Foreign Language Subs and Native English Subs

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wunderlong88
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Foreign Language Subs and Native English Subs

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I am trying to understand how to use the subtitle options in Handbrake. Everything I've read (including the HB subtitle guide) has only confused me more...lol. I am encoding Battle of Britain. I have added 2 subtitle tracks.
4 Englsih (VobSub) and selected "Burn in"
1 English (VobSub) and selected "Default" (I also tried selecting nothing here)

This almost gives me what I want. It causes the German dialogue to appear in English on the screen whether I have subs turned on or off on my player. If I turn the subs on, on my player, I get double German dialogue English subs (one just above the other, unreadable because of overlap) and I get English subs for all of the English dialogue.

I realize when I turn on the subs on my player it is giving me the foreign lang. subs a second time. Can this be prevented? In otherwords, I would like the foreign lang. subs to be burned in and always appear but then have the option to toggle on/off the native language subs.


handbrake 10.5, Windows 10

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 HandBrake 0.10.5.0 - 64bit Version
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0 - 64bit
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8300  @ 2.50GHz
Ram: 8191 MB, 
GPU Information:
  Glance Speed Boost - 2.0.110.0
  NVIDIA GeForce G210 - 9.18.13.4192
Screen: 1920x1200
Temp Dir: C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\Handbrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake Team\HandBrake\0.10.5.0

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[12:52:12] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8300  @ 2.50GHz
[12:52:12]  - logical processor count: 4
[12:52:12] OpenCL: library not available
[12:52:12] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[12:52:12] hb_scan: path=L:\Test 2\Battle_of_Britain_(1969)_t00.mkv, title_index=0
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:162: indx_parse(): error opening L:\Test 2\Battle_of_Britain_(1969)_t00.mkv/BDMV/index.bdmv
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:162: indx_parse(): error opening L:\Test 2\Battle_of_Britain_(1969)_t00.mkv/BDMV/BACKUP/index.bdmv
libbluray/bluray.c:2182: nav_get_title_list(L:\Test 2\Battle_of_Britain_(1969)_t00.mkv) failed
[12:52:12] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 5.0.1
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdread:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[12:52:12] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'L:\Test 2\Battle_of_Britain_(1969)_t00.mkv':
  Metadata:
    title           : Battle of Britain (1969)
  Duration: 02:11:54.17, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A
    Chapter #0.0: start 0.000000, end 526.158967
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 01
    Chapter #0.1: start 526.158967, end 774.440333
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 02
    Chapter #0.2: start 774.440333, end 1238.370467
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 03
    Chapter #0.3: start 1238.370467, end 1870.969100
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 04
    Chapter #0.4: start 1870.969100, end 2208.039167
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 05
    Chapter #0.5: start 2208.039167, end 2536.634100
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 06
    Chapter #0.6: start 2536.634100, end 3030.427400
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 07
    Chapter #0.7: start 3030.427400, end 3288.318367
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 08
    Chapter #0.8: start 3288.318367, end 3604.167233
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 09
    Chapter #0.9: start 3604.167233, end 4062.024633
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 10
    Chapter #0.10: start 4062.024633, end 4433.595833
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 11
    Chapter #0.11: start 4433.595833, end 4797.125667
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 12
    Chapter #0.12: start 4797.125667, end 5220.381833
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 13
    Chapter #0.13: start 5220.381833, end 5828.856367
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 14
    Chapter #0.14: start 5828.856367, end 6002.229567
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 15
    Chapter #0.15: start 6002.229567, end 6405.132067
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 16
    Chapter #0.16: start 6405.132067, end 6879.172300
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 17
    Chapter #0.17: start 6879.172300, end 7408.434367
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 18
    Chapter #0.18: start 7408.434367, end 7747.206133
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 19
    Chapter #0.19: start 7747.206133, end 7914.172933
    Metadata:
      title           : Chapter 20
    Stream #0.0(eng): Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p, 720x480 [PAR 32:27 DAR 16:9], 9801 kb/s, PAR 186:157 DAR 279:157, 29.97 fps, 1k tbn, 59.94 tbc
    Metadata:
      BPS-eng         : 5945790
      DURATION-eng    : 02:11:54.172933333
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 189784
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 5882001244
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 0100E0
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.10.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2016-08-20 18:31:19
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 192 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
      title           : Stereo
      BPS-eng         : 192000
      DURATION-eng    : 02:11:54.080000000
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 247315
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 189937920
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 0180BD
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.10.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2016-08-20 18:31:19
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0.2(eng): Subtitle: dvdsub (default)
    Metadata:
      BPS-eng         : 3603
      DURATION-eng    : 02:09:05.194133333
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 1246
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 3489184
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 0120BD
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.10.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2016-08-20 18:31:19
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0.3(fre): Subtitle: dvdsub
    Metadata:
      BPS-eng         : 3657
      DURATION-eng    : 02:10:16.672955555
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 1260
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 3573320
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 0121BD
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.10.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2016-08-20 18:31:19
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0.4(spa): Subtitle: dvdsub
    Metadata:
      BPS-eng         : 3601
      DURATION-eng    : 02:10:10.725066666
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 1257
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 3516148
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 0122BD
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.10.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2016-08-20 18:31:19
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
    Stream #0.5(eng): Subtitle: dvdsub
    Metadata:
      BPS-eng         : 773
      DURATION-eng    : 02:08:33.896200000
      NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 264
      NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 746280
      SOURCE_ID-eng   : 0123BD
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_APP-eng: MakeMKV v1.10.0 win(x64-release)
      _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2016-08-20 18:31:19
      _STATISTICS_TAGS-eng: BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID
[12:52:13] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[12:52:13] scan: audio 0x1: ac3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (2.0 ch)
[12:52:13] 719.384949s: Video -> Film
[12:52:13] scan: 10 previews, 720x480, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 56/60/8/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 32:27
[12:52:13] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
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Re: Foreign Language Subs and Native English Subs

Post by Deleted User 11865 »

Burned-in subtitles are part of the video… thew only way to turn them off is to turn off the video. You cannot burn them in if you want to be able to turn them off.
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wunderlong88
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Re: Foreign Language Subs and Native English Subs

Post by wunderlong88 »

I'm not sure I explained myself well. I find 2 english VOB tracks. One of them is the foreign language subtitles that I want on all the time. So I selected burn in.
The other track is the english subtitles and apparently the foreign language ones too. I would like to be able to toggle on/off the english ones but when I toggle them on it causes TWO sets of foreign language subtitles (this set and the set mentioned above) to be on the screen at the same time, overlapping each other in a way that is unreadable.
I would like the foreign ones on all the time (burned in) and the english ones to toggle/on off but apparently the way this dvd is authored makes that difficult or impossible...not sure which. LOL
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Deleted User 11865

Re: Foreign Language Subs and Native English Subs

Post by Deleted User 11865 »

There is no indication in the second subtitle track [1 English (VobSub)] of which subtitle packets correspond to packets present in the first track [4 English (VobSub)], and thus no way to filter packets that are present in both tracks from the second track.
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