3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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Mr_Nick666
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3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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Please describe what you would like to see added to HandBrake:

A way to mux in and, preferably, burn in a 3D ".sup" subtitle to a film.

Why would you like to see this added:

The ability to be able to add subtitles to 3D HSBS or HOU rips would be great. Forced subtitles would be really handy to be able to burn in as not all media players acknowledge muxed in subs, even if they're set to "forced".

What version of HandBrake are you currently running:

0.10.5.0 64 bit

What operating system and version and you currently running (e.g. OSX 10.11, Windows 7, Ubuntu 14):

Windows 7, 64 bit

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Re: 3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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What is .SUP file format?

The .sup file extension stands for subtitle bitmap image extracted from a Blu-ray movie; it contains subtitle text graphics that are displayed during movie playback. The .sup subtitles are encoded with PGS codec, and sometimes known as PGS subtitles. It can be used for adding DVD subtitles to movies with authoring programs such as IfoEdit.
So, you're looking to burn in Blu-ray PGS subtitles? For 2D files, handbrake does that now. Since handbrake doesn't do 3D, that part would be kind of difficult.

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Re: 3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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Woodstock wrote:
What is .SUP file format?

The .sup file extension stands for subtitle bitmap image extracted from a Blu-ray movie; it contains subtitle text graphics that are displayed during movie playback. The .sup subtitles are encoded with PGS codec, and sometimes known as PGS subtitles. It can be used for adding DVD subtitles to movies with authoring programs such as IfoEdit.
So, you're looking to burn in Blu-ray PGS subtitles? For 2D files, handbrake does that now. Since handbrake doesn't do 3D, that part would be kind of difficult.
Since I'm talking about 3D HSBS (or HOU, which seems less used) the .sup subtitles have two sets of subtitles catering for the split 3D image.

This type of thing Image

I've no idea if theres a way to make an .srt duplicate for 3D (you'd have to say whether it's 16:9 or 21:9 which would probably be an pain to code) . I've only ever seen .sup files used for this.

I use 3DSubtitler to generate them
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Re: 3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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HandBrake doesn't really have any kind of 3D support whatsoever. This kind of feature is not on the roadmap (sorry), though as usual, patches welcome :)

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Re: 3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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If you mux them in with mkvmerge, HB should let you burn them in. Although HB doesn't support 3D so you'll just get 2D or unflagged SBS.

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Re: 3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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Rodeo wrote:
Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:01 pm
HandBrake doesn't really have any kind of 3D support whatsoever. This kind of feature is not on the roadmap (sorry), though as usual, patches welcome :)
Just out of curiosity, what would it take to put 3D on the roadmap? Alternatively, what type of patch would be supported to enable this capability?

I'm sure I'm not the only 3D enthusiast looking for this type of support from our favorite program.

- Dave

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Re: 3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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metaldave wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:47 pm
Just out of curiosity, what would it take to put 3D on the roadmap?
Developer interest.
metaldave wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:47 pm
Alternatively, what type of patch would be supported to enable this capability?
A github pull request.

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Re: 3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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You would need to make patches upstream to libav to add support for MVC 3D before the subject of subtitles for 3D could come into scope. Being able to handle "3D subtitles" without handling "3D video" is rather useless.

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Re: 3D HSHS/HOU ".sup" Subtitle Support

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mduell wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:35 pm
metaldave wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:47 pm
Just out of curiosity, what would it take to put 3D on the roadmap?
Developer interest.
If I can inspire interest, just tell me where to send the junk food and/or gifts.

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