Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
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Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Description of problem or question
I convert my DVDs and other media with Handbrake for my Kodi Mediacenter. I always select the Subtitles in different languages to be able to swtich them on or off (NOT burned in). However, they are only shown in any video player as very hard readable opaque subs. I have seen many other files where they are displayed crsip, white with strong contrast.
Steps to reproduce the problem (If Applicable)
Rip a DVD. Convert any movie with subtitles selected (not forced, burned in or such)
HandBrake version (e.g., 1.0.0)
Current.
Operating system and version (e.g., Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, macOS 10.3 High Sierra, Windows 10 Creators Update)
Windows 10 x64
Provide a URL from any image hosting site.
http://goo.gl/3WvcTB
(password: handbrake)
Is there any way to modify the appearance of the subtitles? Preferably for a whole bunch of files, as I do not want to recode my quite extensive collection (and certainly don't want to re-rip all my DVDs...)?
I convert my DVDs and other media with Handbrake for my Kodi Mediacenter. I always select the Subtitles in different languages to be able to swtich them on or off (NOT burned in). However, they are only shown in any video player as very hard readable opaque subs. I have seen many other files where they are displayed crsip, white with strong contrast.
Steps to reproduce the problem (If Applicable)
Rip a DVD. Convert any movie with subtitles selected (not forced, burned in or such)
HandBrake version (e.g., 1.0.0)
Current.
Operating system and version (e.g., Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, macOS 10.3 High Sierra, Windows 10 Creators Update)
Windows 10 x64
Provide a URL from any image hosting site.
http://goo.gl/3WvcTB
(password: handbrake)
Is there any way to modify the appearance of the subtitles? Preferably for a whole bunch of files, as I do not want to recode my quite extensive collection (and certainly don't want to re-rip all my DVDs...)?
Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Handbrake is only "responsible" for the appearance of subtitles if you have handbrake burn them in, and then it uses the information the subtitle file itself to control the display.
When you do not burn them in, the subtitle data is passed through to the viewing application, which apparently doesn't like what it got. You might be able to fix that by changing the viewer's subtitle settings. I've noticed that a LOT of viewers suck at rendering SRT and SSA subtitles, which is why I burn them in with handbrake.
When you do not burn them in, the subtitle data is passed through to the viewing application, which apparently doesn't like what it got. You might be able to fix that by changing the viewer's subtitle settings. I've noticed that a LOT of viewers suck at rendering SRT and SSA subtitles, which is why I burn them in with handbrake.
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Well, this hardly explains what I see. I use Kodi 17 (Raspi3), Zoom Player, MX Player (Android) and ALL schow the same bad unreadable subtitles. However, when I download a file with subtitles (MKV Container) from the internet, the Subtitles are clear, white and high contracts. I did not change anything regarding the Subtitles settings.
However, I also noticed when I tried to change anything in the Kodi Subtitle settings (e.g. position, color, size etc.), NOTHING changes with the displayed ones.
I still believe this is a Handbrake problem.
However, I also noticed when I tried to change anything in the Kodi Subtitle settings (e.g. position, color, size etc.), NOTHING changes with the displayed ones.
I still believe this is a Handbrake problem.
Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
We need to see an encode log please.
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
How can I generate one of those?
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
The original subtitle is being passed through to the file, so handbrake has no control over its content or display. The VOBSUB subtitle type is an image created by the author to be overlaid on the video, so you'd expect them to have selected the color and background to make it usable.[12:28:45] * subtitle track 1, English (track 0, id 0x20bd) Picture [VOBSUB] -> Passthrough
[12:28:45] mask erode thread started for segment 3
Given the shear number of subtitles found, though, are you sure you're including the correct ones? On some recent movies, I've found that subtitle 9 or 10 is the correct "English" subtitle, even though 5 or 6 of them SAY they're English.
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Yes, as I always add ALL subtitles. There is no difference in display for the subtitles. When I play it from DVD, the subs are very readable. Also, it is identical dsiplayed on ALL DVDs and Bluerays I have.
So, how can I make them readable? Preferably without having to rip all my DVDs again...
Well, one more idea, maybe I am thinking this wrong: I ripped the files with AnyDVD first. Is is possible that THERE the problem occurred?
Is is possible to remove the subs with Handbrak then and add other ones? Is there a way to download them somewhere and add them?
So, how can I make them readable? Preferably without having to rip all my DVDs again...
Well, one more idea, maybe I am thinking this wrong: I ripped the files with AnyDVD first. Is is possible that THERE the problem occurred?
Is is possible to remove the subs with Handbrak then and add other ones? Is there a way to download them somewhere and add them?
Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Either HandBrake didn't copy the vobsub palette the right way, or your player doesn't read the vobsub palette. Can you upload a 10 seconds sample too?
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Mmh. Any instructions how to do that? From the DVD? The DVD Rip? The Converted File?
Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Yeah a sample of the file converted from the DVD. So you use the DVD as a source, but instead of encoding the whole feature, you encode by seconds (where you select chapter ranges, you can also switch to frame-based or seconds-based ranges). You want to select a segment where you know there will be subtitle packets in the output.
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
After some trials with different medias, I could identify the problem being when the contents of a DVD/BlueRay is preripped with AnyDVD. AnyDVD has as standard settings "50% Transparency" for subtitles and obivous includes them as graphic layer. This explains the bad quality.
When using Handbrake directly, it works fine as well when the settings in AnyDVD are changed to 0% transparency.
It seems that the subtitle quality with Handbrake is also better, so it was my mistake not to use that option in the first place.
Now, back carrying all the movies from storage and reripping them to get better quality will be a lot of fun
Anyways, thank you for your support.
When using Handbrake directly, it works fine as well when the settings in AnyDVD are changed to 0% transparency.
It seems that the subtitle quality with Handbrake is also better, so it was my mistake not to use that option in the first place.
Now, back carrying all the movies from storage and reripping them to get better quality will be a lot of fun
Anyways, thank you for your support.
Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
You should consider using MakeMKV to rip, then feed the MKV files to handbrake. You can do the rip much quicker when you're not doing the encode at the same time, then handbrake can work its way through the queue.
And if you have multiple drives available, multiple instances of MakeMKV can be run... I go through about 4-12 disks per hour for ripping on a 2-drive system.
And if you have multiple drives available, multiple instances of MakeMKV can be run... I go through about 4-12 disks per hour for ripping on a 2-drive system.
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Thanks for the tipp. I will try that. Hopefully this will take then less time to get my collection back together than the last time - it is rather extensive.
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Oh, you said EXTENSIVE, not EXPENSIVE.... Although it was probably both.
I need to stop re-ripping stuff as I find better ways to do it, then I could move all these boxes so I can finally build my office...
I need to stop re-ripping stuff as I find better ways to do it, then I could move all these boxes so I can finally build my office...
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
I can understand that, luckily I have some space in the basement where I can pile up the cartons with all the DVDs and Bluerays. But still, I rather have the disc than have to rely on a streaming provider. You'll never know when they stop existing and all you money goes down the drain.
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Or you build an office with DVD boxes
Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
AnyDVD has a "rip to folder" feature too, you don't necessarily need to use MakeMKV. Don't use "rip to image" as it won't necessarily remove all forms of structure-based copy protection and may fail to encode via HandBrake.
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Now I am totally confused. When using MakeMKV I have all the subtitles in the MKV file. Putting this file through Handbrake removes all subtitles, although they are selected. That is not happening with a AnyDVD Rip. Is this a problem when converting MKV?
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Can you post your logs.
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Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
It does not make sense I believe - when I rip now this specific BlueRay with AnyDVD and then go via Handbrake, the subs are gone too.
When I can identify this in detail, I'll post them. Maybe my PC just has a bad day.
When I can identify this in detail, I'll post them. Maybe my PC just has a bad day.
Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
Since virtually everything I rip involves subtitles, and everything I rip is done as MakeMKV->Handbrake->server, I know subtitles in general work with this work flow. That's where the logs are going to come in, so we can see what handbrake saw with the AnyDVD rip.
Re: Subtitles Unreadable when created with handbrake
It's not that, it's the specific source format/characteristics and selections you made.PotatoCarl wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:40 amWhen I can identify this in detail, I'll post them. Maybe my PC just has a bad day.