BD encode seems washed out?

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DigitalFool
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Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 3:37 am

BD encode seems washed out?

Post by DigitalFool »

I don't normally scrutinize quality too much, but I noticed with my World War Z, it seems that the colors are washed out a bit. I loaded the BD in my CPU and played it next to the MKV, and I see a noticeable difference. I use a CQ of 20, do I need to increase the quality? Is there another setting that needs tweaking?

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HandBrake 0.9.9.5530 - 64bit Version
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor
Ram: 8191 MB, Screen: 1920x1080
Temp Dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\Handbrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake\HandBrake\0.9.9.5530

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CLI Query:  -i "D:\\" -t 14 --angle 1 -c 1-18 -o "M:\Movies\World War Z.mkv"  -f mkv  --detelecine --decomb --strict-anamorphic  --modulus 16 -e x264 -q 20 --vfr -a 1,1 -E ffac3,copy:dts -6 auto,auto -R Auto,Auto -B 160,0 -D 0,0 --gain 0,0 --audio-fallback ffac3 --subtitle 1 --subtitle-forced=1 --subtitle-burned=1 --markers="C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\World War Z-chapters.csv" -x ref=2:bframes=2:me=umh:subme=6:8x8dct=0:trellis=0 --verbose=1
User Query: False

[14:39:40] hb_init: starting libhb thread
HandBrake 0.9.9 (2013052900) - MinGW x86_64 - http://handbrake.fr
6 CPUs detected
Opening D:\...
[14:39:40] hb_scan: path=D:\, title_index=14
[14:39:40] scan: BD has 16 title(s)
[14:39:40] bd: scanning title 14
[14:39:40] bd: playlist 00800.MPLS
[14:39:40] bd: duration is 02:03:03 (7383667 ms)
[14:39:40] bd: video id=0x1011, stream type=H.264, format 1080p
[14:39:40] bd: aspect = 1.77778
[14:39:40] bd: audio id=0x711100, lang=English (DTS), 3cc=eng
[14:39:40] bd: audio id=0x1100, lang=English (DTS-HD MA), 3cc=eng
[14:39:40] bd: audio id=0x1101, lang=Francais (AC3), 3cc=fra
[14:39:40] bd: audio id=0x1102, lang=Espanol (AC3), 3cc=spa
[14:39:40] bd: audio id=0x1103, lang=Portugues (AC3), 3cc=por
[14:39:40] bd: audio id=0x1104, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng
[14:39:40] bd: subtitle id=0x1200, lang=English, 3cc=eng
[14:39:40] bd: subtitle id=0x1201, lang=English, 3cc=eng
[14:39:40] bd: subtitle id=0x1202, lang=Francais, 3cc=fra
[14:39:40] bd: subtitle id=0x1203, lang=Espanol, 3cc=spa
[14:39:40] bd: subtitle id=0x1204, lang=Portugues, 3cc=por
[14:39:40] bd: chap 1 packet=768, 305179 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 2 packet=1537864704, 528819 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 3 packet=4309846080, 529195 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 4 packet=6985219392, 422839 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 5 packet=9161168640, 335460 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 6 packet=10868375808, 421963 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 7 packet=12969939648, 614488 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 8 packet=16063910208, 375875 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 9 packet=17949845568, 505046 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 10 packet=20611050048, 472889 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 11 packet=22987929408, 530279 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 12 packet=25670952960, 306764 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 13 packet=27234459456, 341716 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 14 packet=28876257408, 534951 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 15 packet=31551441408, 512512 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 16 packet=34159222464, 213671 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 17 packet=35203362048, 431764 ms
[14:39:40] bd: chap 18 packet=36525365760, 250 ms
[14:39:40] bd: title 14 has 18 chapters
[14:39:40] scan: decoding previews for title 14
[14:39:40] scan: title angle(s) 1
[14:39:40] scan: audio 0x1101: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=640000 Francais (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[14:39:40] scan: audio 0x1102: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=640000 Espanol (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[14:39:40] scan: audio 0x1103: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=640000 Portugues (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[14:39:40] scan: audio 0x1104: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=640000 English (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[14:39:40] scan: audio 0x711100: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS) (5.1 ch)
[14:39:40] scan: audio 0x1100: dca, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=1536000 English (DTS-HD MA) (5.1 ch)
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 2, 20.00 %
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 3, 30.00 %
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 4, 40.00 %
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 4, 40.00 %
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 5, 50.00 %
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 6, 60.00 %
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 7, 70.00 %
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 8, 80.00 %
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 9, 90.00 %
Scanning title 1 of 1, preview 10, 100.00 %[14:39:42] scan: 10 previews, 1920x1080, 23.976 fps, autocrop = 140/140/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[14:39:42] stream: 31 good frames, 0 errors (0%)
[14:39:42] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
+ title 14:
  + playlist: 00800.MPLS
  + duration: 02:03:03
  + size: 1920x1080, pixel aspect: 1/1, display aspect: 1.78, 23.976 fps
  + autocrop: 140/140/0/0
  + chapters:
    + 1: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:05:05
    + 2: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:08:49
    + 3: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:08:49
    + 4: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:07:03
    + 5: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:05:35
    + 6: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:07:02
    + 7: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:10:14
    + 8: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:06:16
    + 9: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:08:25
    + 10: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:07:53
    + 11: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:08:50
    + 12: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:05:07
    + 13: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:05:42
    + 14: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:08:55
    + 15: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:08:33
    + 16: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:03:34
    + 17: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:07:12
    + 18: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:00:00
  + audio tracks:
    + 1, English (DTS) (5.1 ch) (iso639-2: eng), 48000Hz, 1536000bps
    + 2, English (DTS-HD MA) (5.1 ch) (iso639-2: eng)
    + 3, Francais (AC3) (5.1 ch) (iso639-2: fra), 48000Hz, 640000bps
    + 4, Espanol (AC3) (5.1 ch) (iso639-2: spa), 48000Hz, 640000bps
    + 5, Portugues (AC3) (5.1 ch) (iso639-2: por), 48000Hz, 640000bps
    + 6, English (AC3) (5.1 ch) (iso639-2: eng), 48000Hz, 640000bps
  + subtitle tracks:
    + 1, English (iso639-2: eng) (Bitmap)(PGS)
    + 2, English (iso639-2: eng) (Bitmap)(PGS)
    + 3, Francais (iso639-2: fra) (Bitmap)(PGS)
    + 4, Espanol (iso639-2: spa) (Bitmap)(PGS)
    + 5, Portugues (iso639-2: por) (Bitmap)(PGS)
Reading chapter markers from file C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\World War Z-chapters.csv
[14:39:42] 1 job(s) to process
[14:39:42] starting job
[14:39:42] yadif thread started for segment 0
[14:39:42] yadif thread started for segment 1
[14:39:42] yadif thread started for segment 2
[14:39:42] yadif thread started for segment 3
[14:39:42] yadif thread started for segment 4
[14:39:42] yadif thread started for segment 5
[14:39:42] decomb filter thread started for segment 0
[14:39:42] decomb filter thread started for segment 1
[14:39:42] decomb filter thread started for segment 2
[14:39:42] decomb filter thread started for segment 3
[14:39:42] decomb filter thread started for segment 4
[14:39:42] decomb filter thread started for segment 5
[14:39:42] decomb check thread started for segment 0
[14:39:42] decomb check thread started for segment 1
[14:39:42] decomb check thread started for segment 2
[14:39:42] decomb check thread started for segment 3
[14:39:42] decomb check thread started for segment 4
[14:39:42] decomb check thread started for segment 5
[14:39:42] mask filter thread started for segment 0
[14:39:42] mask filter thread started for segment 1
[14:39:42] mask filter thread started for segment 2
[14:39:42] mask filter thread started for segment 3
[14:39:42] mask filter thread started for segment 4
[14:39:42] mask filter thread started for segment 5
[14:39:42] mask erode thread started for segment 0
[14:39:42] mask erode thread started for segment 1
[14:39:42] mask erode thread started for segment 2
[14:39:42] mask erode thread started for segment 3
[14:39:42] mask erode thread started for segment 4
[14:39:42] mask erode thread started for segment 5
[14:39:42] mask dilate thread started for segment 0
[14:39:42] mask dilate thread started for segment 1
[14:39:42] mask dilate thread started for segment 2
[14:39:42] mask dilate thread started for segment 3
[14:39:42] mask dilate thread started for segment 4
[14:39:42] mask dilate thread started for segment 5
[14:39:42] work: mixdown not specified, track 1 setting mixdown 5.1 Channels
[14:39:42] work: sanitizing track 1 bitrate 160 to 224 Kbps
[14:39:42] sync: expecting 177030 video frames
[14:39:42] job configuration:
[14:39:42]  * source
[14:39:42]    + D:\
[14:39:42]    + title 14, chapter(s) 1 to 18
[14:39:42]  * destination
[14:39:42]    + M:\Movies\World War Z.mkv
[14:39:42]    + container: Matroska (.mkv)
[14:39:42]      + chapter markers
[14:39:42]  * video track
[14:39:42]    + decoder: h264
[14:39:42]      + bitrate 200 kbps
[14:39:42]    + frame rate: same as source (around 23.976 fps)
[14:39:42]    + filters
[14:39:42]      + Detelecine (pullup) (default settings)
[14:39:42]      + Decomb (default settings)
[14:39:42]      + Framerate Shaper (0:27000000:1126125)
[14:39:42]        + frame rate: same as source (around 23.976 fps)
[14:39:42]      + Subtitle renderer (140:140:0:0)
[14:39:42]      + Crop and Scale (1920:800:140:140:0:0)
[14:39:42]        + source: 1920 * 1080, crop (140/140/0/0): 1920 * 800, scale: 1920 * 800
[14:39:42]    + strict anamorphic
[14:39:42]      + storage dimensions: 1920 * 800, mod 0
[14:39:42]      + pixel aspect ratio: 1 / 1
[14:39:42]      + display dimensions: 1920 * 800
[14:39:42]    + encoder: H.264 (x264)
[14:39:42]      + options: ref=2:bframes=2:me=umh:subme=6:8x8dct=0:trellis=0
[14:39:42]      + quality: 20.00 (RF)
[14:39:42]  * subtitle track 1, English (track 0, id 0x1200) Picture [PGS] -> Render/Burn-in, Forced Only
[14:39:42]  * audio track 1
[14:39:42]    + decoder: English (DTS) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 0x711100)
[14:39:42]      + bitrate: 1536 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[14:39:42]    + mixdown: 5.1 Channels
[14:39:42]    + encoder: AC3 (ffmpeg)
[14:39:42]      + bitrate: 224 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[14:39:42]  * audio track 2
[14:39:42]    + decoder: English (DTS) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 0x711100)
[14:39:42]      + bitrate: 1536 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[14:39:42]    + DTS Passthru
[14:39:43] encx264: min-keyint: 24, keyint: 240
[14:39:43] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 1/1
[14:39:43] encx264: Encoding at constant RF 20.000000
x264 [warning]: --psnr used with psy on: results will be invalid!
x264 [warning]: --tune psnr should be used if attempting to benchmark psnr!
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 4.0
[14:39:43] reader: first SCR 1044806 id 0x1011 DTS 1044806
[14:39:43] h264: "Chapter 1" (1) at frame 0 time 3754
[14:39:43] sync: first pts is 3754
[14:46:27] h264: "Chapter 2" (2) at frame 7317 time 27471523
[15:01:19] h264: "Chapter 3" (3) at frame 19996 time 75065320
[15:14:09] h264: "Chapter 4" (4) at frame 32684 time 122692900
[15:24:19] h264: "Chapter 5" (5) at frame 42822 time 160748417
[15:32:12] h264: "Chapter 6" (6) at frame 50865 time 190939828
[15:41:30] h264: "Chapter 7" (7) at frame 60982 time 228916517
[15:55:01] h264: "Chapter 8" (8) at frame 75715 time 284220516
[16:03:51] h264: "Chapter 9" (9) at frame 84727 time 318049311
[16:18:56] h264: "Chapter 10" (10) at frame 96836 time 363503470
[16:30:42] h264: "Chapter 11" (11) at frame 108174 time 406063487
[16:44:20] h264: "Chapter 12" (12) at frame 120888 time 453788665
[16:51:29] h264: "Chapter 13" (13) at frame 128243 time 481397496
[16:58:20] h264: "Chapter 14" (14) at frame 136436 time 512151970
[17:10:17] h264: "Chapter 15" (15) at frame 149262 time 560297567
[17:22:24] h264: "Chapter 16" (16) at frame 161550 time 606423647
[17:27:55] h264: "Chapter 17" (17) at frame 166673 time 625654108
[17:33:04] reader: done. 2 scr changes
[17:33:04] h264: "Chapter 18" (18) at frame 177017 time 664482898
[17:33:07] work: average encoding speed for job is 17.015570 fps
[17:33:07] sync: got 177030 frames, 177030 expected
[17:33:07] decomb: deinterlaced 0 | blended 206 | unfiltered 176821 | total 177027
[17:33:07] render: lost time: 7507 (0 frames)
[17:33:07] render: gained time: 7507 (8 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[17:33:08] h264-decoder done: 177030 frames, 0 decoder errors, 0 drops
x264 [info]: frame I:3749  Avg QP:17.06  size: 83886  PSNR Mean Y:48.93 U:51.58 V:51.20 Avg:49.46 Global:48.94
x264 [info]: frame P:132606 Avg QP:20.14  size: 19480  PSNR Mean Y:47.16 U:53.58 V:53.03 Avg:47.89 Global:47.26
x264 [info]: frame B:40672 Avg QP:21.02  size:  8013  PSNR Mean Y:46.33 U:50.21 V:49.64 Avg:47.07 Global:46.00
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 59.4% 24.5% 16.1%
x264 [info]: mb I  I16..4: 39.0%  0.0% 61.0%
x264 [info]: mb P  I16..4:  7.1%  0.0%  3.7%  P16..4: 40.9% 11.5%  8.1%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:28.7%
x264 [info]: mb B  I16..4:  7.3%  0.0%  0.4%  B16..8: 24.8%  5.1%  0.3%  direct: 8.9%  skip:53.2%  L0:37.7% L1:54.4% BI: 7.9%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 34.4% 57.7% 26.7% inter: 8.9% 19.3% 0.9%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 39% 22% 13% 26%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 22% 20% 25%  5%  7%  6%  6%  5%  4%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 56% 19% 18%  7%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:2.2% UV:1.4%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 70.1% 10.3% 19.3%  0.3%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 72.7% 27.3%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 95.9%  4.1%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9854114 (18.360db)
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:47.004 U:52.765 V:52.213 Avg:47.732 Global:46.967 kb/s:3492.71
[17:33:08] dca-decoder done: 0 frames, 0 decoder errors, 0 drops
[17:33:08] dca-decoder done: 0 frames, 0 decoder errors, 0 drops
[17:33:08] mux: track 0, 177027 frames, 3223491836 bytes, 3492.56 kbps, fifo 1024
[17:33:08] mux: track 1, 230739 frames, 206742144 bytes, 224.00 kbps, fifo 2048
[17:33:08] mux: track 2, 692218 frames, 1392742616 bytes, 1509.00 kbps, fifo 4096
[17:33:08] stream: 177031 good frames, 0 errors (0%)
[17:33:08] libhb: work result = 0
Encode done!
HandBrake has exited.
Smithcraft
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Re: BD encode seems washed out?

Post by Smithcraft »

It might be the software that is playing the BD is different from the one playing your files. So it might be using a different color profile.

A better way to test would be to rip with MakeMKV and play that file in the same application that you are playing your files in, and then see if it still looks washed out.

If so, then let us know. If the MakeMKV file and the Handbrake file appear the same, then it's the BD software that is doing something odd, and not Handbrake.

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DigitalFool
Posts: 19
Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 3:37 am

Re: BD encode seems washed out?

Post by DigitalFool »

Good call - I will give that a try and report back. I was assuming it probably wasn't HB, but had to make sure CQ wouldn't cause any washed out content. I was too focused on making sure that I was using the same display, didn't think about the player.
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Rodeo
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Re: BD encode seems washed out?

Post by Rodeo »

Nope, constant quality will not affect color directly in that way, so it can't be the cause of what you're describing.
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