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wrong subtitle names

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:20 pm
by patimages
Hi,
I am on Mac (lastest version) and handbrake (latest version) and have a long-lasting issue. When I watch a movie in VLC with several embedded subtitles, I can select the subtitles I want by name (i.e. : "French forced" or "French full"). When I open the same movie in handbrake and wish to burn one of the subtitles set, the names are different as compared to VLC (usually, the "French [UTF-8]" name is used for each subtitles...No way to differentiate the subtitles then). Is there any way to fix this issue (I have had it for a long time across different versions)?
Many thanks for your help !

Re: wrong subtitle names

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:46 pm
by Woodstock
VLC provides you with a subtitle track number that is the same as displayed in handbrake.

Re: wrong subtitle names

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:12 am
by patimages
Thanks for your reply but it is not true in my case : see the attached pict. On top, VLC where the "forced" label is mentioned in VLC. At the bottom, the same video file opened in Handbrake : no "forced label). In this particular case, not an issue since there is only one subtitle set but when there are several, no way to know which is which as Handbrake name them all "French UTF8"...

http://mm.unice.fr/kv/1.jpg

Re: wrong subtitle names

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:20 pm
by Woodstock
Ah, so VLC has modified their program to reduce its utility even further... Older versions put the track number up, then the meta data about the track.

Unless that's a "helpful" feature of the Mac version; I'll ask a friend who has one later today.

I will say that I've not seen a subtitle track that has "forced" in its meta data. They might BE the "forced" subtitles, but it is usually tagged just with the language. Are you, by chance, having VLC only show tagged-as-forced subtitles, and the track itself is just "French"?

Re: wrong subtitle names

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:38 pm
by patimages
Not sure of what you mean : VLC does what I need... I get the subtitles meta and then the language (I would not mind the other way around). Concerning the "forced" label : it is very common. Usually, you get "full" (to have the whole movie with subtitles), "forced" (when you watch a movie with parts in a foreign language that are then translated) or "hearing impaired".

In any case, I am satisfied with VLC. I would like to get the same in Handbrake. In other words, can we get metadata as a track description ?

Thanks for you help !

Re: wrong subtitle names

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:02 pm
by Woodstock
What I'm trying to figure out is where VLC is getting that ''Forced" label it is displaying in your screen shot. I deal with subtitles daily, and have not seen "Forced" displayed by VLC; just "Track NN" and the language.

Although I have not installed 3.x, due to the "less than polite" reviews I've read.

Re: wrong subtitle names

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:32 pm
by Deleted User 11865
HandBrake doesn't set the Matroska "forced track" tag anyway, so it's not surprising you would have never seen it.