subtitle passthru option?

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gendalf
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subtitle passthru option?

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..or a stream copy (in mediacoder) option. How to do this?
Whatever I select ends up looking different when played, compared to the original.
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Re: subtitle passthru option?

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Could you please post your HB logs, instructions can be found here:

https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/hel ... y-log.html
Woodstock
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Re: subtitle passthru option?

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What you can do with subtitles varies with what output format you select. MP4 accepts only limited subtitle types; This prevents a lot of "passthru". With MKV, your options are more varied, but still, not everything can be passed through untouched.

If you are dealing with an image-based format, like VOBSUB or PGS, what you get on the output will be the same as the input. Text-based formats, though, are subject to the rules of the renderer; there is no "original", just what the first renderer did with the input.

With the missing logs, we can see what you are talking about.

If you have not already done so, see https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/adv ... itles.html
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Re: subtitle passthru option?

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Choose it.
gendalf
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Re: subtitle passthru option?

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here's a comparison of media info:
before:

Code: Select all

Text #1
ID                             : 4
Format                         : UTF-8
Codec ID                       : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info                  : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration                       : 1 h 39 min
Bit rate                       : 10 b/s
Count of elements              : 142
Stream size                    : 7.73 KiB (0%)
Title                          : Deleted Scenes
Language                       : Russian
Default                        : Yes
Forced                         : Yes

Text #2
ID                             : 5
Format                         : UTF-8
Codec ID                       : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info                  : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration                       : 1 h 54 min
Bit rate                       : 102 b/s
Count of elements              : 995
Stream size                    : 86.1 KiB (0%)
Language                       : Russian
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Text #3
ID                             : 6
Format                         : UTF-8
Codec ID                       : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info                  : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration                       : 1 h 54 min
Bit rate                       : 35 b/s
Count of elements              : 940
Stream size                    : 29.5 KiB (0%)
Language                       : English
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No
after:

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Text #1
ID                             : 4
Format                         : ASS
Codec ID                       : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info                  : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Duration                       : 1 h 55 min
Compression mode               : Lossless
Language                       : English
											  
											   
										
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Text #2
ID                             : 5
Format                         : ASS
Codec ID                       : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info                  : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Duration                       : 1 h 39 min
Compression mode               : Lossless
Title                          : Deleted Scenes
											  
Language                       : Russian
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Text #3
ID                             : 6
Format                         : ASS
Codec ID                       : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info                  : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Duration                       : 1 h 55 min
Compression mode               : Lossless
									
											  
Language                       : Russian
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No
not only it looks visually different but it also for some reason moved around sub tracks placing english first.
the only thing I can come up with is to mkvmerge old file's subs with the new one's video&audio, but that's an extra step every time.
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Re: subtitle passthru option?

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Re: subtitle passthru option?

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So, we still don't have logs to show us what handbrake saw when it read the source, and what you were commanding it to do.

Giving us two media info outputs and no logs is like presenting us with two kinds of pudding, and asking about how they were prepared.
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