Shaky/Jerky Encode...Why???

[woodr2011]

Hi everyone,

I am having a difficult time encoding the DVD of Blair Witch 2: Book of Shadows. The primary issue is evidently something to do with the frame rate. When using the same settings as the Roku 480 preset, HB sets the frame rate to 23, resulting in VERY shaky/choppy output--particularly during pan&scan scenes. When I raise the frame rate to 29, it resolves somewhat but I would like to have someone's input. The issue is particularly noticeable during chapter 5 as the camera pans up the tree that has supposedly appeared in the cellar hole of Rustin Parr's house. I also notice an unusually long pause at the end of the encode before it shows as being 100% finished. My log file is below. Many thanks for any help!


HandBrake 1.0.7 (2017040900) - 64bit
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.15063.0 - 64bit
CPU: AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Ram: 8126 MB,
GPU Information:
NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 - 22.21.13.8165
Screen: 1920x1080
-------------------------------------------


# Starting Encode ...

[16:11:07] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[16:11:07] 1 job(s) to process
[16:11:07] json job:
{
"Audio": {
"AudioList": [
{
"Bitrate": 160,
"DRC": 0.0,
"Encoder": 65536,
"Gain": 0.0,
"Mixdown": 4,
"NormalizeMixLevel": false,
"Samplerate": 0,
"Track": 0,
"DitherMethod": 0
}
],
"CopyMask": [
1073807360,
1073743872,
1074003968,
1073750016,
1090519040,
1074790400,
1074266112,
1107296256
],
"FallbackEncoder": 2048
},
"Destination": {
"ChapterList": [
{
"Name": "Fact or Fiction"
},
{
"Name": "\"One Year Later\""
},
{
"Name": "The Hunt Begins"
},
{
"Name": "\"That's Not What the Website Said...\""
},
{
"Name": "The Rustin Parr Ruins"
},
{
"Name": "Discourse on Hysteria"
},
{
"Name": "Mystery at Coffin Rock"
},
{
"Name": "Party in the Woods"
},
{
"Name": "The Tapes Survive"
},
{
"Name": "An Emergency"
},
{
"Name": "Exploitation 101"
},
{
"Name": "Video Dreams"
},
{
"Name": "Reality Halted"
},
{
"Name": "\"We Brought Something Back\""
},
{
"Name": "Bad Service"
},
{
"Name": "The Light of Darkness"
},
{
"Name": "Deadly Accusation"
},
{
"Name": "Who Do you Trust?"
},
{
"Name": "\"You Know What to Do\""
},
{
"Name": "A File of Lies"
},
{
"Name": "Jeff's Psychosis"
},
{
"Name": "\"Everything Backwards\""
},
{
"Name": "Kill the Witch"
},
{
"Name": "Video Equals Truth"
},
{
"Name": "End Credits"
},
{
"Name": ""
}
],
"ChapterMarkers": true,
"File": "E:\\Users\\Ryan\\Downloads\\Blair Witch 2-1.mp4",
"Mp4Options": {
"IpodAtom": false,
"Mp4Optimize": true
},
"Mux": 131072
},
"Filters": {
"FilterList": [
{
"ID": 4,
"Settings": {
"mode": "7"
}
},
{
"ID": 3,
"Settings": {
"block-height": "16",
"block-thresh": "80",
"block-width": "16",
"filter-mode": "1",
"mode": "0",
"motion-thresh": "2",
"spatial-metric": "2",
"spatial-thresh": "3"
}
},
{
"ID": 11,
"Settings": {
"crop-bottom": "6",
"crop-left": "0",
"crop-right": "6",
"crop-top": "2",
"height": "472",
"width": "714"
}
},
{
"ID": 6,
"Settings": {
"mode": "1",
"rate": "27000000/900900"
}
}
]
},
"PAR": {
"Num": 32,
"Den": 27
},
"Metadata": {},
"SequenceID": 0,
"Source": {
"Angle": 1,
"Range": {
"Type": "chapter",
"Start": 1,
"End": 26
},
"Title": 1,
"Path": "E:\\Users\\Ryan\\Downloads\\BLAIR_WITCH_2"
},
"Subtitle": {
"Search": {
"Burn": false,
"Default": false,
"Enable": false,
"Forced": false
},
"SubtitleList": [
{
"Burn": false,
"Default": true,
"Forced": false,
"ID": 1,
"Offset": 0,
"Track": 0
}
]
},
"Video": {
"Encoder": 65536,
"Level": "4.0",
"TwoPass": false,
"Turbo": false,
"ColorMatrixCode": 0,
"Options": "",
"Preset": "medium",
"Profile": "main",
"Quality": 18.0,
"OpenCL": false,
"HWDecode": false,
"QSV": {
"Decode": false,
"AsyncDepth": 0
}
}
}
[16:11:07] CPU:
[16:11:07] - logical processor count: 4
[16:11:07] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[16:11:07] hb_scan: path=E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2, title_index=1
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:352: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:352: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
[16:11:07] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 5.0.1
libdvdread: Could not open E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 for reading
libdvdread: Device E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
libdvdnav: Unable to open device file E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2.
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
libdvdread: Could not open E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 for reading
libdvdread: Device E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
[16:11:07] scan: DVD has 11 title(s)
[16:11:07] scan: scanning title 1
[16:11:07] scan: opening IFO for VTS 1
[16:11:07] scan: duration is 01:30:08 (5408266 ms)
[16:11:07] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000001E50D787010
[16:11:07] scan: vts=1, ttn=1, cells=0->29, blocks=0->2005434, 2005435 blocks
[16:11:07] scan: checking audio 1
[16:11:07] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[16:11:07] scan: checking audio 2
[16:11:07] scan: id=0x81bd, lang=español (AC3), 3cc=spa ext=0
[16:11:07] scan: checking audio 3
[16:11:07] scan: id=0x82bd, lang=Francais (AC3), 3cc=fra ext=0
[16:11:07] scan: checking audio 4
[16:11:07] scan: id=0x83bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=3
[16:11:07] scan: checking audio 5
[16:11:07] scan: id=0x84bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=3
[16:11:07] scan: title 1 has 26 chapters
[16:11:07] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->62639 (62640), 199200 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=62640->104020 (41381), 98967 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 3 c=2->2, b=104021->188246 (84226), 187800 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 4 c=3->3, b=188247->233050 (44804), 116533 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 5 c=4->4, b=233051->354311 (121261), 268667 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 6 c=5->5, b=354312->457086 (102775), 236500 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 7 c=6->6, b=457087->527242 (70156), 165500 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 8 c=7->8, b=527243->564077 (36835), 103500 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 9 c=9->10, b=564078->665237 (101160), 293334 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 10 c=11->11, b=665238->712247 (47010), 132000 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 11 c=12->12, b=712248->806208 (93961), 254000 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 12 c=13->13, b=806209->911024 (104816), 333000 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 13 c=14->14, b=911025->989280 (78256), 233000 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 14 c=15->15, b=989281->1052996 (63716), 196000 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 15 c=16->16, b=1052997->1126108 (73112), 214934 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 16 c=17->17, b=1126109->1211350 (85242), 246166 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 17 c=18->18, b=1211351->1291992 (80642), 241000 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 18 c=19->19, b=1291993->1334926 (42934), 138500 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 19 c=20->20, b=1334927->1397188 (62262), 181500 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 20 c=21->21, b=1397189->1434883 (37695), 117500 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 21 c=22->22, b=1434884->1476159 (41276), 127500 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 22 c=23->23, b=1476160->1598238 (122079), 331333 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 23 c=24->25, b=1598239->1691646 (93408), 276000 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 24 c=26->27, b=1691647->1826859 (135213), 384000 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 25 c=28->28, b=1826860->2005429 (178570), 330834 ms
[16:11:07] scan: chap 26 c=29->29, b=2005430->2005434 (5), 1000 ms
[16:11:07] scan: aspect = 16:9
[16:11:07] scan: decoding previews for title 1
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
[16:11:07] scan: title angle(s) 1
[ac3 @ 000001e50d08a100] frame sync error
[16:11:07] scan: audio 0x80bd: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 English (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[ac3 @ 000001e50d0882c0] frame sync error
[16:11:07] scan: audio 0x81bd: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 español (AC3) (2.0 ch) (Dolby Surround)
[ac3 @ 000001e50d08a100] frame sync error
[16:11:07] scan: audio 0x82bd: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 Francais (AC3) (2.0 ch) (Dolby Surround)
[ac3 @ 000001e50d0882c0] frame sync error
[16:11:07] scan: audio 0x83bd: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Director's Commentary 1) (2.0 ch) (Dolby Surround)
[ac3 @ 000001e50d0882c0] frame sync error
[16:11:07] scan: audio 0x84bd: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (Director's Commentary 1) (2.0 ch) (Dolby Surround)
[16:11:07] scan: 10 previews, 720x480, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 2/6/0/6, aspect 16:9, PAR 32:27
[16:11:07] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[16:11:07] starting job
[16:11:07] decomb filter thread started for segment 0
[16:11:07] decomb filter thread started for segment 1
[16:11:07] decomb filter thread started for segment 2
[16:11:07] decomb filter thread started for segment 3
[16:11:07] decomb check thread started for segment 0
[16:11:07] decomb check thread started for segment 1
[16:11:07] decomb check thread started for segment 2
[16:11:07] decomb check thread started for segment 3
[16:11:07] yadif thread started for segment 0
[16:11:07] yadif thread started for segment 1
[16:11:07] yadif thread started for segment 2
[16:11:07] yadif thread started for segment 3
[16:11:07] work: track 1, dithering not supported by codec
[16:11:07] job configuration:
[16:11:07] * source
[16:11:07] + E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2
[16:11:07] + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 26
[16:11:07] * destination
[16:11:07] + E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\Blair Witch 2-1.mp4
[16:11:07] + container: MPEG-4 (libavformat)
[16:11:07] + optimized for HTTP streaming (fast start)
[16:11:07] + chapter markers
[16:11:07] * video track
[16:11:07] + decoder: mpeg2video
[16:11:07] + bitrate 9801 kbps
[16:11:07] + filters
[16:11:07] + Comb Detect (mode=0:spatial-metric=2:motion-thresh=2:spatial-thresh=3:filter-mode=1:block-thresh=80:block-width=16:block-height=16)
[16:11:07] + Decomb (mode=39)
[16:11:07] + Framerate Shaper (mode=1:rate=27000000/900900)
[16:11:07] + frame rate: 23.976 fps -> constant 29.970 fps
[16:11:07] + Crop and Scale (width=714:height=472:crop-top=2:crop-bottom=6:crop-left=0:crop-right=6)
[16:11:07] + source: 720 * 480, crop (2/6/0/6): 714 * 472, scale: 714 * 472
[16:11:07] + Output geometry
[16:11:07] + storage dimensions: 714 x 472
[16:11:07] + pixel aspect ratio: 32 : 27
[16:11:07] + display dimensions: 846 x 472
[16:11:07] + encoder: H.264 (libx264)
[16:11:07] + preset: medium
[16:11:07] + profile: main
[16:11:07] + level: 4.0
[16:11:07] + quality: 18.00 (RF)
[16:11:07] * subtitle track 1, Closed Captions (track 0, id 0x0) Text [CC] -> Passthrough, Default
[16:11:07] * audio track 1
[16:11:07] + decoder: English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 0x80bd)
[16:11:07] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:11:07] + mixdown: Stereo
[16:11:07] + encoder: AAC (libavcodec)
[16:11:07] + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 5.0.1
libdvdread: Could not open E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 for reading
libdvdread: Device E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
libdvdnav: Unable to open device file E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2.
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
libdvdread: Could not open E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 for reading
libdvdread: Device E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2 inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00000000. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
[16:11:07] sync: expecting 129668 video frames
[16:11:07] encx264: min-keyint: 30, keyint: 300
[16:11:07] encx264: encoding at constant RF 18.000000
[16:11:07] encx264: unparsed options: level=4.0:8x8dct=0:vbv-bufsize=25000:vbv-maxrate=20000
x264 [info]: using SAR=32/27
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX XOP FMA4 FMA3 LZCNT BMI1
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 4.0
[16:11:07] sync: first pts video is 0
[16:11:07] sync: "Fact or Fiction" (1) at frame 1 time 0
[16:11:07] sync: first pts audio 0x80bd is 0
[16:11:18] sync: first pts subtitle 0x0 is 3204201
[16:11:19] 39.756378s: Video -> Film
[16:12:31] sync: ""One Year Later"" (2) at frame 5020 time 17946679
[16:12:31] 199.432571s: Film -> Video
[16:12:33] 204.420883s: Video -> Film
[16:13:24] 298.364746s: Film -> Video
[16:13:24] sync: "The Hunt Begins" (3) at frame 7426 time 26862586
[16:13:26] 303.686707s: Video -> Film
[16:14:32] 396.304260s: Film -> Video
[16:14:44] 420.470032s: Video -> Film
[16:15:16] sync: ""That's Not What the Website Said..."" (4) at frame 12111 time 43788245
[16:15:35] 524.590759s: Film -> Video
[16:15:44] 540.590027s: Video -> Film
[16:16:17] sync: "The Rustin Parr Ruins" (5) at frame 15004 time 54287484
[16:16:58] 681.247192s: Film -> Video
[16:19:00] sync: "Discourse on Hysteria" (6) at frame 22596 time 78490163
[16:21:21] sync: "Mystery at Coffin Rock" (7) at frame 29691 time 99796448
[16:23:02] sync: "Party in the Woods" (8) at frame 34656 time 114706343
[16:24:03] sync: "The Tapes Survive" (9) at frame 37761 time 124030658
[16:24:36] 1426.975586s: Video -> Film
[16:26:24] sync: "An Emergency" (10) at frame 45094 time 150458560
[16:26:27] 1678.576904s: Film -> Video
[16:27:24] sync: "Exploitation 101" (11) at frame 49013 time 162348939
[16:28:09] sync: subtitle 0x0 has no duration, PTS 170276106
[16:28:13] 1900.615479s: Video -> Film
[16:29:03] 2011.075684s: Film -> Video
[16:29:24] sync: "Video Dreams" (12) at frame 55971 time 185231800
[16:31:39] sync: "Reality Halted" (13) at frame 65961 time 215231770
[16:33:21] sync: ""We Brought Something Back"" (14) at frame 72951 time 236222740
[16:33:31] 2647.695068s: Video -> Film
[16:33:51] 2702.099365s: Film -> Video
[16:34:44] sync: "Bad Service" (15) at frame 78505 time 253880381
[16:35:43] 2949.329834s: Video -> Film
[16:36:06] 3007.738037s: Film -> Video
[16:36:09] 3014.728516s: Video -> Film
[16:36:17] 3035.932861s: Film -> Video
[16:36:17] sync: "The Light of Darkness" (16) at frame 84474 time 273237721
[16:38:11] sync: "Deadly Accusation" (17) at frame 91861 time 295420882
[16:40:03] sync: "Who Do you Trust?" (18) at frame 99091 time 317132572
[16:41:02] sync: ""You Know What to Do"" (19) at frame 103246 time 329610037
[16:42:26] sync: "A File of Lies" (20) at frame 108691 time 345961372
[16:43:23] sync: "Jeff's Psychosis" (21) at frame 112216 time 356546947
[16:44:26] sync: ""Everything Backwards"" (22) at frame 116041 time 368033422
[16:45:23] 4214.860840s: Video -> Film
[16:47:13] 4419.748535s: Film -> Video
[16:47:13] 4419.898926s: Video -> Film
[16:47:14] sync: "Kill the Witch" (23) at frame 124747 time 397884745
[16:49:35] sync: "Video Equals Truth" (24) at frame 131371 time 422749585
[16:49:57] 4741.069336s: Film -> Video
[16:52:46] 5076.721680s: Video -> Film
[16:52:48] sync: "End Credits" (25) at frame 142599 time 457344146
[16:55:38] 5404.398926s: Film -> Video
[16:55:40] reader: done. 2 scr changes
[16:55:41] work: average encoding speed for job is 56.319317 fps
[16:55:41] comb detect: heavy 29537 | light 5285 | uncombed 115765 | total 150587
[16:55:41] decomb: deinterlaced 29537 | blended 5285 | unfiltered 115765 | total 150587
[16:55:41] vfr: 162219 frames output, 0 dropped and 11632 duped for CFR/PFR
[16:55:41] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[16:55:41] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[16:55:41] ac3-decoder done: 169146 frames, 0 decoder errors
[16:55:41] mpeg2video-decoder done: 150587 frames, 0 decoder errors
[16:55:41] sync: got 150587 frames, 129668 expected
[16:55:41] sync: framerate min 23.981 fps, max 39.964 fps, avg 27.821 fps
x264 [info]: frame I:2133 Avg QP:15.04 size: 34679
x264 [info]: frame P:45154 Avg QP:17.95 size: 13041
x264 [info]: frame B:114932 Avg QP:20.95 size: 3221
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 2.7% 5.7% 8.2% 83.4%
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 24.2% 0.0% 75.8%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 2.1% 0.0% 8.0% P16..4: 39.3% 23.9% 13.8% 0.0% 0.0% skip:12.9%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.1% 0.0% 0.9% B16..8: 42.0% 5.4% 1.3% direct: 4.1% skip:46.3% L0:42.2% L1:48.3% BI: 9.5%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 83.0% 86.2% 57.6% inter: 18.6% 25.0% 2.4%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 31% 16% 16% 37%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 27% 15% 15% 7% 8% 8% 7% 7% 6%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 50% 19% 24% 8%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:5.6% UV:2.3%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 58.3% 13.1% 20.6% 7.6% 0.4%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 87.8% 10.1% 2.1%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 96.6% 3.4%
x264 [info]: kb/s:1526.84
[mp4 @ 000001e51f552d60] Starting second pass: moving the moov atom to the beginning of the file
[16:55:46] mux: track 0, 162219 frames, 1032982372 bytes, 1526.74 kbps, fifo 4096
[16:55:46] mux: track 1, 253719 frames, 108433133 bytes, 160.26 kbps, fifo 8192
[16:55:46] mux: track 2, 1564 frames, 117661 bytes, 0.17 kbps, fifo 64
[16:55:46] libhb: work result = 0

# Encode Completed ...

[Woodstock]

It's hard to tell what frame rates are used on downloaded content. Each torrent creator could do a variety of things to make it hard to process.

Have you tried it with the original disk?

[woodr2011]

It's hard to tell what frame rates are used on downloaded content. Each torrent creator could do a variety of things to make it hard to process.

Have you tried it with the original disk?

Hi - I don't torrent. I own the original disc. I tried encoding directly from the disc in HB and noticed the shaky/jerky issue and then I CC'd the entire disc to my hard drive with Pavtube and tried encoding it again through HB (still the same problem).

[Woodstock]

On a NTSC DVD, the frame rate is normally set at 29.97 fps. If the original film was nominally 24fps, the ability to bring it BACK to 24fps depends on how the disk was mastered. This may explain the jerkiness:

[16:55:41] comb detect: heavy 29537 | light 5285 | uncombed 115765 | total 150587
[16:55:41] decomb: deinterlaced 29537 | blended 5285 | unfiltered 115765 | total 150587
[16:55:41] vfr: 162219 frames output, 0 dropped and 11632 duped for CFR/PFR

The duplicate frames will make it look like the panning paused, then moved on.

What is below may not be the correct setting - it's from my vague recollection of other messages similar to yours, but it isn't part of my work flow, so I having committed it to "real" memory. And I'm sure someone who knows better will correct me if it's wrong:

Choosing "BOB" for the deinterlace method, rather than decomb, may help with this. It is slower than decomb, which is probably why it isn't the default.

[woodr2011]

On a NTSC DVD, the frame rate is normally set at 29.97 fps. If the original film was nominally 24fps, the ability to bring it BACK to 24fps depends on how the disk was mastered. This may explain the jerkiness:

[16:55:41] comb detect: heavy 29537 | light 5285 | uncombed 115765 | total 150587
[16:55:41] decomb: deinterlaced 29537 | blended 5285 | unfiltered 115765 | total 150587
[16:55:41] vfr: 162219 frames output, 0 dropped and 11632 duped for CFR/PFR

The duplicate frames will make it look like the panning paused, then moved on.

What is below may not be the correct setting - it's from my vague recollection of other messages similar to yours, but it isn't part of my work flow, so I having committed it to "real" memory. And I'm sure someone who knows better will correct me if it's wrong:

Choosing "BOB" for the deinterlace method, rather than decomb, may help with this. It is slower than decomb, which is probably why it isn't the default.

Many thanks for the suggestion! I will give it a go and reply with the results.

[woodr2011]

Hi Woodstock - The "Bob" setting appears as a preset under the Decomb filter, so I tried encoding the disc with that setting enabled. Unfortunately, it did not help the issue. HB still throws the frame rate back to 23. There is another preset under Decomb called "EEDI2Bob." Is this possibly the optimal setting? Pavtube Video Converter Ultimate encodes this disc successfully (without any jitter) with auto presets resulting in a frame rate of 29, so it seems there is something unique to this disc (perhaps the DRM?) that confuses HB when it comes time to assign the optimal frame rate. Setting a manual frame rate of 29.97 helps the issue somewhat but it still has a noticeable choppiness during panned scenes as I mentioned in the original post. Pavtube is a very dependable encoder, but it lacks the ability to recognize and name/re-name chapters, which is one of my priorities when ripping movies from my collection. I have never found a paid DVD ripper application that combines Pavtube's stability with HB's ability to handle chapter re-naming. Are you aware of anything?

[Woodstock]

I won't comment on Pavtube either way, because I don't want to get in the middle of that intellectual property fight.

What I'm remembering is that one of the deinterlace filters essentially doubles the frame rate, so that the transitional frames (where half the interlaced frame is the "old" position, and the other half is the "new" position) become two frames. Some detail is lost, but you still end up with the same number of "scans" of the image.

Again, this is not something I do in my workflow, so I didn't commit the terms or settings to active memory, so I can't be more detailed than this. It only works with interlaced video, and since I mainly buy Bluray now, interlacing is rare.

[mduell]

I think the real problem here is you picked constant 29.97 framerate with content that is not. Why would you pick that?

[woodr2011]

I think the real problem here is you picked constant 29.97 framerate with content that is not. Why would you pick that?

Hi - That's a very reasonable question. The answer is that choosing constant FR / same as source resulted in the jerkiness I described along with audio sync issues. I did a rip earlier today with Yadif/Bob/Fast enabled in the Deinterlace filter and 29.97 variable FR, and the encode looks flawless. This issue appears seemingly at random with some DVDs. I was advised early on in my experience with HB that one should NEVER use variable FR because it would actually result in the jerkiness issue; however, it seems that it is the cure for it when choosing constant FR has caused the problem. Do you recommend variable FR as a rule? I'm still learning HB, so I would appreciate your thoughts.

[Deleted User 11865]

Can you show us a screenshot of the filters tab? Sounds like it might be a Windows GUI bug somehow, same as source CFR should have selected 23.976 fps for you.

[mduell]

Hi - That's a very reasonable question. The answer is that choosing constant FR / same as source resulted in the jerkiness I described along with audio sync issues. I did a rip earlier today with Yadif/Bob/Fast enabled in the Deinterlace filter and 29.97 variable FR, and the encode looks flawless. This issue appears seemingly at random with some DVDs. I was advised early on in my experience with HB that one should NEVER use variable FR because it would actually result in the jerkiness issue;

You must have misunderstood since that is the opposite of reality.

Variable framerate is what you want unless you have some broken/decrepit post-Handbrake environment that doesn't support VFR.

[woodr2011]

Hi - That's a very reasonable question. The answer is that choosing constant FR / same as source resulted in the jerkiness I described along with audio sync issues. I did a rip earlier today with Yadif/Bob/Fast enabled in the Deinterlace filter and 29.97 variable FR, and the encode looks flawless. This issue appears seemingly at random with some DVDs. I was advised early on in my experience with HB that one should NEVER use variable FR because it would actually result in the jerkiness issue;

You must have misunderstood since that is the opposite of reality.

Variable framerate is what you want unless you have some broken/decrepit post-Handbrake environment that doesn't support VFR.

This is the video in which that advice is given. I'm neither endorsing nor condemning it. I merely stated that this is how I was advised early on in my experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIr25ky ... 6715815909

[mduell]

Pretty much every tutorial for HB on the web, whether video on Youtube or not, is full of bad info and suggestions. Idiots with no understanding love to churn out crap content.

[woodr2011]

Pretty much every tutorial for HB on the web, whether video on Youtube or not, is full of bad info and suggestions. Idiots with no understanding love to churn out crap content.

Unquestionably true. I will say that I ran an encode of the same disc with the Roku 480 preset (which includes either a peak or variable frame rate setting), and it reverted back to the jerky pan and scan issue that I mentioned originally. Could you possibly recommend a video tutorial to me that addresses this issue? I would appreciate your thoughts as I reserve no doubt that your understanding of this matter is trustworthy.

[mduell]

Post the encoding log for your variable framerate encode you say is jerky.

[woodr2011]

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HandBrake 1.0.7 (2017040900) - 64bit
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.15063.0 - 64bit
CPU: AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics   

# Starting Encode ...

[17:27:06] hb_init: starting libhb thread
[17:27:06] 1 job(s) to process
[17:27:06] json job:
{
  "Audio": {
    "AudioList": [
      {
        "Bitrate": 64,
        "DRC": 0.0,
        "Encoder": 65536,
        "Gain": 0.0,
        "Mixdown": 4,
        "NormalizeMixLevel": false,
        "Samplerate": 0,
        "Track": 0,
        "DitherMethod": 0
      }
    ],
    "CopyMask": [
      1073807360,
      1073743872,
      1074003968,
      1073750016,
      1090519040,
      1074790400,
      1074266112,
      1107296256
    ],
    "FallbackEncoder": 2048
  },
  "Destination": {
    "ChapterList": [
      {
        "Name": ""
      },
      {
        "Name": "Introduction"
      },
      {
        "Name": "The Warrior Pharaohs"
      },
      {
        "Name": "War and the Birth of an Empire"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Hatshepsut, Daughter of a God"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Tuthmosis III, the Conqueror of Megiddo"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Introduction"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Pharaohs of the Sun"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Amenhotep III, Protector of Peace and Prosperity"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Akhenaten and Nefertiti"
      },
      {
        "Name": "Tutankhamen: A Dynasty, a Country, an Empire"
      }
    ],
    "ChapterMarkers": true,
    "File": "E:\\Users\\Ryan\\Downloads\\Egypt-1.mp4",
    "Mp4Options": {
      "IpodAtom": false,
      "Mp4Optimize": true
    },
    "Mux": 131072
  },
  "Filters": {
    "FilterList": [
      {
        "ID": 5,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "7"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 3,
        "Settings": {
          "block-height": "16",
          "block-thresh": "80",
          "block-width": "16",
          "filter-mode": "1",
          "mode": "0",
          "motion-thresh": "2",
          "spatial-metric": "2",
          "spatial-thresh": "3"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 11,
        "Settings": {
          "crop-bottom": "58",
          "crop-left": "8",
          "crop-right": "4",
          "crop-top": "60",
          "height": "362",
          "width": "708"
        }
      },
      {
        "ID": 6,
        "Settings": {
          "mode": "0"
        }
      }
    ]
  },
  "PAR": {
    "Num": 8,
    "Den": 9
  },
  "Metadata": {},
  "SequenceID": 0,
  "Source": {
    "Angle": 1,
    "Range": {
      "Type": "chapter",
      "Start": 1,
      "End": 6
    },
    "Title": 1,
    "Path": "D:\\"
  },
  "Subtitle": {
    "Search": {
      "Burn": false,
      "Default": false,
      "Enable": false,
      "Forced": false
    },
    "SubtitleList": [
      {
        "Burn": false,
        "Default": true,
        "Forced": false,
        "ID": 1,
        "Offset": 0,
        "Track": 0
      }
    ]
  },
  "Video": {
    "Encoder": 65536,
    "Level": "auto",
    "TwoPass": false,
    "Turbo": false,
    "ColorMatrixCode": 0,
    "Options": "",
    "Preset": "fast",
    "Profile": "auto",
    "Quality": 16.0,
    "OpenCL": false,
    "HWDecode": false,
    "QSV": {
      "Decode": false,
      "AsyncDepth": 0
    }
  }
}
[17:27:06] CPU:
[17:27:06]  - logical processor count: 4
[17:27:06] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[17:27:06] hb_scan: path=D:\, title_index=1
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:352: error opening file BDMV\index.bdmv
src/libbluray/disc/disc.c:352: error opening file BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
[17:27:06] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 5.0.1
libdvdnav: Unable to open device file D:\.
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00be0000. Regions: 1 7
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0000012c
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x00002614
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0000279b
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x00299c35
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x0029b649
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 3 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
[17:27:11] scan: DVD has 5 title(s)
[17:27:11] scan: scanning title 1
[17:27:11] scan: opening IFO for VTS 1
[17:27:12] scan: duration is 01:47:35 (6455600 ms)
[17:27:12] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000001F377D7EB40
[17:27:12] scan: vts=1, ttn=1, cells=0->11, blocks=0->1803748, 1803749 blocks
[17:27:12] scan: checking audio 1
[17:27:12] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=Unknown (AC3), 3cc=und ext=0
[17:27:12] scan: checking subtitle 1
[17:27:12] scan: subtitle channel is not active
[17:27:12] scan: title 1 has 11 chapters
[17:27:12] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->133 (134), 867 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=134->39380 (39247), 133900 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 3 c=2->2, b=39381->150644 (111264), 399100 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 4 c=3->4, b=150645->337660 (187016), 653034 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 5 c=5->5, b=337661->591935 (254275), 946834 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 6 c=6->6, b=591936->901491 (309556), 1107600 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 7 c=7->7, b=901492->934172 (32681), 114834 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 8 c=8->8, b=934173->954044 (19872), 65000 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 9 c=9->9, b=954045->1296583 (342539), 1199033 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 10 c=10->10, b=1296584->1663081 (366498), 1299133 ms
[17:27:12] scan: chap 11 c=11->11, b=1663082->1803748 (140667), 536266 ms
[17:27:12] scan: aspect = 4:3
[17:27:12] scan: decoding previews for title 1
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00be0000. Regions: 1 7
[17:27:13] scan: title angle(s) 1
[ac3 @ 000001f37d107fc0] frame sync error
[17:27:13] scan: audio 0x80bd: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 Unknown (AC3) (2.0 ch)
[17:27:15] scan: 10 previews, 720x480, 29.970 fps, autocrop = 60/58/8/4, aspect 4:3, PAR 8:9
[17:27:15] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[17:27:15] starting job
[17:27:15] decomb filter thread started for segment 0
[17:27:15] decomb filter thread started for segment 3
[17:27:15] decomb filter thread started for segment 1
[17:27:15] decomb filter thread started for segment 2
[17:27:15] decomb check thread started for segment 0
[17:27:15] decomb check thread started for segment 1
[17:27:15] decomb check thread started for segment 2
[17:27:15] decomb check thread started for segment 3
[17:27:15] work: track 1, dithering not supported by codec
[17:27:15] job configuration:
[17:27:15]  * source
[17:27:15]    + D:\
[17:27:15]    + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 6
[17:27:15]  * destination
[17:27:15]    + E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\Egypt-1.mp4
[17:27:15]    + container: MPEG-4 (libavformat)
[17:27:15]      + optimized for HTTP streaming (fast start)
[17:27:15]      + chapter markers
[17:27:15]  * video track
[17:27:15]    + decoder: mpeg2video
[17:27:15]      + bitrate 8900 kbps
[17:27:15]    + filters
[17:27:15]      + Comb Detect (mode=0:spatial-metric=2:motion-thresh=2:spatial-thresh=3:filter-mode=1:block-thresh=80:block-width=16:block-height=16)
[17:27:15]      + avfilter (yadif='mode=1:auto=1')
[17:27:15]        + yadif: mode=1, auto=1
[17:27:15]      + Framerate Shaper (mode=0)
[17:27:15]        + frame rate: same as source (around 59.940 fps)
[17:27:15]      + Crop and Scale (width=708:height=362:crop-top=60:crop-bottom=58:crop-left=8:crop-right=4)
[17:27:15]        + source: 720 * 480, crop (60/58/8/4): 708 * 362, scale: 708 * 362
[17:27:15]    + Output geometry
[17:27:15]      + storage dimensions: 708 x 362
[17:27:15]      + pixel aspect ratio: 8 : 9
[17:27:15]      + display dimensions: 629 x 362
[17:27:15]    + encoder: H.264 (libx264)
[17:27:15]      + preset:  fast
[17:27:15]      + profile: auto
[17:27:15]      + level:   auto
[17:27:15]      + quality: 16.00 (RF)
[17:27:15]  * subtitle track 1, Closed Captions (track 0, id 0x0) Text [CC] -> Passthrough, Default
[17:27:15]  * audio track 1
[17:27:15]    + decoder: Unknown (AC3) (2.0 ch) (track 1, id 0x80bd)
[17:27:15]      + bitrate: 192 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[17:27:15]    + mixdown: Stereo
[17:27:15]    + encoder: AAC (libavcodec)
[17:27:15]      + bitrate: 64 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 5.0.1
libdvdnav: Unable to open device file D:\.
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00be0000. Regions: 1 7
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0000012c
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x00002614
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0000279b
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x00299c35
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x0029b649
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 3 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00be0000. Regions: 1 7
[17:27:16] sync: expecting 97142 video frames
[17:27:16] encx264: min-keyint: 60, keyint: 600
[17:27:16] encx264: encoding at constant RF 16.000000
[17:27:16] encx264: unparsed options: subme=6:weightp=1:ref=2:rc-lookahead=30
x264 [info]: using SAR=8/9
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX XOP FMA4 FMA3 LZCNT BMI1
x264 [info]: profile High, level 3.1
[17:27:16] sync: first pts video is 0
[17:27:16] sync: "Chapter 1" (1) at frame 1 time 0
[17:27:16] sync: first pts audio 0x80bd is 0
[17:27:17] sync: video time went backwards 33 ms, dropped 1 frames. PTS 39039
[17:27:17] sync: "Introduction" (2) at frame 27 time 78078
[17:27:21] sync: first pts subtitle 0x0 is 1327326
[17:28:29] sync: "The Warrior Pharaohs" (3) at frame 4044 time 12141129
[17:31:44] sync: "War and the Birth of an Empire" (4) at frame 16017 time 48096048
[17:38:15] sync: "Hatshepsut, Daughter of a God" (5) at frame 35608 time 106927821
[17:45:59] sync: "Tuthmosis III, the Conqueror of Megiddo" (6) at frame 64013 time 192228036
[17:55:07] reader: end of chapter 6 (media 6) reached at media chapter 7
[17:55:07] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[17:55:09] work: average encoding speed for job is 58.158131 fps
[17:55:09] comb detect: heavy 45727 | light 8810 | uncombed 42702 | total 97239
[17:55:09] vfr: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[17:55:09] vfr: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[17:55:09] ac3-decoder done: 101393 frames, 0 decoder errors
[17:55:09] mpeg2video-decoder done: 97240 frames, 0 decoder errors
[17:55:09] sync: got 97239 frames, 97142 expected
[17:55:09] sync: framerate min 29.970 fps, max 29.970 fps, avg 29.970 fps
x264 [info]: frame I:1653  Avg QP:16.16  size: 20294
x264 [info]: frame P:42019 Avg QP:18.36  size: 11381
x264 [info]: frame B:108103 Avg QP:20.84  size:  3563
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames:  2.7%  4.6%  6.9% 85.8%
x264 [info]: mb I  I16..4: 11.4% 78.2% 10.4%
x264 [info]: mb P  I16..4:  2.7% 13.4%  1.5%  P16..4: 35.7% 26.0% 13.5%  0.0%  0.0%    skip: 7.1%
x264 [info]: mb B  I16..4:  2.9%  6.4%  0.6%  B16..8: 24.7% 10.6%  0.8%  direct:26.0%  skip:28.0%  L0:45.5% L1:41.4% BI:13.2%
x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:70.3% inter:57.7%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 65.0% 75.5% 37.0% inter: 31.8% 37.3% 3.8%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 36% 24% 21% 19%
x264 [info]: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 19% 21% 27%  5%  5%  6%  6%  6%  6%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 24% 25% 11%  5%  8%  7%  9%  6%  6%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 57% 21% 18%  5%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:9.2% UV:4.5%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 59.0% 41.0%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 76.0% 24.0%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 93.2%  6.8%
x264 [info]: kb/s:2211.62
[17:55:18] mux: track 0, 151775 frames, 896922023 bytes, 2211.50 kbps, fifo 4096
[17:55:18] mux: track 1, 152090 frames, 26076667 bytes, 64.30 kbps, fifo 4096
[17:55:18] mux: track 2, 842 frames, 77550 bytes, 0.19 kbps, fifo 32
[17:55:18] libhb: work result = 0

# Encode Completed ...

[woodr2011]

Can you show us a screenshot of the filters tab? Sounds like it might be a Windows GUI bug somehow, same as source CFR should have selected 23.976 fps for you.

Hi Rodeo - I apologize for not replying sooner. The site won't allow me to attach a screenshot.

[Deleted User 11865]

You could use a site like imgur and post the link

[Deleted User 11865]

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[17:27:15]    + filters
[17:27:15]      + Comb Detect (mode=0:spatial-metric=2:motion-thresh=2:spatial-thresh=3:filter-mode=1:block-thresh=80:block-width=16:block-height=16)
[17:27:15]      + avfilter (yadif='mode=1:auto=1')
[17:27:15]        + yadif: mode=1, auto=1
[…]
[17:55:09] comb detect: heavy 45727 | light 8810 | uncombed 42702 | total 97239

That could be the cause of the jerkiness. It looks like you used Deinterlace Bob, which would be a touch faster than Decomb Bob (because the former uses some assembly optimizations not available in the latter), but I've occasionally encountered issues with avfilter's yadif, so maybe trying the same encode with Decomb Bob would yield smoother results.

[woodr2011]

Hi Rodeo - I actually had the same jerkiness when trying the encode with Decomb/Bob as well, I'm sorry to say. What are your thoughts on the frame rate issue? I have heard advocates in favor of constant and those in favor of variable.

Here is the imgur link to the screen shot of my filters tab: http://imgur.com/a/aNusV

[Deleted User 11865]

Oh I guess I should have asked for picture, not filters. And for the source corresponding to your first log please (E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2).

[woodr2011]

Oh I guess I should have asked for picture, not filters. And for the source corresponding to your first log please (E:\Users\Ryan\Downloads\BLAIR_WITCH_2).

The settings I used for that encode should be visible in the log text (above).

[Deleted User 11865]

Yes, they should -- but I suspect a bug somewhere that won't be evident in the log.

[woodr2011]

So if I'm understanding correctly, you are asking for a screenshot of the filter tab for the Blair Witch 2 encode? I'm just a bit confused by the statement, "pictures, not filters."

[Deleted User 11865]

Nah, there's a picture tab next to the filters tab. But I'm seemingly really unfamiliar with the Windows GUI, since the information I'm looking for is actually found on the video tab