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Automatic convertion of subtitles
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:14 pm
by orangesocks
Description of problem or question:
Hi, after last update whenever I remux a file which has .srt subtitles they are converted into .ass subtitles.
I don't know why, because this has never happend before and I haven't changed the session settings.
Thanks for your help.
Regards Giuseppe
Steps to reproduce the problem (If Applicable):
HandBrake version (e.g., 1.0.0):
Versione 1.3.1 ( 2020010400)
Operating system and version (e.g., Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, macOS 10.13 High Sierra, Windows 10 Creators Update):
Windows 10 Pro N 1909
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Re: Automatic convertion of subtitles
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:58 pm
by akyhne
Seems it's a default behavior that can't be changed. But you can always remux the file with "MKVToolNix GUI" and the subtitle from the old file. At least until someone may come with a better solution.
Re: Automatic convertion of subtitles
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:14 am
by mduell
HB uses SSA/ASS internally, so they're converted in the handling.
Re: Automatic convertion of subtitles
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:02 pm
by orangesocks
I was hoping for a pass through option like the one on AC3 audio files.
Thanks anyway.
Re: Automatic convertion of subtitles
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:18 pm
by Woodstock
Pass through could work for MKV files, but not for MP4.
But SRT is a really limited format, dependent on settings in the playback environment for proper rendering. I gave up on pass-through SRT when I found that I had to reconfigure my player for things like font color and size for EVERY movie, because no settings gave universal visibility and readability.
At least with SSA, the subtitle author has control over where the text is displayed, its color, font, shadowing, etc., and many make VERY good use of that capability.
Re: Automatic convertion of subtitles
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:53 pm
by akyhne
Woodstock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:18 pm
But SRT is a really limited format...
Limited yeah, but seems to have far more player support. And most players support changing subtitle size, if the stream is .srt.
Also I would guess the player has to support the font provided in the SSA stream anyway as a system font?
Re: Automatic convertion of subtitles
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:40 am
by Woodstock
For maximum capability, SSA subtitles should include any special fonts in the MKV file. Otherwise, they'll use the "closest installed" font style.
MP4 files are going to end up with "Timed Text" for the subtitle format.