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ChaoSpawN
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Handbrake keeps adding an empty subtitle track??

Post by ChaoSpawN »

Whatever I do, Handbrake adds and empty subtitle track to any file I rip, convert, etc...
I'll delete any and all subtitle tracks from the Subtitle tab, click 'Clear' in the Subtitle tab, change the selection behavior to 'None', uncheck 'Add Foreign Audio Scan', set 'Burn-In Behaviour' to 'None',... It doesn't seem to matter, Handbrake will always add an empty subtitle track to any file, even when I rip some music DVD that doesn't even have subtitles to begin with.

How on earth do I rip/convert files without adding this useless empty subtitle track to it?? What am I missing?

HandBrake version 1.3.3, but also happens in previous versions

Windows 10




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HandBrake 1.3.3 (2020061300)
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.18363.0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Ram: 16331 MB, 
GPU Information:
  Radeon RX 580 Series - 26.20.15029.27017
Screen: 1920x1080
Temp Dir: C:\Users\spawn\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\HandBrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\spawn\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake

-------------------------------------------


# Starting Encode ...

[01:11:30] base preset: Very Fast 576p25
[01:11:30] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[01:11:30] Starting work at: Wed Sep 30 01:11:30 2020
[01:11:30] 1 job(s) to process
[01:11:30] json job:
{
  "Audio": {
    "AudioList": [
      {
        "Bitrate": 160,
        "DRC": 0.0,
        "Encoder": "av_aac",
        "Gain": 0.0,
        "Mixdown": 4,
        "NormalizeMixLevel": false,
        "Samplerate": 0,
        "Track": 0,
        "DitherMethod": 0
      }
    ],
    "CopyMask": [
      "copy:aac",
      "copy:ac3",
      "copy:dtshd",
      "copy:dts",
      "copy:eac3",
      "copy:flac",
      "copy:mp3",
      "copy:truehd"
    ],
    "FallbackEncoder": "ac3"
  },
  "Destination": {
    "ChapterList": [
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 1"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 2"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 3"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 4"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 5"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 6"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 7"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 8"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 9"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 10"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 11"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 12"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 13"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 14"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 15"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 16"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 17"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 18"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 19"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 20"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 21"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 22"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 23"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 24"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 25"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 26"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 27"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 28"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 29"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 30"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Chapter 31"
      }
    ],
    "ChapterMarkers": true,
    "AlignAVStart": true,
    "File": "C:\\Users\\spawn\\Videos\\Dvdvolume-1.m4v",
    "Mp4Options": {
      "IpodAtom": false,
      "Mp4Optimize": false
    },
    "Mux": "av_mp4"
  },
  "Filters": {
    "FilterList": [
      {
        "ID": 4,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "7"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 3,
        "Settings": {
          "block-height": "16",
          "block-thresh": "80",
          "block-width": "16",
          "filter-mode": "1",
          "mode": "0",
          "motion-thresh": "2",
          "spatial-metric": "2",
          "spatial-thresh": "3"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 12,
        "Settings": {
          "crop-bottom": "2",
          "crop-left": "52",
          "crop-right": "14",
          "crop-top": "2",
          "height": "572",
          "width": "654"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 6,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "2",
          "rate": "27000000/1080000"
        }
      }
    ]
  },
  "PAR": {
    "Num": 16,
    "Den": 15
  },
  "Metadata": {},
  "SequenceID": 0,
  "Source": {
    "Angle": 1,
    "Range": {
      "Type": "chapter",
      "Start": 1,
      "End": 31
    },
    "Title": 1,
    "Path": "E:\\"
  },
  "Subtitle": {
    "Search": {
      "Burn": true,
      "Default": false,
      "Enable": true,
      "Forced": true
    },
    "SubtitleList": []
  },
  "Video": {
    "Encoder": "x264",
    "Level": "3.1",
    "TwoPass": false,
    "Turbo": false,
    "ColorMatrixCode": 0,
    "Options": "",
    "Preset": "veryfast",
    "Profile": "main",
    "Quality": 22.0,
    "QSV": {
      "Decode": false,
      "AsyncDepth": 0
    }
  }
}
[01:11:30] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
[01:11:30]  - Intel microarchitecture Ivy Bridge
[01:11:30]  - logical processor count: 8
[01:11:30] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[01:11:30] hb_scan: path=E:\, title_index=1
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:424: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/bluray.c:2585: nav_get_title_list(E:\) failed
[01:11:30] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 6.0.1
libdvdnav: Unable to open device file E:\.
libdvdnav: vm: dvd_read_name failed
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00c00000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0000012e
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x00002497
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x00002537
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 1 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
[01:11:30] scan: DVD has 3 title(s)
[01:11:30] scan: scanning title 1
[01:11:30] scan: duration is 01:51:51 (6711040 ms)
[01:11:30] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000001A3F8A64450
[01:11:30] scan: checking audio 1
[01:11:30] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=Nederlands (AC3), 3cc=nld ext=0
[01:11:30] scan: title 1 has 31 chapters
[01:11:30] scan: chap 1, 520 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 2, 142480 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 3, 318760 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 4, 51480 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 5, 111280 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 6, 333840 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 7, 127400 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 8, 216840 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 9, 123240 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 10, 115440 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 11, 122200 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 12, 258440 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 13, 214240 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 14, 273000 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 15, 182520 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 16, 64480 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 17, 167440 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 18, 236600 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 19, 132600 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 20, 439920 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 21, 185640 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 22, 210080 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 23, 884000 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 24, 209040 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 25, 360880 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 26, 148720 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 27, 184080 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 28, 345280 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 29, 235560 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 30, 29640 ms
[01:11:30] scan: chap 31, 285400 ms
[01:11:30] scan: aspect = 4:3
[01:11:30] scan: decoding previews for title 1
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00c00000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6
[01:11:31] scan: title angle(s) 1
[01:11:31] scan: audio 0x80bd: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=224000 Nederlands (AC3) (2.0 ch) (224 kbps)
[01:11:32] scan: 10 previews, 720x576, 25.000 fps, autocrop = 2/2/52/14, aspect 4:3, PAR 16:15
[01:11:32] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[01:11:32] Skipping subtitle scan.  No suitable subtitle tracks.
[01:11:32] Starting Task: Encoding Pass
[01:11:32] job configuration:
[01:11:32]  * source
[01:11:32]    + E:\
[01:11:32]    + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 31
[01:11:32]  * destination
[01:11:32]    + C:\Users\spawn\Videos\Dvdvolume-1.m4v
[01:11:32]    + container: MPEG-4 (libavformat)
[01:11:32]      + align initial A/V stream timestamps
[01:11:32]      + chapter markers
[01:11:32]  * video track
[01:11:32]    + decoder: mpeg2video
[01:11:32]      + bitrate 200 kbps
[01:11:32]    + filters
[01:11:32]      + Comb Detect (mode=0:spatial-metric=2:motion-thresh=2:spatial-thresh=3:filter-mode=1:block-thresh=80:block-width=16:block-height=16)
[01:11:32]      + Decomb (mode=39)
[01:11:32]      + Framerate Shaper (mode=2:rate=27000000/1080000)
[01:11:32]        + frame rate: 25.000 fps -> peak rate limited to 25.000 fps
[01:11:32]      + Crop and Scale (width=654:height=572:crop-top=2:crop-bottom=2:crop-left=52:crop-right=14)
[01:11:32]        + source: 720 * 576, crop (2/2/52/14): 654 * 572, scale: 654 * 572
[01:11:32]    + Output geometry
[01:11:32]      + storage dimensions: 654 x 572
[01:11:32]      + pixel aspect ratio: 16 : 15
[01:11:32]      + display dimensions: 697 x 572
[01:11:32]    + encoder: H.264 (libx264)
[01:11:32]      + preset:  veryfast
[01:11:32]      + profile: main
[01:11:32]      + level:   3.1
[01:11:32]      + quality: 22.00 (RF)
[01:11:32]      + color profile: 5-5-5
[01:11:32]  * audio track 1
[01:11:32]    + decoder: Nederlands (AC3) (2.0 ch) (224 kbps) (track 1, id 0x80bd)
[01:11:32]      + bitrate: 224 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[01:11:32]    + mixdown: Stereo
[01:11:32]    + dither: none
[01:11:32]    + encoder: AAC (libavcodec)
[01:11:32]      + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 6.0.1
libdvdnav: Unable to open device file E:\.
libdvdnav: vm: dvd_read_name failed
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00c00000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0000012e
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x00002497
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x00002537
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 1 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00c00000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6
[01:11:33] sync: expecting 167776 video frames
[01:11:33] encx264: encoding at constant RF 22.000000
[01:11:33] encx264: unparsed options: level=3.1:ref=1:8x8dct=0:weightp=1:subme=2:mixed-refs=0:trellis=0:vbv-bufsize=14000:vbv-maxrate=14000:rc-lookahead=10
x264 [info]: using SAR=16/15
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 3.1, 4:2:0, 8-bit
[01:11:33] sync: first pts video is 0
[01:11:33] sync: "Chapter 1" (1) at frame 1 time 0
[01:11:33] sync: first pts audio 0x80bd is 0
[01:11:33] sync: "Chapter 2" (2) at frame 14 time 46800
[01:11:56] sync: "Chapter 3" (3) at frame 3576 time 12870000
[01:12:44] sync: "Chapter 4" (4) at frame 11545 time 41558400
[01:12:52] sync: "Chapter 5" (5) at frame 12832 time 46191600
[01:13:09] sync: "Chapter 6" (6) at frame 15614 time 56206800
[01:14:00] sync: "Chapter 7" (7) at frame 23960 time 86252400
[01:14:17] sync: "Chapter 8" (8) at frame 27145 time 97718400
[01:14:52] sync: "Chapter 9" (9) at frame 32566 time 117234000
[01:15:10] sync: "Chapter 10" (10) at frame 35647 time 128325600
[01:15:27] sync: "Chapter 11" (11) at frame 38533 time 138715200
[01:15:45] sync: "Chapter 12" (12) at frame 41588 time 149713200
[01:16:22] sync: "Chapter 13" (13) at frame 48049 time 172972800
[01:16:53] sync: "Chapter 14" (14) at frame 53405 time 192254400
[01:17:29] sync: "Chapter 15" (15) at frame 60230 time 216824400
[01:17:53] sync: "Chapter 16" (16) at frame 64793 time 233251200
[01:18:01] sync: "Chapter 17" (17) at frame 66405 time 239054400
[01:18:24] sync: "Chapter 18" (18) at frame 70591 time 254124000
[01:18:55] sync: "Chapter 19" (19) at frame 76506 time 275418000
[01:19:15] sync: "Chapter 20" (20) at frame 79821 time 287352000
[01:20:15] sync: "Chapter 21" (21) at frame 90819 time 326944800
[01:20:33] sync: "Chapter 22" (22) at frame 95460 time 343652400
[01:21:00] sync: "Chapter 23" (23) at frame 100712 time 362559600
[01:22:53] sync: "Chapter 24" (24) at frame 122812 time 442119600
[01:23:19] sync: "Chapter 25" (25) at frame 128038 time 460933200
[01:24:05] sync: "Chapter 26" (26) at frame 137060 time 493412400
[01:24:23] sync: "Chapter 27" (27) at frame 140778 time 506797200
[01:24:44] sync: "Chapter 28" (28) at frame 145380 time 523364400
[01:25:24] sync: "Chapter 29" (29) at frame 154012 time 554439600
[01:25:56] sync: "Chapter 30" (30) at frame 159901 time 575640000
[01:25:59] sync: "Chapter 31" (31) at frame 160642 time 578307600
[01:26:33] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[01:26:33] work: average encoding speed for job is 186.363419 fps
[01:26:33] comb detect: heavy 103429 | light 26127 | uncombed 38210 | total 167766
[01:26:33] decomb: deinterlaced 103429 | blended 26127 | unfiltered 38210 | total 167766
[01:26:33] vfr: 167766 frames output, 0 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
[01:26:33] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[01:26:33] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[01:26:33] ac3-decoder done: 209708 frames, 0 decoder errors
[01:26:33] mpeg2video-decoder done: 167766 frames, 0 decoder errors
[01:26:33] sync: got 167766 frames, 167776 expected
[01:26:33] sync: framerate min 25.000 fps, max 25.000 fps, avg 25.000 fps
[aac @ 000001a3f8ad9cc0] Qavg: 183.399
x264 [info]: frame I:1136  Avg QP:18.89  size: 17102
x264 [info]: frame P:43470 Avg QP:21.53  size:  5284
x264 [info]: frame B:123160 Avg QP:23.01  size:  1656
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames:  1.7%  0.7%  1.5% 96.1%
x264 [info]: mb I  I16..4: 70.3%  0.0% 29.7%
x264 [info]: mb P  I16..4: 15.5%  0.0%  5.0%  P16..4: 21.4%  7.1%  3.4%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:47.6%
x264 [info]: mb B  I16..4:  1.6%  0.0%  0.3%  B16..8: 11.8%  3.9%  0.4%  direct: 9.0%  skip:73.0%  L0:37.0% L1:44.3% BI:18.7%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 31.0% 60.1% 20.4% inter: 5.0% 12.5% 0.2%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 72% 13% 10%  5%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 26% 15% 18%  6%  7%  8%  7%  7%  6%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 37% 12% 45%  6%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:3.9% UV:1.2%
x264 [info]: kb/s:540.20
[01:26:33] mux: track 0, 167766 frames, 453086785 bytes, 540.14 kbps, fifo 8192
[01:26:33] mux: track 1, 314563 frames, 134762095 bytes, 160.65 kbps, fifo 16384
[01:26:33] Finished work at: Wed Sep 30 01:26:33 2020
[01:26:33] libhb: work result = 0

# Encode Completed ...


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Ritsuka
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Re: Handbrake keeps adding an empty subtitle track??

Post by Ritsuka »

That's the chapter track. If your player can't handle it properly, disable chapters.
ChaoSpawN
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Re: Handbrake keeps adding an empty subtitle track??

Post by ChaoSpawN »

Oh I see. Is there no way to keep chapter markers without adding this track? It's utterly redundant and uselessly clutters the subtitle list for files that I do want subtitles on. Or is there at the very least not some way to rename it so it doesn't show as "Track 1 - [English]" (which is just very non-descript and confusing, especially on files that I do want to add an English subtitle track to)?
Woodstock
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Re: Handbrake keeps adding an empty subtitle track??

Post by Woodstock »

It's a non-standard feature, since MP4 doesn't really define "chapter track" in the standard. Not all players recognize it as such, which is why you see it.

If you use MKV as your output format, that has a gen-you-whine chapter track type.

If you want it to be "invisible", but still present for players that are smarter, you can create an empty subtitle track to put in front of it. With DVD sources, you can pick a subtitle track and select "forced only", and you'll get the empty track.

Oh, wait -- DVD subtitle tracks is another non-standard feature for MP4 files; if a player is smart enough to recognize those, it SHOULD be smart enough to recognize the chapter track...
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Ritsuka
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Re: Handbrake keeps adding an empty subtitle track??

Post by Ritsuka »

The player should be smart enough to know that's a chapter track and not to show it in the subtitles list. If not, report it as a bug or feature enhancements.
ChaoSpawN
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Re: Handbrake keeps adding an empty subtitle track??

Post by ChaoSpawN »

I use VLC player and even though it does recognize the chapter markers, it also shows it as a subtitle track for whatever reason. Thanks for clarifying Ritsuka and Woodstock!!
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Rodeo
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Re: Handbrake keeps adding an empty subtitle track??

Post by Rodeo »

Never had that issue with VLC, FWIW. What version of VLC are you using?
ChaoSpawN
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Re: Handbrake keeps adding an empty subtitle track??

Post by ChaoSpawN »

I'm using v3.0.11, should be the latest version as far as I'm aware, but I've been having this issue with previous versions as well.
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Re: Handbrake keeps adding an empty subtitle track??

Post by Rodeo »

Hmm, either it's a regression or I guess I never really paid attention. Confused now.
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