Can HB Work a .vob file with no companion .ifo file?

[sitenoise]

I dubbed VHS tape to DVD with Panasonic DMRxxx (a friend's) and the ones that the Panasonic was able to finalize were handled perfectly with HB. However, I got one that didn't get finalized. I used CDRoller (Windows program) to recover the .vob file but that's all I could get. I can't get the .ifo files (don't know why).

The .vob file plays fine in VLC but the time readout goes weird if I skip around the stream.
HB will open the .vob file fine but shows it as being Zero seconds in length and if I go ahead and click Start in HB it finishes in a couple seconds and I have a file with a couple frames, but that's all.

Everywhere I've looked for dealing with .vob files assumes there is an .ifo file with it, which there would be given a successful rip.

Here's the Activity log from the session:

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HandBrake Activity Log for Session (Cleared): 2008-09-10 12:28:19 -0700

[12:28:19] hb_init: checking cpu count
[12:28:19] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[12:28:19] thread b0147000 started ("libhb")
[12:28:26] macgui: trying to open video_ts folder (parent directory chosen)
[12:28:26] hb_scan: path=/Users/phil/Desktop/Newton Wins Again.vob, title_index=0
[12:28:26] thread b0a1e000 started ("scan")
[12:28:26] scan: trying to open with libdvdread
GUI ERROR dialog: dvd: DVDOpen failed (/Users/phil/Desktop/Newton Wins Again.vob)
[12:28:26] file is MPEG Program Stream
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 2241247 at 15558656
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 1657218 at 46641152
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 251960 at 77735936
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 2058965 at 108812288
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 1053615 at 139909120
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 61824 at 171010048
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 1854615 at 202078208
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 864503 at 233181184
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 2609315 at 264267776
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 1618325 at 295378944
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 633341 at 326451200
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 2420126 at 357521408
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 1437344 at 388620288
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 388781 at 419702784
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 2194100 at 450795520
[12:28:26] hb_sample_pts: pts 1187949 at 481878016
[12:28:26] add_audio_to_title: added AC3 audio stream 0x80bd
[12:28:26] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[12:28:26] scan: preview 1
[12:28:26] scan: AC3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=256000
[12:28:26] scan: preview 2
[12:28:26] scan: preview 3
[12:28:26] scan: preview 4
[12:28:26] scan: preview 5
[12:28:26] scan: preview 6
[12:28:26] scan: preview 7
[12:28:26] scan: preview 8
[12:28:26] scan: preview 9
[12:28:26] scan: preview 10
[12:28:26] scan: 720x480, 29.970 fps, autocrop = 0/0/12/6
[12:28:26] hb_stream_update_audio: id=80bd, lang=Unknown (AC3) (2.0 ch), 3cc=und, rate = 48000, bitrate = 256000, flags = 0x2 (2)
[12:28:26] scan: title (0) job->width:624, job->height:480
[12:28:26] thread b0a1e000 exited ("scan")
[12:28:26] thread b0a1e000 joined ("scan")
[12:28:26] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[12:28:55] thread b0579000 started ("work")
[12:28:55] 2 job(s) to process
[12:28:55] starting job
[12:28:55]  + device /Users/phil/Desktop/Newton Wins Again.vob
[12:28:55]  + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 1
[12:28:55]  + 720x480 -> 702x480, crop 0/0/12/6
[12:28:55]  + video frame rate: 29.970 fps
[12:28:55]  + video bitrate 1500 kbps, pass 1
[12:28:55]  + PixelRatio: 1, width:702, height: 480
[12:28:55]  + encoder x264
[12:28:55]    + x264 options: ref=2:bframes=2:subq=5:me=umh:ref=1:subme=1:me=dia:analyse=none:trellis=0:no-fast-pskip=0:8x8dct=0:weightb=0
[12:28:55]  + audio 160 kbps, 48000 Hz
[12:28:55]  + encoder faac
[12:28:55] thread b05fb000 started ("reader")
[12:28:55]  + output: /Users/phil/Desktop/Newton Wins Again.vob.mp4
[12:28:55] thread b06d3000 started ("muxer")
GUI ERROR dialog: dvd: DVDOpen failed (/Users/phil/Desktop/Newton Wins Again.vob)
[12:28:55] thread b0833000 started ("MPEG-2 decoder (libmpeg2)")
[12:28:55] thread b0a1e000 started ("Renderer")
[12:28:55] encx264: keyint-min: 30, keyint-max: 300
[12:28:55] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 8/9
[12:28:55] encx264: opening libx264 (pass 1)
x264 [warning]: width or height not divisible by 16 (702x480), compression will suffer.
x264 [info]: using SAR=8/9
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 Cache64 
[12:28:55] thread b0aa0000 started ("H.264/AVC encoder (libx264)")
[12:28:55] sync: expecting 29 video frames
[12:28:55] sync: first pts is 25033
[12:28:56] macgui: Using preset: Normal (Default)
[12:28:56] sync: got too many frames (58), exiting early
[12:28:56] thread b0aa0000 exited ("H.264/AVC encoder (libx264)")
[12:28:56] reader: done
[12:28:56] thread b05fb000 exited ("reader")
[12:28:56] thread b0833000 exited ("MPEG-2 decoder (libmpeg2)")
[12:28:56] thread b0a1e000 exited ("Renderer")
[12:28:56] thread b0833000 joined ("MPEG-2 decoder (libmpeg2)")
[12:28:56] thread b0a1e000 joined ("Renderer")
[12:28:56] render: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[12:28:56] render: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[12:28:56] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:56] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:56] thread b0aa0000 joined ("H.264/AVC encoder (libx264)")
x264 [info]: slice I:1     Avg QP:24.00  size:  6070  PSNR Mean Y:45.66 U:47.58 V:50.03 Avg:46.44 Global:46.44
x264 [info]: slice P:56    Avg QP:17.20  size:  6524  PSNR Mean Y:48.27 U:47.90 V:49.98 Avg:48.44 Global:48.42
x264 [info]: slice B:1     Avg QP:20.00  size:  2244  PSNR Mean Y:47.11 U:47.47 V:49.76 Avg:47.52 Global:47.52
x264 [info]: mb I  I16..4: 91.7%  0.0%  8.3%
x264 [info]: mb P  I16..4: 42.8%  0.0%  0.0%  P16..4: 24.5%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:32.7%
x264 [info]: mb B  I16..4:  0.2%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  3.4%  0.0%  0.0%  direct:14.7%  skip:81.7%
x264 [info]: final ratefactor: 21.73
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9882010
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:48.201 U:47.887 V:49.975 Avg:48.385 Global:48.361 kb/s:1544.69
[12:28:56] thread b05fb000 joined ("reader")
[12:28:56] thread b06d3000 exited ("muxer")
[12:28:56] thread b06d3000 joined ("muxer")
[12:28:56] fifo_close: trashing 2049 buffer(s)
[12:28:56] fifo_close: trashing 16 buffer(s)
[12:28:56] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:56] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:56] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:56] Freed 2 buffers of size 512
[12:28:56] Freed 4 buffers of size 1024
[12:28:56] Freed 2048 buffers of size 2048
[12:28:56] Freed 0 buffers of size 4096
[12:28:56] Freed 0 buffers of size 8192
[12:28:56] Freed 0 buffers of size 16384
[12:28:56] Freed 0 buffers of size 32768
[12:28:56] Freed 51 buffers of size 518400
[12:28:56] Allocated 30670592 bytes of buffers on this pass and Freed 30637824 bytes, 32768 bytes leaked
[12:28:56] starting job
[12:28:56]  + device /Users/phil/Desktop/Newton Wins Again.vob
[12:28:56]  + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 1
[12:28:56]  + 720x480 -> 702x480, crop 0/0/12/6
[12:28:56]  + video frame rate: 29.970 fps
[12:28:56]  + video bitrate 1500 kbps, pass 2
[12:28:56]  + PixelRatio: 1, width:702, height: 480
[12:28:56]  + encoder x264
[12:28:56]    + x264 options: ref=2:bframes=2:subq=5:me=umh
[12:28:56]  + audio 160 kbps, 48000 Hz
[12:28:56]  + encoder faac
[12:28:56]    + 80bd, Unknown (AC3) (2.0 ch)
[12:28:56]      + Requested mixdown: Stereo (HB_AMIXDOWN_STEREO)
[12:28:56]      + Actual mixdown: Stereo (HB_AMIXDOWN_STEREO)
[12:28:56] thread b05fb000 started ("reader")
[12:28:56]  + output: /Users/phil/Desktop/Newton Wins Again.vob.mp4
[12:28:56] thread b06d3000 started ("muxer")
GUI ERROR dialog: dvd: DVDOpen failed (/Users/phil/Desktop/Newton Wins Again.vob)
[12:28:56] thread b0833000 started ("MPEG-2 decoder (libmpeg2)")
[12:28:56] thread b0a1e000 started ("Renderer")
[12:28:56] encx264: keyint-min: 30, keyint-max: 300
[12:28:56] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 8/9
[12:28:56] encx264: opening libx264 (pass 2)
x264 [warning]: width or height not divisible by 16 (702x480), compression will suffer.
x264 [info]: using SAR=8/9
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 Cache64 
[12:28:56] thread b0aa0000 started ("H.264/AVC encoder (libx264)")
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[12:28:56] thread b0b22000 started ("AC3 decoder")
[12:28:56] thread b0ba4000 started ("AAC encoder (libfaac)")
[12:28:56] sync: expecting 29 video frames
[12:28:56] sync: first pts is 25033
[12:28:56] macgui: Using preset: Normal (Default)
[12:28:57] sync: got too many frames (58), exiting early
[12:28:58] reader: done
[12:28:58] thread b05fb000 exited ("reader")
[12:28:58] thread b0a1e000 exited ("Renderer")
[12:28:58] thread b0833000 exited ("MPEG-2 decoder (libmpeg2)")
[12:28:58] thread b0833000 joined ("MPEG-2 decoder (libmpeg2)")
[12:28:58] thread b0a1e000 joined ("Renderer")
[12:28:58] render: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[12:28:58] render: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] thread b0b22000 exited ("AC3 decoder")
[12:28:58] thread b0aa0000 exited ("H.264/AVC encoder (libx264)")
[12:28:58] thread b0aa0000 joined ("H.264/AVC encoder (libx264)")
x264 [info]: slice I:1     Avg QP:16.00  size: 20050  PSNR Mean Y:48.24 U:49.36 V:50.87 Avg:48.77 Global:48.77
x264 [info]: slice P:56    Avg QP:16.98  size:  6407  PSNR Mean Y:48.36 U:48.02 V:49.97 Avg:48.53 Global:48.52
x264 [info]: slice B:1     Avg QP:19.00  size:  2956  PSNR Mean Y:47.47 U:47.74 V:49.73 Avg:47.82 Global:47.82
[12:28:58] mux: file size, 422185 bytes
[12:28:58] thread b0ba4000 exited ("AAC encoder (libfaac)")
[12:28:58] mux: track 0, 382423 bytes, 1580.86 kbps
[12:28:58] mux: video bitrate error, +19561 bytes
x264 [info]: [12:28:58] mux: track 1, 36891 bytes, 152.50 kbps
mb I  I16..4: 91.0%  0.0%  9.0%
[12:28:58] mux: overhead, 19.80 bytes per frame
x264 [info]: [12:28:58] thread b06d3000 exited ("muxer")
mb P  I16..4: 39.0%  0.0%  0.0%  P16..4: 23.4%  2.5%  1.7%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:33.4%
x264 [info]: mb B  I16..4:  1.1%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  9.9%  1.7%  3.3%  direct:16.1%  skip:68.0%
x264 [info]: ref P  60.8% 39.2%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9883911
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:48.344 U:48.042 V:49.986 Avg:48.519 Global:48.512 kb/s:1578.39
[12:28:58] thread b0b22000 joined ("AC3 decoder")
[12:28:58] thread b0ba4000 joined ("AAC encoder (libfaac)")
[12:28:58] thread b05fb000 joined ("reader")
[12:28:58] thread b06d3000 joined ("muxer")
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 2049 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 16 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 0 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 97 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 15 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 16 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] fifo_close: trashing 16 buffer(s)
[12:28:58] Freed 2 buffers of size 512
[12:28:58] Freed 4 buffers of size 1024
[12:28:58] Freed 2048 buffers of size 2048
[12:28:58] Freed 0 buffers of size 4096
[12:28:58] Freed 0 buffers of size 8192
[12:28:58] Freed 34 buffers of size 16384
[12:28:58] Freed 0 buffers of size 32768
[12:28:58] Freed 51 buffers of size 518400
[12:28:58] Allocated 31194880 bytes of buffers on this pass and Freed 31194880 bytes, 0 bytes leaked
[12:28:58] thread b0579000 exited ("work")
[12:28:58] thread b0579000 joined ("work")
[12:28:58] libhb: work result = 0

I guess the fact that HB doesn't do its stuff on this .vob file makes my inquiry kind of dumb, but maybe someone reading this has a workaround, some way to create an .ifo, or ... anything.

I tried using Toast to burn a new disc from the .vob and it punts with an I/O error (disc probably copy protected ... which I can't understand, given the source)

If I use VLC to save a stream, it doesn't deinterlace it and it looks like crap. These are old dance performances I want to get up on the YouTube to share with the performers of 25 years ago.

Thanks for any tips,

sitenoise

[sitenoise]

I'd love an authoritative response of "You are out of luck with no .ifo file" or "HB should be able to handle it, you've probably got bad vob files" so I can stop holding my breath. Doesn't seem like it would take too much effort.

Can HB Work a .vob file with no companion .ifo file? It's a yes or no question fer cryin' out loud ...

[trondmm]

I'd love an authoritative response of "You are out of luck with no .ifo file" or "HB should be able to handle it, you've probably got bad vob files" so I can stop holding my breath. Doesn't seem like it would take too much effort.

Can HB Work a .vob file with no companion .ifo file? It's a yes or no question fer cryin' out loud ...

I have no idea. Why don't you try one of your successful .vob-files and move the .ifo out of the way?

[realityking]

In general HandBrake accepts vobs since 0.9.0. I'd suggest you try the most recent snapshot.

[sitenoise]

I have no idea. Why don't you try one of your successful .vob-files and move the .ifo out of the way?

Damn! So the answer is apparently yes. I grabbed a couple solo vobs off a real DVD and HB reads what appear to be proper time sigs.

I'll add this bit of trivia about the "successful" discs the Panasonic spit out ... There's no Finder access to the files on the disc, so I couldn't check one of those vobs. HB is able to rip and convert from them, however. So it seems that either the Panasonic wrote bad vobs to disc and that's what prevented finalization, or my file recovery tool left me with bad vobs. Either way, damn.

thanks, trondmm, for suggesting what now makes me feel like an idiot for not thinking of in the first place ...