Some questions about black bars and cropping them.

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alexd15
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Some questions about black bars and cropping them.

Post by alexd15 »

So I tried to remove the black bars on a wide screen film with the intention to reduce file size. Is this a valid thing to do? Is there any reason not to crop the preexisting bars and does it actually reduce file size?

What's more, I noticed after cropping them my subtitle track was a bit higher than it should be. Is there a fix to that assuming cropping bars is a good idea?:


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Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.16299.0 - 64bit:




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HandBrake 1.0.7 (2017040900) - 64bit
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.16299.0 - 64bit
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460  CPU @ 3.20GHz
Ram: 8135 MB, 
GPU Information:
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Screen: 1920x1080
Temp Dir: C:\Users\Bedroom\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\HandBrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\Bedroom\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake Team\HandBrake\1.0.7.0

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[16:35:02] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[16:35:02] 1 job(s) to process
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[16:35:02] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460  CPU @ 3.20GHz
[16:35:02]  - Intel microarchitecture Haswell
[16:35:02]  - logical processor count: 4
[16:35:02] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[16:35:02] hb_scan: path=C:\Users\Bedroom\Desktop\BV\Blue_Velvet_t02.mkv, title_index=1
udfread ERROR: ECMA 167 Volume Recognition failed
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:274: failed opening UDF image C:\Users\Bedroom\Desktop\BV\Blue_Velvet_t02.mkv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:352: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:352: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
[16:35:02] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 5.0.1
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[16:35:02] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
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[16:35:02] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[16:35:02] scan: audio 0x1: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[16:35:02] scan: audio 0x2: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=768000 Francais (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[16:35:02] scan: audio 0x3: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 Portugues (AC3) (2.0 ch) (Dolby Surround)
[16:35:02] scan: audio 0x4: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=768000 italiano (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[16:35:02] scan: audio 0x5: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=768000 Deutsch (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[16:35:02] scan: audio 0x6: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=768000 español (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[16:35:04] scan: 10 previews, 1920x1080, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 132/134/2/2, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[16:35:04] scan: supported video decoders: avcodec qsv
[16:35:04] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[16:35:04] starting job
[16:35:04] work: track 1, dithering not supported by codec
[16:35:04] work: track 2, dithering not supported by codec
[16:35:04] work: track 3, dithering not supported by codec
[16:35:04] work: track 4, dithering not supported by codec
[16:35:04] job configuration:
[16:35:04]  * source
[16:35:04]    + C:\Users\Bedroom\Desktop\BV\Blue_Velvet_t02.mkv
[16:35:04]    + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 28
[16:35:04]    + container: matroska,webm
[16:35:04]  * destination
[16:35:04]    + C:\Users\Bedroom\Desktop\BV\Blue Velvet T02-1.mkv
[16:35:04]    + container: Matroska (libavformat)
[16:35:04]      + chapter markers
[16:35:04]  * video track
[16:35:04]    + decoder: h264
[16:35:04]    + filters
[16:35:04]      + Framerate Shaper (mode=0)
[16:35:04]        + frame rate: same as source (around 23.976 fps)
[16:35:04]      + Crop and Scale (width=1920:height=814:crop-top=132:crop-bottom=134:crop-left=0:crop-right=0)
[16:35:04]        + source: 1920 * 1080, crop (132/134/0/0): 1920 * 814, scale: 1920 * 814
[16:35:04]    + Output geometry
[16:35:04]      + storage dimensions: 1920 x 814
[16:35:04]      + pixel aspect ratio: 1 : 1
[16:35:04]      + display dimensions: 1920 x 814
[16:35:04]    + encoder: H.264 (libx264)
[16:35:04]      + preset:  medium
[16:35:04]      + profile: main
[16:35:04]      + level:   4.1
[16:35:04]      + quality: 20.00 (RF)
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 1, English (track 0, id 0x7) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 2, Spanish (track 1, id 0x8) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 3, French (track 2, id 0x9) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 4, Portuguese (track 3, id 0xa) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 5, Italian (track 4, id 0xb) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 6, German (track 5, id 0xc) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 7, Spanish (track 6, id 0xd) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 8, Chinese (track 7, id 0xe) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 9, Dutch (track 8, id 0xf) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 10, Spanish (track 9, id 0x10) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 11, French (track 10, id 0x11) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 12, Portuguese (track 11, id 0x12) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 13, Italian (track 12, id 0x13) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 14, German (track 13, id 0x14) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * subtitle track 15, Spanish (track 14, id 0x15) Picture [PGS] -> Passthrough
[16:35:04]  * audio track 1
[16:35:04]    + decoder: English (DTS) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 0x1)
[16:35:04]      + bitrate: 1536 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:35:04]    + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[16:35:04]    + encoder: AAC (libavcodec)
[16:35:04]      + bitrate: 320 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:35:04]  * audio track 2
[16:35:04]    + decoder: Francais (DTS) (5.1 ch) (track 2, id 0x2)
[16:35:04]      + bitrate: 768 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:35:04]    + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[16:35:04]    + encoder: AAC (libavcodec)
[16:35:04]      + bitrate: 128 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:35:04]  * audio track 3
[16:35:04]    + decoder: italiano (DTS) (5.1 ch) (track 4, id 0x4)
[16:35:04]      + bitrate: 768 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:35:04]    + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[16:35:04]    + encoder: AAC (libavcodec)
[16:35:04]      + bitrate: 128 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:35:04]  * audio track 4
[16:35:04]    + decoder: español (DTS) (5.1 ch) (track 6, id 0x6)
[16:35:04]      + bitrate: 768 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:35:04]    + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[16:35:04]    + encoder: AAC (libavcodec)
[16:35:04]      + bitrate: 128 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:35:04] sync: expecting 173411 video frames
[16:35:04] encx264: min-keyint: 24, keyint: 240
[16:35:04] encx264: encoding at constant RF 20.000000
[16:35:04] encx264: unparsed options: level=4.1:8x8dct=0:vbv-maxrate=50000:vbv-bufsize=62500
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX FMA3 AVX2 LZCNT BMI2
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 4.1
[16:35:04] sync: first pts video is 0
[16:35:04] sync: "Chapter 1" (1) at frame 1 time 0
[16:35:04] sync: first pts audio 0x1 is 0
[16:35:04] sync: first pts audio 0x2 is 0
[16:35:04] sync: first pts audio 0x4 is 0
[16:35:04] sync: first pts audio 0x6 is 0
[16:35:29] sync: first pts subtitle 0xa is 3126870
[16:35:29] sync: first pts subtitle 0xe is 3126870
[16:35:29] sync: first pts subtitle 0x12 is 3126870
[16:36:57] sync: "Chapter 2" (2) at frame 2605 time 9774765
[16:36:57] sync: first pts subtitle 0x7 is 9812340
[16:39:54] sync: first pts subtitle 0x8 is 21204900
[16:39:54] sync: first pts subtitle 0xc is 21204900
[16:39:54] sync: first pts subtitle 0xd is 21204900
[16:39:54] sync: first pts subtitle 0xf is 21204900
[16:39:54] sync: first pts subtitle 0x10 is 21204900
[16:39:54] sync: first pts subtitle 0x14 is 21204900
[16:39:54] sync: first pts subtitle 0x9 is 21212460
[16:39:54] sync: first pts subtitle 0xb is 21238740
[16:41:06] sync: "Chapter 3" (3) at frame 7034 time 26400123
[16:43:36] sync: first pts subtitle 0x13 is 38216970
[16:43:36] sync: first pts subtitle 0x15 is 38216970
[16:45:50] sync: first pts subtitle 0x11 is 47946690
[16:46:10] sync: "Chapter 4" (4) at frame 13188 time 49500701
[16:54:36] sync: "Chapter 5" (5) at frame 22909 time 85990905
[16:59:47] sync: "Chapter 6" (6) at frame 28582 time 107285928
[17:05:46] sync: "Chapter 7" (7) at frame 35398 time 132871488
[17:09:28] sync: "Chapter 8" (8) at frame 39588 time 148599701
[17:12:01] sync: "Chapter 9" (9) at frame 43137 time 161921760
[17:17:42] sync: "Chapter 10" (10) at frame 49870 time 187195758
[17:27:01] sync: "Chapter 11" (11) at frame 59923 time 224932207
[17:39:39] sync: "Chapter 12" (12) at frame 68615 time 257559802
[17:52:59] sync: "Chapter 13" (13) at frame 76402 time 286790253
[18:04:41] sync: "Chapter 14" (14) at frame 83416 time 313119056
[18:14:39] sync: "Chapter 15" (15) at frame 89913 time 337507170
[18:23:20] sync: "Chapter 16" (16) at frame 95848 time 359785676
[18:31:19] sync: "Chapter 17" (17) at frame 101923 time 382589707
[18:36:21] sync: "Chapter 18" (18) at frame 105392 time 395611466
[18:52:36] sync: "Chapter 19" (19) at frame 116928 time 438914726
[19:07:44] sync: "Chapter 20" (20) at frame 125341 time 470495025
[19:22:34] sync: "Chapter 21" (21) at frame 135524 time 508719461
[19:28:25] sync: "Chapter 22" (22) at frame 139164 time 522383111
[19:34:17] sync: "Chapter 23" (23) at frame 143446 time 538456668
[19:39:43] sync: "Chapter 24" (24) at frame 147440 time 553449146
[19:47:45] sync: "Chapter 25" (25) at frame 153180 time 574995671
[19:54:57] sync: "Chapter 26" (26) at frame 158749 time 595900305
[20:04:56] sync: "Chapter 27" (27) at frame 166113 time 623542920
[20:12:54] sync: "Chapter 28" (28) at frame 171536 time 643899506
[20:15:25] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[20:15:30] work: average encoding speed for job is 13.112189 fps
[20:15:30] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[20:15:30] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[20:15:30] dca-decoder done: 678064 frames, 0 decoder errors
[20:15:30] dca-decoder done: 678064 frames, 0 decoder errors
[20:15:30] dca-decoder done: 678064 frames, 0 decoder errors
[20:15:30] dca-decoder done: 678064 frames, 0 decoder errors
[20:15:30] h264-decoder done: 173411 frames, 0 decoder errors
[20:15:30] sync: got 173411 frames, 173411 expected
[20:15:30] sync: framerate min 23.981 fps, max 23.981 fps, avg 23.976 fps
x264 [info]: frame I:1677  Avg QP:17.06  size:114883
x264 [info]: frame P:74911 Avg QP:20.01  size: 29131
x264 [info]: frame B:96823 Avg QP:21.32  size: 16427
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 25.3%  0.5%  1.0% 73.2%
x264 [info]: mb I  I16..4: 24.7%  0.0% 75.3%
x264 [info]: mb P  I16..4:  1.2%  0.0%  1.7%  P16..4: 54.3% 16.1% 11.9%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:14.8%
x264 [info]: mb B  I16..4:  0.2%  0.0%  0.1%  B16..8: 63.7%  4.7%  0.6%  direct: 4.4%  skip:26.2%  L0:47.4% L1:50.7% BI: 1.9%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 85.9% 71.8% 32.8% inter: 23.6% 37.7% 0.6%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 25% 13% 21% 41%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 19% 16% 24%  8%  9%  7%  8%  5%  6%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 59% 17% 19%  4%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:4.8% UV:1.5%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 50.2%  9.2% 26.0% 14.0%  0.6%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 75.4% 18.8%  5.7%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 89.0% 11.0%
x264 [info]: kb/s:4386.15
[20:15:30] mux: track 0, 173411 frames, 3965390629 bytes, 4386.08 kbps, fifo 1024
[20:15:30] mux: track 1, 339032 frames, 290477912 bytes, 321.29 kbps, fifo 2048
[20:15:30] mux: track 2, 339032 frames, 115840191 bytes, 128.13 kbps, fifo 2048
[20:15:30] mux: track 3, 339032 frames, 115835472 bytes, 128.12 kbps, fifo 2048
[20:15:30] mux: track 4, 339032 frames, 115643631 bytes, 127.91 kbps, fifo 2048
[20:15:30] mux: track 5, 2282 frames, 22612560 bytes, 25.01 kbps, fifo 32
[20:15:30] mux: track 6, 1898 frames, 19936947 bytes, 22.05 kbps, fifo 32
[20:15:30] mux: track 7, 1715 frames, 18530496 bytes, 20.50 kbps, fifo 32
[20:15:30] mux: track 8, 1900 frames, 19676389 bytes, 21.76 kbps, fifo 32
[20:15:30] mux: track 9, 1771 frames, 17980685 bytes, 19.89 kbps, fifo 32
[20:15:30] mux: track 10, 1865 frames, 19716883 bytes, 21.81 kbps, fifo 32
[20:15:30] mux: track 11, 1765 frames, 17918357 bytes, 19.82 kbps, fifo 32
[20:15:30] mux: track 12, 1762 frames, 15241454 bytes, 16.86 kbps, fifo 32
[20:15:30] mux: track 13, 1539 frames, 16301312 bytes, 18.03 kbps, fifo 32
[20:15:30] mux: track 14, 14 frames, 153162 bytes, 0.17 kbps, fifo 8
[20:15:30] mux: track 15, 6 frames, 83651 bytes, 0.09 kbps, fifo 8
[20:15:30] mux: track 16, 12 frames, 115565 bytes, 0.13 kbps, fifo 8
[20:15:30] mux: track 17, 8 frames, 98797 bytes, 0.11 kbps, fifo 8
[20:15:30] mux: track 18, 8 frames, 106801 bytes, 0.12 kbps, fifo 8
[20:15:30] mux: track 19, 6 frames, 80753 bytes, 0.09 kbps, fifo 8
[20:15:30] libhb: work result = 0

# Encode Completed ...

Woodstock
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Re: Some questions about black bars and cropping them.

Post by Woodstock »

If subtitles are involved, cropping can get complicated. Handbrake will make an "educated guess" at cropping on its own, because the default behaviour is to remove the letterboxing, but many movies and TV series draw their subtitles to be IN those black bars, so cropping will cause them to be resized to fit the reduced screen space. Text-based subtitles can act differently than graphics-based subtitles (like found on DVD and BD sources), but those are rare on commercial disks.

If subtitles are important, it may be better to force cropping OFF (custom with all dimensions set to zero), and accept the larger file size.
alexd15
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Re: Some questions about black bars and cropping them.

Post by alexd15 »

After some trial and error, I've come to realize that subtitles on most Blu-rays are PGS (Presentation Grapic Stream) files and they are essentially image overlays (bitmap images) rather that an adaptive free form text like SRT subtitles which are essentially just smart text files.

So when I crop or reduce the image size the PGS subtitles shrink or expand weirdly depending on adjustments. However, an SRT file will adapt to whatever dimensions I use. So with that knowledge I used subscene.com to find an SRT subtitle file to add to the video after encoding with handbrake. So I just didn't include subtitles in handbreak and instead added them after with mkvtoolnix.download
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BradleyS
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Re: Some questions about black bars and cropping them.

Post by BradleyS »

Hmm, I'm under the impression that PGS subtitles should scale keeping their appropriate aspect ratio; meaning not stretching or expanding weirdly, only getting larger or smaller to match the video dimensions.

Please try updating to HandBrake 1.1.0 and let us know if you still experience odd behavior so we can look into it.
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Re: Some questions about black bars and cropping them.

Post by Deleted User 11865 »

HandBrake doesn't scale PGS subtitles unless you're burning them in, so any scaling quirks if passing them through is down to whatever software you're using to play the file, FWIW.
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