Saving HandBrake's settings as a project

Kicer · Post by **Kicer** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:14 pm

Hi

Very often when I encode movie with HandBrake it takes me a several attempts to end up with optimal set of options and settings.
The problem is that usually I do not have time to perform it in one session, so I have to recreate all my settings each time I launch Handbrake to continue another try of my encoding process.

So my suggestion is to add "save/load project" options which would store and restore all settings in Handbrake.

Post by **s55** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:15 pm

HandBrake already has presets which store encode settings.

Kicer · Post by **Kicer** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:32 pm

Yeah, but it doesn't store all possible settings so I need to remember to restore them manualy

Post by **JohnAStebbins** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:43 pm

Kicer wrote:Yeah, but it doesn't store all possible settings so I need to remember to restore them manualy

What would you like to be saved that isn't for example?

*All* relevant settings should already be stored when a preset is stored. Other things are specific to the source input file and make no sense to store. An argument could be made for saving the current contents of the encoding queue, but if this is what you meant, you were not being clear.

Kicer · Post by **Kicer** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:08 pm

For example audio and subtitle settings are not stored. "All the other things which are specific to the source" as you called it, are things I would I'd like to be stored as a project settings.

Anyway, when we talk about "Presets". This is not quite good place for me for storing settings of each movie I encode. I treat this as a small set of at most a 3-4 base settings. While "project" would be an unique, tuned set of settings for particular movie. If I want to save it each time I've encoded movie, then I can save it as a project file so I can return to it in the future. I cannot imagine to store settings of each movie in "Presets".

Post by **JohnAStebbins** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:22 pm

What version of HandBrake are you using? Audio and Subtitle settings *are* stored in latest HandBrake. But the settings that are stored are in the "Audio Defaults" and "Subtitle Defaults" pane. Storing these in a preset would allow you to apply the same audio and subtitle preferences to any source that you load. Where this pane is depends on which platform you are on. Windows platform has a "defaults" button to select the pane on the corresponding audio and subtitle tabs. Linux platform has separate tabs labeled appropriately. I don't know off hand how Mac UI does it, but it'll be similar.

As I said, it makes no sense to store "settings" for a particular source unless you are talking about storing the encoding queue, which contains all the encoding parameters that you have specified after loading a source, including things like which audio tracks and subtitle tracks from the source that you have selected. In which case there is a certain amount of merit. I don't know how the other UIs work, but the Linux UI automatically stores the current queue. So if you quit the UI with unprocessed items in the queue, then restart the UI, it will ask you if you want to reload the queue. After reloading the queue, you can continue to edit individual queue items using the "Edit" button in the queue pane. Pressing the Edit button re-loads the currently selected queue job back into the main window so that you can make changes to it.

I think what you are really asking is to store the queue. And as an enhancement, maybe to have a context menu on a queue item that allows storing just that one item as it's own "queue" file.

mduell · Post by **mduell** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:15 am

A post without required logs and there's questions about what platform/version the user is on? You don't say!

Mr_Generic · Post by **Mr_Generic** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:24 pm

Give it a rest, mduell. No one likes sarcastic, forum-police remarks.

Punk.

Post by **JohnAStebbins** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:10 pm

Mr_Generic wrote:Give it a rest, mduell. No one likes sarcastic, forum-police remarks.

No, mduell is correctly pointing out that a log would have shortcut the back and forth question and answer session necessary to extract the information required from the OP in order to provide an accurate response.

We make every effort to inform users of these forums of this by putting this requirement in our forum rules and highlight it in RED at the top of every support forum. And yet almost everyone neglects to read and follow these instructions. So highlighting the instructions as mduell does is a perfectly appropriate response.

Kicer · Post by **Kicer** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:41 pm

JohnAStebbins wrote:We make every effort to inform users of these forums of this by putting this requirement in our forum rules and highlight it in RED at the top of every support forum. And yet almost everyone neglects to read and follow these instructions. So highlighting the instructions as mduell does is a perfectly appropriate response.

https://handbrake.fr/community.php goes here -> viewforum.php?f=26 and there is no single sticky topic about logs

Anyway my OS is Linux (if it can help anyone somehow).

But getting back to primary topic: let me show you a short user story which describes my work:
1. I choose my source - a DVD movie, I setup all parameters like video quality, chapters, audio list, subtitlies, I save them as a preset and I run encode.
2. When it's done I usually turn off my PC
3. Next day I do review of what was done and I'm not happy. I run HB again, I load my preset and what can I see: chapters range is different than in #1, subtitle list and audio lists are empty, probably some other minor differents I have not noticed.
4. I setup it all once again, I run encode.
5. as in #2
6. I do review and I can see I forgot to restore something properly (lets sey default subtitle language).
7. I'm angry I lost hours of work
8. goto 4
9. It happens I accidentaly click on wrong preset (or even right one, but after some changes) which causes all my not saved changes to get lost.
10. After a few days It's finaly what I wanted. But very often I could have done in shorter time if I could store/restore all settings related to particular movie in a safe way (project concept).

Once again: Presets are fine but IMHO they have different purpose than saving settings for one movie.

I hope now I'm a little bit more clear about my situation.

Post by **JohnAStebbins** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:59 pm

This is a use case where saving the queue would be helpful. It's easy enough to implement, so as long as other developers don't object, I think we should accept this request.

There is a work-around for your use case that you could use for now. In $(HOME)/.config/ghb/ directory you will find the old queue file from your last encode session. It is named queue.<pid> where pid is a number that was the process id of the last ghb session. If you edit that file and search for "job_status" you will see that completed jobs have a job_status==4. If you change the job_status of all jobs in that file to 0, the next time you run ghb it will ask you if you want to reload the queue. Then from the queue window you can "Edit" any jobs you want to re-encode and you can delete any jobs you do not want to re-encode.

Smithcraft · Post by **Smithcraft** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:52 pm

JohnAStebbins wrote:
Mr_Generic wrote:Give it a rest, mduell. No one likes sarcastic, forum-police remarks.
No, mduell is correctly pointing out that a log would have shortcut the back and forth question and answer session necessary to extract the information required from the OP in order to provide an accurate response.

We make every effort to inform users of these forums of this by putting this requirement in our forum rules and highlight it in RED at the top of every support forum. And yet almost everyone neglects to read and follow these instructions. So highlighting the instructions as mduell does is a perfectly appropriate response.

Then the instructions for making a feature request need to be changed to include that a log be included in the post.

As for mduell, I can only presume that Dr Venkman knows why he posts the way he does. However, I have noticed that he has actually been helpful recently, so maybe even Dr Venkman might be wrong.

SC

Kicer · Post by **Kicer** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:24 pm

JohnAStebbins: It's all fine as long as it's clear what does it do. I'm not sure if I would guess that saving queue will allow me to restore all encoding options

I'd rather guess it allows me to run tasks later.

Ripman · Post by **Ripman** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:43 pm

I save a queue file for each HB encode I perform; it's a great feature (see below), and allows for easier editing of encode job attributes (e.g., RF).

A nice addition in the queue window would be a feature that allowed a user to right click in the queue window on any particular entry, and to save a queue file for that respective entry, perhaps with a default to save the queue file in the folder that contains the source. Saving a (master) queue file for all entries in the queue is a very useful feature and should be maintained.

Wild Bunch @ rf=17

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Post by **s55** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:14 pm

Word of warning, that your abusing a feature in a way that's neither supported or recommended. Don't cry when the format changes

Few people have been caught out by past changes and I usually get an ear full of it.

Ripman · Post by **Ripman** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:20 pm

You are right.

I should have explained why I save the queue files, but I was being lazy - sorry about that. Some of the other users want to automate processes that encode hundreds of folders using queue files. One reason I save the queue files is as a reminder of the settings I used for a particular encode job since I am new to HB.

The second reason I save queue files is more complex.

I like to enter 3 or 4 jobs in the queue on Sunday before I leave, and when I get back Friday, I get a few new mkv's. I configure the queue with 3-4 different jobs, and sometimes I need to change the settings for a particular job entry. In my case, under Windows 8.1, when the job gets sent back to the main window, many of the important settings are gone and I need to re-enter them (viz., audio, subs, chapters). I feed HB mkv's from MakeMKV.

I did step-by-step screen shots and also put the scan log in the attached. What I see at the desktop when I click the "edit" icon in the queue window for a particular job entry, and after clearing the dialog, is the following:
1. re-scans the source mkv;
2. video tab is correct;
3. picture tab: no title is selected in the dropdown;
a. picture tab: the chapter dropdowns are empty;
b. picture tab: total time is empty;
c. picture tab: aspect ratio, resolution, crop values, etc. are missing;
4. audio source information is empty for all audio tracks;
5. sub selection is empty; and
6. chapters list is empty.

If I select the title, all audio settings revert to my standard HB defaults. It is the same for the subs tab. I never touch the picture, filters, or chapters tabs, so those are generally correct. It is a little choppy in practice, but not anything serious. I searched around the forum, and something may have been put in a nightly build for this type of GUI issue. So, that's the second reason I save queue files: I can change the RF value without having to use the queue edit function.

Anyway, thanks again. Hopefully I am just abusing the interface and you guys can tell me how to improve my experience.

screen shots and scan log:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n09xcafumeep ... c.zip?dl=0

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