Necessary feedback on the forums (Got a gripe? Keep it here)

[Xaero]

Do mods have to approve every single post I make?

[ijfoote]

Some of you people are right out outrageous. This is a free app, that offers some links to other free apps that make your encoding experience easier. I've used this app for nearly two years and it has worked amazingly for me. Yeah, some times a movie doesn't come out right, or I can't figure out which chapter to choose, or some other crap happens. So what, it was free, I'll move to the next DVD and mark the old one as not good enough for me! The devs are A-holes.........really? Did they mention enough that it was free, a labor of love? Look devs, my 2 cents, be as audacious as you want, it's your project and after years of working this project and thousands of stupid questions answered, if people aren't willing to search for ten minutes, look at FAQ's or the wiki, then be a [CENSORED]! Thanks for an absolutely amazing product guys! Seriously, my ATV is the hub of my entertainment and I consider a DVD player to be all but obsolete, all because of Handbrake. Keep up the amazing work!

[Xaero]

I'm sure you ought to have started - "Some of use are..."

[baggss]

Do mods have to approve every single post I make?

There is a threshold you have to cross before that stops. I have no idea what it is though...

[jbrjake]

As explained in the previous page of this thread...

It's not a set time period. It's PhpBB "newly registered users" features. Basically for the first X posts, users have 1 set of permissions. After they cross the set limit, they get a new less restrictive set.

The limit varies based on how things are going on the forum. Limit is around 12 at the moment.

[Da Man]

Personally, I feel the Devs have really toned it down. JBRJake used to be a highlight of my day. No one could reduce some one to the size of my thumb with two or three carefully crafted sentences. Ah, the good ol' days.

And I was serious about the devs toning it down. I counted 5 times one day that a dev told different users to download VLC so Handbrake could read a protected source. I tell my employees once, remind tham once, and, well, I don't like getting to the last part.

[Xaero]

Do mods have to approve every single post I make?

There is a threshold you have to cross before that stops. I have no idea what it is though...

It was 19 for me. Most forums have a limit of 5-10. That's why I asked.

Personally, I feel the Devs have really toned it down. JBRJake used to be a highlight of my day. No one could reduce some one to the size of my thumb with two or three carefully crafted sentences. Ah, the good ol' days.

And I was serious about the devs toning it down. I counted 5 times one day that a dev told different users to download VLC so Handbrake could read a protected source. I tell my employees once, remind tham once, and, well, I don't like getting to the last part.

I guess you have to be patient on forums. When I was new to forums I used to get [Censored] at everyone who kept asking the same question but you get used to it after sometime.

[TedJ]

It was 19 for me. Most forums have a limit of 5-10. That's why I asked.

True, but I think it may be a little more complicated than an arbitrary number - all your posts have been made in approximately four days. You certainly have been busy...

I guess you have to be patient on forums. When I was new to forums I used to get [Censored] at everyone who kept asking the same question but you get used to it after sometime.

Maybe, until you realise that the people who actually answer those same questions comprise less than 1% of the forum population. Even I have a bad day every now and then, and I'm usually known for being even tempered.

[Xaero]

True, but I think it may be a little more complicated than an arbitrary number - all your posts have been made in approximately four days. You certainly have been busy...

, today is the 7th straight day I've been reading about video encoding. Last time I was seriously encoding videos when Xvid wasn't even at v1 so there is lots catching up to do.

[XORAL]

I put in a few observations to the forum about how I thought the previous version was much more user friendly and got a very stern reply from someone who didn't like the content and the format of my post saying that i needed to put in an activity log. I really don't know what that is. Further to the handbrake dilema, when I uninstalled it it has come back about eleven times over and over and I have had nothing but trouble with my computer since the harsh words from the moderator. Since I have met and had dealings with some of the people from the Linux community in Vancouver and had two different Linux operating systems, the latest activities from your group with your superior knowledge, has led me to believe that you are destructive if you decide that a person is not worthy of your esteemed position in life and God help them if they criticize you, they will never ever get any computer peace for the rest of their lives or until you find a more worthy target. Did you grow up stealing lunch money from the other kids at school or was it you that had it stolen and is the root of your vindictive bitterness??????? GROW UP!!

[s55]

I put in a few observations to the forum about how I thought the previous version was much more user friendly and got a very stern reply from someone who didn't like the content and the format of my post saying that i needed to put in an activity log. I really don't know what that is.

So, the forum rules don't apply to you? This is all documented and relevant links are included in the forum rules. Hell, there is even a post in the forum announcements that walks you through this. Also note the red box above every forum. Really what your saying is "I am too rude and lazy to be bothered to read the rules/guidelines. I just want you to waste your time hand-holding me through a process that is fully documented because I'm too lazy and willingly ignorant."

Further to the handbrake dilema, when I uninstalled it it has come back about eleven times over and over and I have had nothing but trouble with my computer since the harsh words from the moderator.

Clearly the moderators words were some nasty voodoo.

Since I have met and had dealings with some of the people from the Linux community in Vancouver and had two different Linux operating systems, the latest activities from your group with your superior knowledge, has led me to believe that you are destructive if you decide that a person is not worthy of your esteemed position in life and God help them if they criticize you, they will never ever get any computer peace for the rest of their lives or until you find a more worthy target. Did you grow up stealing lunch money from the other kids at school or was it you that had it stolen and is the root of your vindictive bitterness??????? GROW UP!!

Maybe consider what you've just said before telling others to grow up. You'll find plenty of people on this forum that have taken the time to follow the rules and have received help and been happy. If your just here to waste our free time, then your not welcome here.

[s55]

On a side note. I resync'd the newly registered users group last night. That should have kicked anyone out that shouldn't have been there.

[jkbc]

Man, XORAL is just a whole lot of ignorant for one person.

[TedC]

Would it be possible to break the forums into different software versions? While searching for solutions, I found alot of v0.93 or lower posts coming up (that weren't obvious 0.93 posts) when I was trying to work in v0.94. I realize you're at the whim of the community posting in the right spot (and it'll probably be a bear to move posts around for the specific versions).

[baggss]

Would it be possible to break the forums into different software versions? While searching for solutions, I found alot of v0.93 or lower posts coming up (that weren't obvious 0.93 posts) when I was trying to work in v0.94. I realize you're at the whim of the community posting in the right spot (and it'll probably be a bear to move posts around for the specific versions).

Older software versions are not supported, so probably not.

[bradycl]

If I gather his intent correctly, TedC does have a point. Older versions are not supported, so the only point to being here is to look for solutions with 0.9.4 or newer. However, most of the information you get with a search, which is supposed to be the first thing you do, is going to be information from previous versions, which often is no longer applicable, and is sometimes downright misleading to how to get the best out of current builds.

Granted, I'd like to hope that those with common sense would look at the post date before taking what they read as current gospel, but that requires the existence of what the courts define as "a reasonable person". I lost faith in the existence of that a long time ago, therefore I understand TedC's point, although I don't know how you would accomplish that goal, unless it was by deleting old posts or creating 0.9.3 (and earlier) sections that are locked to prevent new posts.

Seems like a lot of work, especially considering that chastizing the more "post before you think"-type newbs a bit and making them think and hopefully research a bit before they post again *does* serve a purpose.

[lacerna]

The ONLY reason I've joined this forum is to post this reply.

I've spent the better part of the preceding year lurking these forums and using Handbrake .93. The program is great. The forums are not.

To expect an answer to something unreasonable, such as "Handbrake no worky! What wrong?!" is asinine. So is "You forgot line 10,000 of the Ogre's Oath, N00B! YOU ARE TEH BANNED!" Free programs are awesome, and the people that make them should be proud when they do so well that they're featured in Maximum PC before even releasing a 1.0.

However, it is a LIE to say that this is some sort of labor of love. Okay, maybe it's a labor of loving a better program for converting video! But it is certainly not done for the love of the world or to give something back. That argument is lost when the admins and developers become so bitter when answering questions or dealing with criticism. We all know that the developers behind this program are:

1.) Honing skills for future projects and paying jobs
2.) Creating something that, when perfected just right, could easily be switched into a FOR-PROFIT program
3.) Creating something that THEY (the developers) want
4.) Obtaining widespread FREE testing across numerous platforms and computer setups, instead of paying 100 jokers to test it OR having to be at the beck-and-call of 100 testers every time the program screws up their computer.

How absurd would it be to simply create a FREE program because of global demand instead of personal need? These developers are pretty cool for creating such an awesome program. Cool, but you ARE NOT A RETURNING MESSIAH! Stop acting like farting in a n00b's face will cure cancer. This place suffers from the worst of both worlds: the moderators and knowledgeable act like the most miserable people ever, and the people asking questions are so damn STUPID that it cannot be believed in any reality.

My point: both sides should stop blaming and getting upset and start remembering: "if this is just some gimme program, why even reply to (SUPPOSEDLY) stupid questions?" AND "If I got this program for free, why not just find some other program and stop dealing with (SUPPOSED) a-hole developers?"

[dynaflash]

We all know that the developers behind this program are:

1.) Honing skills for future projects and paying jobs
2.) Creating something that, when perfected just right, could easily be switched into a FOR-PROFIT program
3.) Creating something that THEY (the developers) want
4.) Obtaining widespread FREE testing across numerous platforms and computer setups, instead of paying 100 jokers to test it OR having to be at the beck-and-call of 100 testers every time the program screws up their computer.

Well, 1 out of 4 isn't too bad.

[Da Man]

I KNEW this was eventually switching to a 'for-profit' program.

[Deleted User 11865]

I KNEW this was eventually switching to a 'for-profit' program.

They stand to make billions

[Da Man]

Step #1 - Collect underpants
Step #2 - Develop Encoder
Step #3 - ???
Step #4 - Profit

[TedC]

Stop acting like farting in a n00b's face will cure cancer

Only Chuck Norris' tears can cure cancer - even the devs here know that

Seriously though - I think there might be some confusion between bashing a newb and a tert answer (or locking of threads). I'm a developer and a customer service rep roled into one (i.e. an implementation developer) - so sometimes I'm tert - but it's no disresepct for a question. Asking me the same question more than once will definitely get me exasperated.

I, for one, wish every forum I attended were as controlled as this one. If someone's got a legitimate question - how often do you see it get pushed off page one because some idiot's spamming the new topic button? Try asking a question in the apple forums - once your post goes to page two - the chances of an answer fall to nill.

[BradleyS]

1) Hahahahahahahahahaaaa!

2) In all seriousness: most of the devs are good people, most of them are already successful in one way or another outside of HB, and most of the terse responses you see on the forums are because someone neither read nor followed the well hidden Forum Rules (hidden in the section in red with bold lettering near the top of every single page on the forum).

I'll be the first to admit that some people can be snarky or just plain rude, but one shouldn't attribute the character of the few to everyone.

Also, I'm truly sorry about my hair; it's always been that way.

[Da Man]

There's only one way to make this thread truly collapse under it's own weight, and that's for all of us to debate the following question -

-Is the current economic malaise the fault of Obama the socialist or Bush the facist?

This post should be locked in about 5 minutes.

[dynaflash]

There's only one way to make this thread truly collapse under it's own weight, and that's for all of us to debate the following question -

-Is the current economic malaise the fault of Obama the socialist or Bush the facist?

This post should be locked in about 5 minutes.

Wrong again, it was put in stickies as the catchall garbage dump for all forum griping. It can never die!!