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chrisnewbold
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PAL Blu-Ray Ripping

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Hi everyone

In the past I've ripped all my Doctor Who Blu-Rays to mp4 for streaming on Apple TV. UK TV like this is 25fps interlaced to give a 'studio video' look. its important for me to preserve this. I did this effectively using handbrake, and the deinterlace BOB filter.

I am now trying to rip some Blu-ray versions with better picture quality (but obviously still reduce the file size). I'm using HQ 1080p preset and again deinterlacing with BOB. No joy. The video still loses motion clarity as if frames are halved.

Any tips on the best settings? Should I use deinterlace at all? the video seems to be a 25 frame rate, yet the HD presets I have are 30/60fps.. what are the optimal frame rates and deinterlace settings, please?


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HandBrake Activity Log for Session: 2020-08-22T21:20:50Z
Handbrake Version: 1.3.3 (2020061300)
Carnival Of Monsters Decomb BOB mp4.m4v
Preset: Blu-ray (Modified)
[22:20:50] macgui: QueueCore scanning specifically for title: 4
[22:20:50] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690 CPU @ 3.50GHz
[22:20:50]  - Intel microarchitecture Haswell
[22:20:50]  - logical processor count: 4
[22:20:50] hb_scan: path=/Volumes/Media Drive/Video Projects/Doctor Who/Ripped DVDs/Carnival.iso, title_index=4
[22:20:50] scan: BD has 73 title(s)
[22:20:50] bd: scanning title 4
[22:20:50] bd: playlist 00021.MPLS
[22:20:50] bd: duration is 01:38:15 (5895200 ms)
[22:20:50] bd: video id=0x1011, stream type=H.264, format 1080i
[22:20:50] bd: aspect = 16:9
[22:20:50] bd: audio id=0x711100, lang=English (DTS), 3cc=eng
[22:20:50] bd: audio id=0x1100, lang=English (DTS-HD MA), 3cc=eng
[22:20:50] bd: audio id=0x711101, lang=English (DTS), 3cc=eng
[22:20:50] bd: audio id=0x1101, lang=English (DTS-HD MA), 3cc=eng
[22:20:50] bd: audio id=0x711102, lang=English (DTS), 3cc=eng
[22:20:50] bd: audio id=0x1102, lang=English (DTS-HD MA), 3cc=eng
[22:20:50] bd: subtitle id=0x1200, lang=English [PGS], 3cc=eng
[22:20:50] bd: subtitle id=0x1201, lang=English [PGS], 3cc=eng
[22:20:50] bd: chap 1, 175960 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 2, 346120 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 3, 319960 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 4, 327560 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 5, 268720 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 6, 51680 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 7, 222360 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 8, 409520 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 9, 225480 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 10, 329640 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 11, 220200 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 12, 51400 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 13, 242520 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 14, 289320 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 15, 297880 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 16, 357480 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 17, 254400 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 18, 51000 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 19, 238080 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 20, 450280 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 21, 262080 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 22, 258240 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 23, 194200 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 24, 50880 ms
[22:20:50] bd: chap 25, 240 ms
[22:20:50] bd: title 4 has 25 chapters
[22:20:50] scan: decoding previews for title 4
[22:20:50] scan: title angle(s) 1
[22:20:50] scan: audio 0x711100: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS) (2.0 ch) (1536 kbps)
[22:20:50] scan: audio 0x1100: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1 English (DTS-HD MA) (2.0 ch)
[22:20:50] scan: audio 0x711101: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS) (2.0 ch) (1536 kbps)
[22:20:50] scan: audio 0x1101: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1 English (DTS-HD MA) (2.0 ch)
[22:20:50] scan: audio 0x711102: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS) (2.0 ch) (1536 kbps)
[22:20:50] scan: audio 0x1102: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1 English (DTS-HD MA) (2.0 ch)
[22:20:52] scan: 10 previews, 1920x1080, 25.000 fps, autocrop = 4/4/246/238, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[22:20:52] stream: 10 good frames, 0 errors (0%)
[22:20:52] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[22:20:52] macgui: QueueCore scan done
[22:20:52] macgui: QueueCore started encoding Carnival Of Monsters Decomb BOB mp4.m4v
[22:20:52] macgui: QueueCore with preset Blu-ray (Modified)
[22:20:52] Starting work at: Sat Aug 22 22:20:52 2020

[22:20:52] 1 job(s) to process
[22:20:52] Starting Task: Subtitle Scan
[22:20:52] job configuration:
[22:20:52]  * source
[22:20:52]    + /Volumes/Media Drive/Video Projects/Doctor Who/Ripped DVDs/Carnival.iso
[22:20:52]    + title 4, chapter(s) 1 to 25
[22:20:52]  * destination
[22:20:52]    + /Users/iMac/Library/Containers/fr.handbrake.HandBrake/Data/Movies/Carnival Of Monsters Decomb BOB mp4.m4v
[22:20:52]    + container: MPEG-4 (libavformat)
[22:20:52]      + chapter markers
[22:20:52]  * video track
[22:20:52]    + decoder: h264
[22:20:52]      + bitrate 200 kbps
[22:20:52]    + filters
[22:20:52]      + Comb Detect (mode=3:spatial-metric=2:motion-thresh=1:spatial-thresh=1:filter-mode=2:block-thresh=40:block-width=16:block-height=16)
[22:20:52]      + Decomb (mode=55)
[22:20:52]      + Framerate Shaper (mode=2:rate=27000000/1080000)
[22:20:52]        + frame rate: 25.000 fps -> peak rate limited to 25.000 fps
[22:20:52]      + Crop and Scale (width=1280:height=720:crop-top=4:crop-bottom=4:crop-left=246:crop-right=238)
[22:20:52]        + source: 1920 * 1080, crop (4/4/246/238): 1436 * 1072, scale: 1280 * 720
[22:20:52]    + Output geometry
[22:20:52]      + storage dimensions: 1280 x 720
[22:20:52]      + pixel aspect ratio: 3231 : 4288
[22:20:52]      + display dimensions: 964 x 720
[22:20:52]  * Foreign Audio Search: Passthrough, Forced Only, Default
[22:20:52]    + subtitle, English [PGS] (track 0, id 0x1200, Picture)
[22:20:52]    + subtitle, English [PGS] (track 1, id 0x1201, Picture)
[22:20:52] sync: expecting 147380 video frames
[22:26:26] bd: End of title
[22:26:26] reader: done. 10 scr changes
[22:26:26] work: average encoding speed for job is 0.000000 fps
[22:26:26] comb detect: heavy 0 | light 0 | uncombed 0 | total 0
[22:26:26] decomb: deinterlaced 0 | blended 0 | unfiltered 0 | total 0
[22:26:26] vfr: 0 frames output, 0 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
[22:26:26] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[22:26:26] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[22:26:26] stream: 147380 good frames, 0 errors (0%)
[22:26:26] h264-decoder done: 0 frames, 1 decoder errors
[22:26:26] sync: got 0 frames, 147380 expected
[22:26:26] Subtitle track 0 (id 0x1200) 'English [PGS]': 1587 hits (0 forced)
[22:26:26] Subtitle track 1 (id 0x1201) 'English [PGS]': 752 hits (0 forced)
[22:26:26] No candidate detected during subtitle scan
[22:26:26] Starting Task: Encoding Pass
[22:26:26] job configuration:
[22:26:26]  * source
[22:26:26]    + /Volumes/Media Drive/Video Projects/Doctor Who/Ripped DVDs/Carnival.iso
[22:26:26]    + title 4, chapter(s) 1 to 25
[22:26:26]  * destination
[22:26:26]    + /Users/iMac/Library/Containers/fr.handbrake.HandBrake/Data/Movies/Carnival Of Monsters Decomb BOB mp4.m4v
[22:26:26]    + container: MPEG-4 (libavformat)
[22:26:26]      + chapter markers
[22:26:26]  * video track
[22:26:26]    + decoder: h264
[22:26:26]      + bitrate 200 kbps
[22:26:26]    + filters
[22:26:26]      + Comb Detect (mode=3:spatial-metric=2:motion-thresh=1:spatial-thresh=1:filter-mode=2:block-thresh=40:block-width=16:block-height=16)
[22:26:26]      + Decomb (mode=55)
[22:26:26]      + Framerate Shaper (mode=2:rate=27000000/1080000)
[22:26:26]        + frame rate: 25.000 fps -> peak rate limited to 25.000 fps
[22:26:26]      + Crop and Scale (width=1280:height=720:crop-top=4:crop-bottom=4:crop-left=246:crop-right=238)
[22:26:26]        + source: 1920 * 1080, crop (4/4/246/238): 1436 * 1072, scale: 1280 * 720
[22:26:26]    + Output geometry
[22:26:26]      + storage dimensions: 1280 x 720
[22:26:26]      + pixel aspect ratio: 3231 : 4288
[22:26:26]      + display dimensions: 964 x 720
[22:26:26]    + encoder: MPEG-4 (libavcodec)
[22:26:26]      + quality: 8.00 (QP)
[22:26:26]      + color profile: 1-1-1
[22:26:26]  * audio track 1
[22:26:26]    + decoder: English (DTS) (2.0 ch) (1536 kbps) (track 1, id 0x711100)
[22:26:26]      + bitrate: 1536 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]    + mixdown: Stereo
[22:26:26]    + dither: triangular
[22:26:26]    + encoder: AAC (Apple AudioToolbox)
[22:26:26]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]  * audio track 2
[22:26:26]    + decoder: English (DTS-HD MA) (2.0 ch) (track 2, id 0x1100)
[22:26:26]      + samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]    + mixdown: Stereo
[22:26:26]    + dither: triangular
[22:26:26]    + encoder: AAC (Apple AudioToolbox)
[22:26:26]      + bitrate: 320 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]  * audio track 3
[22:26:26]    + decoder: English (DTS) (2.0 ch) (1536 kbps) (track 3, id 0x711101)
[22:26:26]      + bitrate: 1536 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]    + mixdown: Stereo
[22:26:26]    + dither: triangular
[22:26:26]    + encoder: AAC (Apple AudioToolbox)
[22:26:26]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]  * audio track 4
[22:26:26]    + decoder: English (DTS-HD MA) (2.0 ch) (track 4, id 0x1101)
[22:26:26]      + samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]    + mixdown: Stereo
[22:26:26]    + dither: triangular
[22:26:26]    + encoder: AAC (Apple AudioToolbox)
[22:26:26]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]  * audio track 5
[22:26:26]    + decoder: English (DTS) (2.0 ch) (1536 kbps) (track 5, id 0x711102)
[22:26:26]      + bitrate: 1536 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]    + mixdown: Stereo
[22:26:26]    + dither: triangular
[22:26:26]    + encoder: AAC (Apple AudioToolbox)
[22:26:26]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]  * audio track 6
[22:26:26]    + decoder: English (DTS-HD MA) (2.0 ch) (track 6, id 0x1102)
[22:26:26]      + samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:26]    + mixdown: Stereo
[22:26:26]    + dither: triangular
[22:26:26]    + encoder: AAC (Apple AudioToolbox)
[22:26:26]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[22:26:27] sync: expecting 147380 video frames
[22:26:27] encavcodecInit: MPEG-4 ASP encoder
[22:26:27] encavcodec: encoding at constant quantizer 944
[22:26:27] encavcodec: encoding with stored aspect 3231/4288
[22:26:27] sync: first pts video is 0
[22:26:27] sync: "Chapter 1" (1) at frame 1 time 0
[22:26:27] sync: first pts audio 0x711100 is 0
[22:26:27] sync: first pts audio 0x1100 is 0
[22:26:27] sync: first pts audio 0x711101 is 0
[22:26:27] sync: first pts audio 0x1101 is 0
[22:26:27] sync: first pts audio 0x711102 is 0
[22:26:27] sync: first pts audio 0x1102 is 0
[22:28:53] sync: "Chapter 2" (2) at frame 4382 time 15771600
[22:33:31] sync: "Chapter 3" (3) at frame 13038 time 46933200
[22:37:57] sync: "Chapter 4" (4) at frame 21029 time 75700800
[22:42:30] sync: "Chapter 5" (5) at frame 29221 time 105192000
[22:46:16] sync: "Chapter 6" (6) at frame 35957 time 129441600
[22:46:34] 1490.000000s: Video -> Film
[22:46:34] sync: "Chapter 7" (7) at frame 37251 time 134100000
[22:49:17] sync: "Chapter 8" (8) at frame 42805 time 154094400
[22:54:23] sync: "Chapter 9" (9) at frame 53035 time 190922400
[22:57:38] sync: "Chapter 10" (10) at frame 58677 time 211233600
[23:02:17] sync: "Chapter 11" (11) at frame 66922 time 240915600
[23:04:33] sync: "Chapter 12" (12) at frame 72429 time 260740800
[23:04:51] sync: "Chapter 13" (13) at frame 73716 time 265374000
[23:07:07] sync: "Chapter 14" (14) at frame 79775 time 287186400
[23:11:03] sync: "Chapter 15" (15) at frame 87003 time 313207200
[23:15:05] sync: "Chapter 16" (16) at frame 94438 time 339973200
[23:19:47] sync: "Chapter 17" (17) at frame 103386 time 372186000
[23:23:12] sync: "Chapter 18" (18) at frame 109754 time 395110800
[23:23:30] sync: "Chapter 19" (19) at frame 111031 time 399708720
[23:26:34] sync: "Chapter 20" (20) at frame 116966 time 421074720
[23:33:25] sync: "Chapter 21" (21) at frame 128220 time 461589120
[23:37:08] sync: "Chapter 22" (22) at frame 134772 time 485176320
[23:40:56] sync: "Chapter 23" (23) at frame 141235 time 508443120
[23:43:46] sync: "Chapter 24" (24) at frame 146101 time 525960720
[23:44:04] bd: End of title
[23:44:04] reader: done. 10 scr changes
[23:44:04] sync: "Chapter 25" (25) at frame 147366 time 530514720
[23:44:05] work: average encoding speed for job is 31.627548 fps
[23:44:05] comb detect: heavy 120456 | light 11567 | uncombed 15357 | total 147380
[23:44:05] decomb: deinterlaced 240912 | blended 23134 | unfiltered 15357 | total 279403
[23:44:05] vfr: 147381 frames output, 132022 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
[23:44:05] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[23:44:05] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[23:44:05] stream: 147380 good frames, 0 errors (0%)
[23:44:05] dca-decoder done: 552677 frames, 0 decoder errors
[23:44:05] dca-decoder done: 552677 frames, 0 decoder errors
[23:44:05] dca-decoder done: 552677 frames, 0 decoder errors
[23:44:05] dca-decoder done: 552677 frames, 0 decoder errors
[23:44:05] dca-decoder done: 552677 frames, 0 decoder errors
[23:44:05] dca-decoder done: 552677 frames, 0 decoder errors
[23:44:05] h264-decoder done: 147380 frames, 0 decoder errors
[23:44:05] sync: got 147380 frames, 147380 expected
[23:44:05] sync: framerate min 20.833 fps, max 25.000 fps, avg 25.000 fps
[23:44:05] mux: track 0, 147381 frames, 962405772 bytes, 1306.00 kbps, fifo 2048
[23:44:05] mux: track 1, 276341 frames, 92202690 bytes, 125.12 kbps, fifo 4096
[23:44:05] mux: track 2, 276341 frames, 242418255 bytes, 328.97 kbps, fifo 4096
[23:44:05] mux: track 3, 276341 frames, 120298404 bytes, 163.25 kbps, fifo 4096
[23:44:05] mux: track 4, 276341 frames, 120302965 bytes, 163.25 kbps, fifo 4096
[23:44:05] mux: track 5, 276341 frames, 122088411 bytes, 165.68 kbps, fifo 4096
[23:44:05] mux: track 6, 276341 frames, 122132181 bytes, 165.74 kbps, fifo 4096
[23:44:05] Finished work at: Sat Aug 22 23:44:05 2020

[23:44:05] libhb: work result = 0
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Re: PAL Blu-Ray Ripping

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chrisnewbold wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:50 am

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[23:44:05] vfr: 147381 frames output, 132022 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
You've enabled bobbing (takes 25fps interlaced input, outputs 50fps progressive) but set the output framerate to 25fps peak in HandBrake, which is then dropping many frames as a result.

You probably want to set the framerate to one of "Same as source + Variable Framerate" (no frames dropped nor duplicated), "50 + Constant Framerate" (drop or duplicate as necessary to reach 50fps) or "60 + Peak Framerate" (no frames duplicated, only drop frames when the rate exceeds 60 fps, which you can use with both PAL and NTSC sources).

Note: because decomb does interlace detection, it will only deinterlace frames with noticeable combing artifacts, so from a 25fps interlaced input, you won't get exactly 50fps output (in the video above, you would have gotten an average of 47.4fps with "Same as source + Variable").
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