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simonmcnair
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rename profiles please

Post by simonmcnair » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:39 am

Hi all,
I was thinking that the profile options are not too intuitive and I was wondering if a re-jig would work ?

The reason that I say this is that 'Regular' and 'Legacy' seem to be misnomers as you'll still be playing it back on a 'device' anyway. Please can you rename the following ?:

Regular High profile -> (BLU-RAY)
Regular Normal -> (DVD)
Universal -> (Compatible)
ipod Legacy -> (iPod <3rd gen). Just an eg I don't know if 3rd gen is correct or not

What are Classic and/or Normal for ? How do we know ?

My situation is a case in point. I'm encoding BLU-ray for a macmini on OSX with crystal HD to a DTS amp. What setting do I use ? I'm currently using High profile and adding the DTS-passthru and DTS-HD audio settings (or AC3 if DTS is not present) . Is this right ?

I'm just saying that it would make your lives easier, less questions in the forums about what are the ideal blu-ray settings if they were described in the preset as a blu-ray setting then it could stop the question from being asked.

Generally speaking people will rip a DVD or Blu-ray to play on a device this would indicate to me that anything 'normal' would be dvd quality and anything 'high' would be a HD encode with bells and whistles audio.

The device (eg ipad 3) would indicate if upscaling and/or other funky options were chosen ?

I'm just trying to give you my 2p (or 2c) on the UI design ;-). I know Universal, Normal,High & Classic are catch-all's for non specific devices, but They don't describe what they do very well.

thank you.

Simon

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Re: rename profiles please

Post by Rodeo » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:03 am

Except the High Profile preset isn't a Blu-ray specific preset - it should work for Blu-ray, DVD and other sources. Same thing for Normal (which basically a faster, lower quality, slightly more compatible version of the High Profile preset).

"iPod Legacy" could be renamed to "iPod 5G", and I guess Universal could be renamed "Apple Universal".

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Re: rename profiles please

Post by simonmcnair » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:31 am

Rodeo,
Good points well made.

-So why is it called high profile rather than 'High Quality' ?
-when should I use high quality over normal quality ?
-And the purpose of classic ?
-Surely anything that isn't present generation should be prefixed with 'legacy' ?

I'm guessing I'm talking to myself and you find this obvious. Time to get myself a brighter brain.

Simon

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Re: rename profiles please

Post by jamiemlaw » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:00 pm

"Profile" is an established term, which refers to the amount of computation required to decode and play a video file. Older, less powerful devices do not have the speed to decode video files with lots of B-frames, or CABAC entropy encoding in real time, whereas newer devices can. The higher the profile, the more computation is required to decode the video.

Profile generally doesn't have much of a bearing on quality: moreso on file size.

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Re: rename profiles please

Post by Rodeo » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:04 pm

simonmcnair wrote:-And the purpose of classic ?
HandBrake's original settings (i.e. the defaults in 0.7.x or something like that.
simonmcnair wrote:-Surely anything that isn't present generation should be prefixed with 'legacy' ?
Legacy means legacy presets, not legacy devices.

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Re: rename profiles please

Post by simonmcnair » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:23 am

I'm glad we came to no conclusion on that then ;-)

my 2p, the profile names are still confusing even when you've explained them. I guess that's a limitation of my brain and it makes sense to everyone else. Never mind eh.

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