 126684 time 475541566
libdvdnav: *** pgci_ut handle is NULL ***

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by Rodeo » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:28 pm

Looks like a dvdnav issue - you could probably get the snapshot to work for those discs by disabling dvdnav in Preferences…

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by sdjeff4sc » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:48 pm

Thanks! I'll try that next disc, Austin Powers should be ready in about an hour.

However, I had to use the "DVDNAV" to get my disc 3 of Monty Python to encode. I guess it varies by disc.

I'll report back, but do the developers want to post on this thread regarding "snapshot" bugs or do they want it on the "bugs" thread since the snapshot is not a complete build yet?

Thanks again!

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by Rodeo » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:07 pm

sdjeff4sc wrote:Thanks! I'll try that next disc, Austin Powers should be ready in about an hour.

However, I had to use the "DVDNAV" to get my disc 3 of Monty Python to encode. I guess it varies by disc.

I'll report back, but do the developers want to post on this thread regarding "snapshot" bugs or do they want it on the "bugs" thread since the snapshot is not a complete build yet?

Thanks again!
Answer is in the first post:
HandBrake wrote: When you find broken things in this snapshot--which you will--post a thorough bug report in our bugs forum.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by sdjeff4sc » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:31 pm

Sorry........ still kind of finding my way around here - I'm trying to do it the right way.......

I'll post further response to this on the "bug thread"................

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by JohnAStebbins » Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:58 am

sdjeff4sc, your problem with austin powers is a problem with how MTR ripps the disc when using "Main Feature Extraction" mode. It creates an image with no menus, but leaves navigation commands in place that attempt to jump to the menu. If you use full disc mode, or just skip MTR all together and let handbrake encode straight from disc, it works fine. I've checked in a fix, so the next snapshot shouldn't have this problem.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by Foljiny » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:51 am

When you say no more ogg, or avi support, (not to be dense) but does that mean you won't be able to convert from those formats anymore?

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by TedJ » Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:47 am

Oh no, you'll still be able to convert from those formats, along with anything else the current builds of ffmpeg can reliably read/decode. You just won't be able to write to them anymore.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by guitrmn35 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:09 pm

First thing, this build is incredibly fast! Thank you for creating a 64 bit version.

With that being said, the main issue that I am having with the 64 bit version of this build is it will not allow me to select the source, then start the encoding process without shutting down Handbrake and restarting. I have to select the source, "Add to Queue", quit Handbrake, restart Handbrake, reload Queue, then I am able to encode.

I also acts the same with with selecting a second source after adding the first to the queue. I have to "Add to Queue", quit Handbrake, restart Handbrake, reload Queue, select second source, "Add to Queue", quit Handbrake again, restart Handbrake again, reload Queue again, then I am able to encode.

And so on.

Thanks!!!

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by deepsiks » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:07 am

How do you adjust the quality of the encode using SVN2845? Looking at presets, quality is set to -q 20 (appletv) where as current stable is -q .59. Has the scale changed or am I lost?

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by TedJ » Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:54 pm

deepsiks wrote:How do you adjust the quality of the encode using SVN2845? Looking at presets, quality is set to -q 20 (appletv) where as current stable is -q .59. Has the scale changed or am I lost?
The scale hasn't changed as such, the way it's reported has... we kept encountering issues with the whole percentage thing where people would think it referred to percentage quality of the source, then crank the thing to 100%.

The percentage slider under 0.9.3 was expressed as (51 - RF) / 51 - plugging in some numbers gives us (51 - 20) / 51 = 61%... so the actual quality hasn't changed very much between 0.9.3 and current code.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by ctl » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:23 pm

Has anyone else noticed a *significant* decrease in file size moving from SVN2829 to SVN2845? I'm seeing a reduction of 30-50% on nearly every file. I am encoding to H.264/MKV with the high profile settings in both cases, adjusting to CRF 16 (69%). The only setting difference I can find is the loss of pyramidal b-frames due to the fact that they're disabled in the new build, but from what I understand having those on should shrink files a bit, not grow them. I've done a lot of side by side comparisons, and I just can't see a visual difference between the two. Have there been substantial improvements in the encoding algorithm efficiency, or is it likely something nefarious is going on here?

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by JohnAStebbins » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:06 pm

x264's new mbtree algorithm generally results in smaller files for a given quality. It also results in changes that makes it difficult to directly compare an old encode with a new one. Sometimes a new encode will result in slightly higher quality with the exact same settings and sometimes slightly lower. The overall distribution when looking at a large collection of encodes is actually tighter (meaning more consistent quality from source to source). There was much discussion and comparisons done when mbtree first arrived here http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php ... lit=mbtree

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by deepsiks » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:41 am

The percentage slider under 0.9.3 was expressed as (51 - RF) / 51 - plugging in some numbers gives us (51 - 20) / 51 = 61%... so the actual quality hasn't changed very much between 0.9.3 and current code.
Thanks! That was what I was looking for, couldn't figure out how to bump it up to 68% with CLI.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by nightstrm » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:28 pm

deepsiks wrote:
The percentage slider under 0.9.3 was expressed as (51 - RF) / 51 - plugging in some numbers gives us (51 - 20) / 51 = 61%... so the actual quality hasn't changed very much between 0.9.3 and current code.
Thanks! That was what I was looking for, couldn't figure out how to bump it up to 68% with CLI.
68% is way too high for DVD sources with the newer x264 builds, imho.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by mrsound » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:21 pm

just wanted to say this build is great. much faster encoding, smaller file sizes, improved interface. great work :D

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by RoverTX » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:08 pm

nightstrm wrote:
deepsiks wrote:
The percentage slider under 0.9.3 was expressed as (51 - RF) / 51 - plugging in some numbers gives us (51 - 20) / 51 = 61%... so the actual quality hasn't changed very much between 0.9.3 and current code.
Thanks! That was what I was looking for, couldn't figure out how to bump it up to 68% with CLI.
68% is way too high for DVD sources with the newer x264 builds, imho.
@nightstrm I am currently using the newest build and am mostly using it for animation DVDs. My problem is that if I don't have it set to 100% (0RF) it ends up looking very blocky every other time something movies. I wasn't having this problem before I updated. Here are my current settings I am using in order to get around this

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:File type = MKV H.264 (x264)
:Frame rate = Same as source
:b-pyramid=1 
:b-adapt=2 
:me=umh 
:subq=9 
:analyse=all 
:trellis=0 
:bframes=16 
:ref=6 
:merange=32 
:no-dct-decimate=1 
:Quality = Constant 100%
:Decombing = Default and Preferred (ie the bar is pulled all the way over to Decombing)
My main purpose is to archive anyway so loosing out on space really isn't that big of a deal its just kind of annoying as it stands now. I will encode something short on what used to be around my normal settings when i get a chance and post the log if that will help.

Also I play everything using VLC. I have the buffering for everything set very high, and have it set to be using both CPUs, and have frame skipping off, so I don't think its a player issue, and when I tried making an MP4 file and used quicktime it did the same thing.

I am running Mac OS X 10.5.8 on an iMac 3.06 Intel Core 2 Duo with 4 GB of ram.

Thanks in advance for any help, and thanks for developing such a great tool.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by Rodeo » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:30 pm

RoverTX, please create a new topic for your issue.
RoverTX wrote:My problem is that if I don't have it set to 100% (0RF) it ends up looking very blocky every other time something movies. I wasn't having this problem before I updated.
In this new topic you create, please provide an encode log for a non-100% encode where you have the issue with the snapshot.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by maxxouille » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:06 am

I rip my DVDs with DVDShrink before encoding them with handbrake. DVDShrink gives me an "image" of my DVD containing subtitles.
Is there a way I can use these subtitles to include them (not burn them) into the mkv file i will generate with handbrake.

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by TedJ » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:32 am

Select your subtitle stream, deselect "Burned In" and optionally select "Default".

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Re: HandBrake SVN2845 Snapshot

Post by maxxouille » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:41 am

great, thanks a lot

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