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festix
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BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by festix »

I have problems to load a .ts file. The BluRay-disc (Mamma Mia) is ripped with AnyDVD HD and the video and audio is demuxed with tsMuxer to a .ts-file. In tsMuxer the videostream have this properties: Codec: VC-1 Profile: Advanced@3 Resolution: 1929:1280 Frame rate: 23.976. I have also tried TooNMT with the same result.
When i try to load the .ts file in HandBrake i get this message in a messagebox:

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"No Title(s) found. Please make sure you hav selected a valid, non-copy protected source.
Your source may be copy protected, badly mastered or a format wich HandBrake does nor support.
Pleas refer to teh Documentation and FAQ(see Help Menu)."
I don´t think there isn any wrong with the file, because i can play it with my PopcornHour without problems. The quality is or course excellent but the file is too big.

I have used the same technic with several BluRays-discs without problems, but they all have the H264 codec in the video-stream.

OBS! I can't provide any activity-log. There is no log-file created, because the error is occured when i try to load the source-file.

Is there no support for VC-1 video-codec in HandBrake, or am i missing something else?
nightstrm
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by nightstrm »

If I remember correctly, there were some significant improvements in how Handbrake handles VC-1 sources submitted shortly after .9.3 was released. I know I have had zero problems with VC-1, but I'm running newer builds. I would suggest either attempting to build your own from SVN, or waiting for the next release (either developer snapshot or .9.4). I do not have any idea what the time frame for the next release would be.
spongevader
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by spongevader »

I've been having the same problems, rather annoying. Have you made any progress?
gstock99
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by gstock99 »

My process for just about any type of Blu-Ray video file type.

Software needed: (If you doing this kind of stuff you should know where to find these programs)
AnyDVD/HD
HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor
mkvmerge GUI
eAC-3to

Step 1: Open HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor
Step 2: Select Input and Output locations
Step 3: Click Features (if it doesn't start automatically)
Step 4: Select the stream you want to extract
a.) Set the Video output as MKV
b.) Set the Audio output to AC-3 (See Note 2)
c.) Select your Subtitles and Chapter file is desired (NOTE: I haven't done any projects with subtitles yet.)
Step 5: Upon completion of extraction, run mkvmerge GUI and drop in the MKV & AC-3 files and run.
a.) This will give you a complete MKV file that Handbrake can import.
b.) You can delete the original MKV once you've verified the merge if you like.
Step 6: Open Handbrake and open Video File
a.) Select the newly created MKV file and encode as desired
(Optional)
Step 7: Run mkvmerge GUI and drop in the recently completed MKV file and your extracted DTS audio file
a.) De-select the AC-3 audio
b.) Set whatever language and track flags you desire
c.) Insert you chapter file.
d.) Specify an output filename and run.
e.) Verify you work, and if delete any files no longer required.


Note 1: This process can either be done by ripping to the hard drive with AnyDVD/HD or simply let AnyDVD/HD do it's magic extract on the fly.
I think it's faster to do it on the fly on my setup.

Note 2: You can extract the audio in any format that is supported. Be advised that Handbrake may not recognize the format or may not be able to handle re-encoding of this file. For example, if you choose to keep the original DTS file, I have always needed to convert it to AC-3 and mkvmerge it to get Handbrake to correctly give me my desired output. The times I've had a DTS file merged into my MKV, the audio at the end of the encoding was silent and the video portion used my entire allocation of space. So what I do is subtract the size of the DTS file from my target size (plus about 10-20MB). This has resulted in a target file that is close enough for my purpose.

I most always extract my audio to the best quality available and re-encode externally if possible.

I hope this helps.
Greg
dacookster
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by dacookster »

I get some garbled frames when trying to encode from VC-1 sources. Its been hit and miss so far. Hopefully there truly is some fixes for compatibility in future releases.
nathug
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by nathug »

gstock99 wrote:My process for just about any type of Blu-Ray video file type.

Software needed: (If you doing this kind of stuff you should know where to find these programs)
AnyDVD/HD
HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor
mkvmerge GUI
eAC-3to

Step 1: Open HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor
Step 2: Select Input and Output locations
Step 3: Click Features (if it doesn't start automatically)
Step 4: Select the stream you want to extract
a.) Set the Video output as MKV
b.) Set the Audio output to AC-3 (See Note 2)
c.) Select your Subtitles and Chapter file is desired (NOTE: I haven't done any projects with subtitles yet.)
Step 5: Upon completion of extraction, run mkvmerge GUI and drop in the MKV & AC-3 files and run.
a.) This will give you a complete MKV file that Handbrake can import.
b.) You can delete the original MKV once you've verified the merge if you like.
Step 6: Open Handbrake and open Video File
a.) Select the newly created MKV file and encode as desired
(Optional)
Step 7: Run mkvmerge GUI and drop in the recently completed MKV file and your extracted DTS audio file
a.) De-select the AC-3 audio
b.) Set whatever language and track flags you desire
c.) Insert you chapter file.
d.) Specify an output filename and run.
e.) Verify you work, and if delete any files no longer required.


Note 1: This process can either be done by ripping to the hard drive with AnyDVD/HD or simply let AnyDVD/HD do it's magic extract on the fly.
I think it's faster to do it on the fly on my setup.

Note 2: You can extract the audio in any format that is supported. Be advised that Handbrake may not recognize the format or may not be able to handle re-encoding of this file. For example, if you choose to keep the original DTS file, I have always needed to convert it to AC-3 and mkvmerge it to get Handbrake to correctly give me my desired output. The times I've had a DTS file merged into my MKV, the audio at the end of the encoding was silent and the video portion used my entire allocation of space. So what I do is subtract the size of the DTS file from my target size (plus about 10-20MB). This has resulted in a target file that is close enough for my purpose.

I most always extract my audio to the best quality available and re-encode externally if possible.

I hope this helps.
Greg
Wow, you go through WAY to many steps here!!

First off, grab and complile the latest SVN of Handbreak.

Here's how I do it.

Rip with AnyDVD HD
Use Clown BD to create your .m2ts file taking out unwanted stuff, and to do any audio conversions and time alignments etc - (This automates the TSmuxer and eac3to. It even puts the m2ts files in the correct order and stitches them together e.g Pinapple Express).
Send the created file to Handbreak.
Done.

So far I've seen .m2ts files that have MPEG2, VC1, and H.264, and HB has had no problems at all. Here is a list of stuff I've converted so far with no problems with the AppleTV preset and Universal presets. Now my daughter knows how to put a disc in my PS3, having the ability to back up my Blu-Rays is great. With DVD I went through 3 Finding Nemos!!

W.
Pinapple Express
Milk
All ther Pirates of the Caribean Movies
Blazing Saddles
The Fifth Element
Babylon AD
The Princess Bride
Shoot Em Up
The Dark Knight
Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket
Chicken Little
Wall-E

Nate
gstock99
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by gstock99 »

Yeah I know it seems like a lot of steps. I don't rip the whole disc to the hard drive, just the Movie or Title I want. I do this on the fly with HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor in which I only extract the video, audio, and chapter list. This takes usually takes less time than ripping the whole disc to the HD. A lot of the time I simply leave the audio untouched, sometimes I convert it to AC-3 in the case of DTS tracks.

Then I just mux it into the MKV container which I've had no problems getting HB to open. Since most of my encodes are size restriction based encodes (1 DVD or 2 DVD's depending upon movie length and complexity). The only part that I do after encoding is done is adding chapters and splitting if required.

I'm not that experienced using compilers, however this past weekend I took the plunge and attempted to setup the CYGWIN environment. After several errors and retries I was able to get it setup. I was able to compile the latest GUI and CLI builds. Now I check every few days for updates. I did a couple of test converts and everything seemed to work well. I did notice with the latest build I have seen a slight speed improvement.

For those interested I have the following titles that have VC-1 as the video stream:
3:10 To Yuma
Body Of Lies
Fool's Gold
RocknRolla
Role Models

I've also done 10 titles using the AVC/H264 as the video stream.

So far I've only had to re-encode when I've made an error in configuration, never because of Handbrake issues.

My time required per step:
Stream Extraction / Ripping: approx. 1 hour

Audio Conversion (if required): <5 minutes (via Foobar 2000 using custom Aften Command Line options profile)

mkvmerge: 15-20 minutes
(Verify audio sync and overall playability)

Handbrake Encode Time: 2-pass sized based encode using the following settings: 5 to 7.5 Hours
(1 DVD) "-f mkv -X 1920 -p -e x264 -S 4475 -2 -T -a 1 -E ac3 -6 dpl2 -R 0 -B 0 -D 1 -x level=41:me=umh:merange=32:no-fast-pskip=1:analyse=all:8x8dct=1 -v"
or
(2 DVD's) "-f mkv -X 1920 -p -e x264 -S 8950 -2 -T -a 1 -E ac3 -6 dpl2 -R 0 -B 0 -D 1 -x level=41:me=umh:merange=32:no-fast-pskip=1:analyse=all:8x8dct=1 -v"

mkvmerge: 5-12 minutes (merge, split (if required) and add original chapter points)
(Verify audio sync, and overall playability)

Burn DVD: 8-10 minutes per DVD

I appreciate the pointers, I'll give a test run with your method to see if it's any faster for me.

Thanks.

Greg

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Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (not overclocked)
4GB DDR2 800Mhz
2x 500GB WD SATA Hard Drives
LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray Drive
Pioneer DVR-112D DVD Drive
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gstock99
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by gstock99 »

dacookster wrote:I get some garbled frames when trying to encode from VC-1 sources. Its been hit and miss so far. Hopefully there truly is some fixes for compatibility in future releases.
I haven't seen these issues thus far using the method posted earlier in this thread. I've done 5 titles that contained the VC-1 codec. Post your log and maybe we can help determine your problems.

Greg
the-oz-man
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by the-oz-man »

I'm working on my first Bluray encode and have completed the steps through handbrake. I have an excellent file of only 660 MB and perfect audio track, however, in play back of iTunes I only have a white screen for the entire length of the movie. I suppose that I have messed up on some step of adding the video, but if any gudience can be given that would be great.

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### Windows GUI 0.9.3 2008112300 
### Running: Microsoft Windows NT 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 
###
### CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5400+ 
### Ram: 4094 MB 
### Screen: 2560x1024 
### Temp Dir: C:\Users\Dustin\AppData\Local\Temp\ 
### Install Dir: C:\Program Files (x86)\HandBrake 
### Data Dir: C:\Users\Dustin\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake\HandBrake\0.9.3.0 
#########################################

### CLI Query:  -i "C:\Users\Dustin\Videos\test\doubtful.M2TS" -t 1 -c 1 -o "C:\Users\Dustin\Videos\From Russia With Love.mp4" -f mp4 -4  -X 960 --deinterlace="fast" --decomb  -P  --detelecine -e x264 -q 0.62 -a 1,1 -E faac,ac3 -B 160,160 -R 48,0 -6 dpl2,dpl2 -D 1,1 -x level=30:cabac=0:ref=3:mixed-refs=1:bframes=6:weightb=1:direct=auto:no-fast-pskip=1:me=umh:subq=7:analyse=all -v 
#########################################
[11:37:23] hb_init: checking cpu count
[11:37:23] hb_init: starting libhb thread
HandBrake 0.9.3 (2008112300) - http://handbrake.fr/
2 CPUs detected
Opening C:\Users\Dustin\Videos\test\doubtful.M2TS...
[11:37:23] hb_scan: path=C:\Users\Dustin\Videos\test\doubtful.M2TS, title_index=1
[11:37:23] scan: trying to open with libdvdread
[11:37:23] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
[11:37:23] file is MPEG Transport Stream with 192 byte packets offset 4 bytes
[11:37:23] hb_ts_stream_find_pids - found the following PIDS
[11:37:23]     Video PIDS : 
[11:37:23]       0x1011 type H.264 (0x1b)
[11:37:23]     Audio PIDS : 
[11:37:23]       0x1100 type AC-3 (0x81)
[11:37:23] transport stream pid 0x1100 (type 0x81) is AC-3 audio id 0x80bd
[11:37:23] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[11:37:23] scan: audio 0x80bd: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=640000 English (AC3) (5.1 ch)
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the-oz-man
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by the-oz-man »

gstock99 wrote:My process for just about any type of Blu-Ray video file type.

Software needed: (If you doing this kind of stuff you should know where to find these programs)
AnyDVD/HD
HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor
mkvmerge GUI
eAC-3to

Step 1: Open HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor
Step 2: Select Input and Output locations
Step 3: Click Features (if it doesn't start automatically)
Step 4: Select the stream you want to extract
a.) Set the Video output as MKV
b.) Set the Audio output to AC-3 (See Note 2)
c.) Select your Subtitles and Chapter file is desired (NOTE: I haven't done any projects with subtitles yet.)
Step 5: Upon completion of extraction, run mkvmerge GUI and drop in the MKV & AC-3 files and run.
a.) This will give you a complete MKV file that Handbrake can import.
b.) You can delete the original MKV once you've verified the merge if you like.
Step 6: Open Handbrake and open Video File
a.) Select the newly created MKV file and encode as desired
(Optional)
Step 7: Run mkvmerge GUI and drop in the recently completed MKV file and your extracted DTS audio file
a.) De-select the AC-3 audio
b.) Set whatever language and track flags you desire
c.) Insert you chapter file.
d.) Specify an output filename and run.
e.) Verify you work, and if delete any files no longer required.


Note 1: This process can either be done by ripping to the hard drive with AnyDVD/HD or simply let AnyDVD/HD do it's magic extract on the fly.
I think it's faster to do it on the fly on my setup.

Note 2: You can extract the audio in any format that is supported. Be advised that Handbrake may not recognize the format or may not be able to handle re-encoding of this file. For example, if you choose to keep the original DTS file, I have always needed to convert it to AC-3 and mkvmerge it to get Handbrake to correctly give me my desired output. The times I've had a DTS file merged into my MKV, the audio at the end of the encoding was silent and the video portion used my entire allocation of space. So what I do is subtract the size of the DTS file from my target size (plus about 10-20MB). This has resulted in a target file that is close enough for my purpose.

I most always extract my audio to the best quality available and re-encode externally if possible.

I hope this helps.
Greg
Greg, have you had any success with subtitles yet? I followed a similar workflow, but the subtitles did encode with House of Flying Daggers. It's a great movie, but my Chinese is a little rusty. Any advice would be great.
gstock99
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by gstock99 »

Oz-man,

I haven't had the need for subtitles in my encodes. Everything I've read about MKV"s and subtitles with reference to my playback device (Popcorn Hour) is to embed or force subtitles. Muxing in subtitles in to my final MKV is do-able, but my understanding is that there may be still glitches in the implementation. So if I ever have need for subtitles I'll post my results. Sorry.

Greg
markthediver
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Re: BluRay with VC-1 codec

Post by markthediver »

hi,

not sure if this is gonna work,
i have just put star trek in my br drive and selected source then found the main movie file on the bluray disc 44gb, i have anydvdhd running and have set to mkv, high profile, large file and just put the audio down to 128k aac and have started to encode...its says around 7-8 hours.

i tried a small section of 1% and the quality looks good.

what do you guys think?

thanks for the app....
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