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microhrd
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Forced Subtitles

Post by microhrd » Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 am

While newer systems can play MKVs, I got into the habit of encoding all of my videos into MP4s since they can be played on virtually any format or system. It's when I have an English movie with occasional foreign dialogue that I run into problems.

The MKV file clearly has this forced subtitle track already present, since the English subtitles appear during the foreign dialogue, but when I click on "Foreign Audio Search", "Forced" and "Burned In" under the "Subtitles" tab, they do not appear in the Handbrake-generated MP4.

If I'm able to find an "srt" subtitle file and add that, Handbrake will not allow me to check "Forced" under Subtitles and the problem still remains.

Has anyone come across a viable solution for this?

I'm running Handbrake 1.1.0 on OSX High Sierra 10.13.4

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Re: Forced Subtitles

Post by rollin_eng » Fri May 25, 2018 12:13 pm

Could you please post your logs, instructions can be found here:

https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/hel ... y-log.html

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Re: Forced Subtitles

Post by microhrd » Fri May 25, 2018 12:22 pm

Is this what you need?

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[08:17:53] macgui: Handbrake Version: 1.1.0  (2018040700)
[08:17:53] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[08:17:53] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[08:18:00] macgui: trying to open a folder or file
[08:18:00] macgui: ScanCore scanning titles with a duration of 10 seconds or more
[08:18:00] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5650U CPU @ 2.20GHz
[08:18:00]  - Intel microarchitecture Broadwell
[08:18:00]  - logical processor count: 4
[08:18:00] hb_scan: path=/Users/Documents/Vuze Downloads/Bombshell.The.Hedy.Lamarr.Story.2017.1080p.BluRay.x264-CiNEFiLE[rarbg]/Bombshell - The Hedy Lamarr Story.mkv, title_index=0
udfread ERROR: ECMA 167 Volume Recognition failed
disc.c:323: failed opening UDF image /Users/Documents/Vuze Downloads/Bombshell.The.Hedy.Lamarr.Story.2017.1080p.BluRay.x264-CiNEFiLE[rarbg]/Bombshell - The Hedy Lamarr Story.mkv
disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV/index.bdmv
disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV/BACKUP/index.bdmv
[08:18:00] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 5.0.3
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[08:18:00] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
Input #0, matroska,webm, from '/Users/Documents/Vuze Downloads/Bombshell.The.Hedy.Lamarr.Story.2017.1080p.BluRay.x264-CiNEFiLE[rarbg]/Bombshell - The Hedy Lamarr Story.mkv':
  Duration: 01:28:55.19, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A
    Chapter #0:0: start 0.000000, end 568.276000
    Metadata:
      title           : 00:00:00.000
    Chapter #0:1: start 568.276000, end 1036.494000
    Metadata:
      title           : 00:09:28.276
    Chapter #0:2: start 1036.494000, end 1596.637000
    Metadata:
      title           : 00:17:16.494
    Chapter #0:3: start 1596.637000, end 2203.201000
    Metadata:
      title           : 00:26:36.637
    Chapter #0:4: start 2203.201000, end 2819.692000
    Metadata:
      title           : 00:36:43.201
    Chapter #0:5: start 2819.692000, end 3446.276000
    Metadata:
      title           : 00:46:59.692
    Chapter #0:6: start 3446.276000, end 3812.726000
    Metadata:
      title           : 00:57:26.276
    Chapter #0:7: start 3812.726000, end 4426.339000
    Metadata:
      title           : 01:03:32.726
    Chapter #0:8: start 4426.339000, end 4876.330000
    Metadata:
      title           : 01:13:46.339
    Chapter #0:9: start 4876.330000, end 5335.190000
    Metadata:
      title           : 01:21:16.330
    Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (High)
      yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9
      23.98 fps, 1k tbn (default)
    Metadata:
      BPS             : 9046089
      BPS-eng         : 9046089
      DURATION        : 01:28:55.130000000
      DURATION-eng    : 01:28:55.130000000
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES: 127915
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 127915
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 6032757767
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 6032757767
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP: mkvmerge v8.6.1 ('Flying') 64bit
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: mkvmerge v8.6.1 ('Flying') 64bit
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC: 2018-04-25 12:30:25
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-04-25 12:30:25
      _STATISTICS_TAGS: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
    Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: dts (DTS)
      48000 Hz, 5.1, fltp, 1536 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
      BPS             : 1508999
      BPS-eng         : 1508999
      DURATION        : 01:28:55.190000000
      DURATION-eng    : 01:28:55.190000000
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES: 500174
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 500174
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 1006350088
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 1006350088
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP: mkvmerge v8.6.1 ('Flying') 64bit
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: mkvmerge v8.6.1 ('Flying') 64bit
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC: 2018-04-25 12:30:25
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2018-04-25 12:30:25
      _STATISTICS_TAGS: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
[08:18:00] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[08:18:00] scan: audio 0x1: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[08:18:00] scan: 10 previews, 1920x1080, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 0/0/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[08:18:00] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[08:18:00] macgui: ScanCore scan done
Last edited by Rodeo on Fri May 25, 2018 12:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Forced Subtitles

Post by Woodstock » Fri May 25, 2018 12:58 pm

Forced subtitles is a vague concept in the minds of people who author disks and SRT files. While you can tag subtitles within a track as being "forced", few do it; the usual method is to provide a separate track that contains "just" the forced subtitles. SRT files and ASS tracks usually assume you're dealing with an original, non-dubbed title, and will need all the subtitles.

Foreign Audio Search looks for the flags, OR a subtitle track that has only 10% or fewer subtitles compared to others, if there are no forced flags. If you're not using FAS, the "Forced only" selection ONLY looks for the flag... and I have not seen many titles (other than Avatar) that actually use the forced flag.

It gets even more random when dealing with downloaded video like your example - you have no idea what the person who uploaded the file did to it before you got it. But, again, separate subtitle tracks are going to assume non-dubbed video, and include everything.

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Re: Forced Subtitles

Post by BradleyS » Sat May 26, 2018 8:38 pm

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