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wunderlong88
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General Subtitle Help

Post by wunderlong88 » Sat May 03, 2014 9:43 pm

Last year I used Handbrake to convert several ripped dvds to mkv to use on Plex. At that time I had success doing this so that I could turn subtitles on or off when they were available on a particular title.

Forgive me as I know this information must be commonly available but I can't seem to remember or figure out how to do that again. I keep finding information on hard/soft subtitles and Handbrake but I didn't have to use other software when I did this before.

When I go to the subtitles tab and I see English (VOBSub) listed as a source, I see Forced Only, Burn In, Default as options. How do I set these to have subtitles available to turn on or off as needed?

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by Smithcraft » Sat May 03, 2014 9:52 pm

Just select the stream you want, and don't select Forced, Burn in, or Default.

If you continue to have problems, please post an encode log.

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by wunderlong88 » Sat May 03, 2014 10:28 pm

Ok...I tried that and they are burned in and I cannot turn them off.

Here is the log:

HandBrake svn5965 (Nightly Build) - 64bit Version
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz
Ram: 8191 MB,
GPU Information:
NVIDIA GeForce G210 - 9.18.13.2049
Screen: 1920x1200
Temp Dir: C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\Handbrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake\HandBrake\0.0.0.5965

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CLI Query: -i "F:\Test 2\The Paradise\The Paradise s02e01.mkv" -t 1 --angle 1 -c 2-3 -o "F:\Conversions\The Paradise S02e01.m4v" -f mp4 --decomb -w 720 --crop 0:0:0:0 --loose-anamorphic --modulus 2 -e x264 -q 20 --vfr -a 1,1 -E av_aac,copy:ac3 -6 dpl2,auto -R Auto,Auto -B 160,0 -D 0,0 --gain 0,0 --audio-fallback ac3 --subtitle 1 --markers="C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Local\Temp\The Paradise S02e01-1-chapters.csv" --h264-level="4.1" --h264-profile=high --verbose=1

[16:58:51] hb_init: starting libhb thread
HandBrake svn5965 (2014011301) - MinGW x86_64 - http://handbrake.fr
4 CPUs detected
Opening F:\Test 2\The Paradise\The Paradise s02e01.mkv...
[16:58:51] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz
[16:58:51] - logical processor count: 4
[16:58:51] OpenCL device #1: NVIDIA Corporation GeForce G210
[16:58:51] - OpenCL version: 1.0 CUDA
[16:58:51] - driver version: 320.49
[16:58:51] - device type: GPU
[16:58:51] - supported: no
[16:58:51] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[16:58:51] hb_scan: path=F:\Test 2\The Paradise\The Paradise s02e01.mkv, title_index=1
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:162: indx_parse(): error opening F:\Test 2\The Paradise\The Paradise s02e01.mkv/BDMV/index.bdmv
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:162: indx_parse(): error opening F:\Test 2\The Paradise\The Paradise s02e01.mkv/BDMV/BACKUP/index.bdmv
libbluray/bluray.c:1725: nav_get_title_list(F:\Test 2\The Paradise\The Paradise s02e01.mkv) failed (0000000001fa9fd0)
[16:58:51] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[16:58:51] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'F:\Test 2\The Paradise\The Paradise s02e01.mkv':
Duration: 00:58:49.00, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A
Chapter #0.0: start 0.000000, end 724.400000
Metadata:
title : Chapter 01
Chapter #0.1: start 724.400000, end 1346.360000
Metadata:
title : Chapter 02
Chapter #0.2: start 1346.360000, end 2129.680000
Metadata:
title : Chapter 03
Chapter #0.3: start 2129.680000, end 2800.880000
Metadata:
title : Chapter 04
Chapter #0.4: start 2800.880000, end 3529.000000
Metadata:
title : Chapter 05
Stream #0.0(eng): Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p, 720x576 [PAR 64:45 DAR 16:9], 9800 kb/s, 25 fps, 1k tbn, 50 tbc
Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 192 kb/s (default)
Metadata:
title : 2/0
Stream #0.2(eng): Subtitle: dvdsub (default)
[16:58:52] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[16:58:52] scan: audio 0x1: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=192000 English (AC3) (2.0 ch)
[16:58:52] scan: 10 previews, 720x576, 25.000 fps, autocrop = 0/0/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 64:45
[16:58:52] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
+ title 1:
+ stream: F:\Test 2\The Paradise\The Paradise s02e01.mkv
+ duration: 00:58:49
+ size: 720x576, pixel aspect: 64/45, display aspect: 1.78, 25.000 fps
+ autocrop: 0/0/0/0
+ support opencl: no
+ support hwd: yes
+ chapters:
+ 1: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:12:04
+ 2: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:10:22
+ 3: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:13:03
+ 4: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:11:11
+ 5: cells 0->0, 0 blocks, duration 00:12:08
+ audio tracks:
+ 1, English (AC3) (2.0 ch) (iso639-2: eng), 48000Hz, 192000bps
+ subtitle tracks:
+ 1, English (iso639-2: eng) (Bitmap)(VOBSUB)
Reading chapter markers from file C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Local\Temp\The Paradise S02e01-1-chapters.csv
[16:58:52] 1 job(s) to process
[16:58:52] starting job
[16:58:52] do_job: QSV: possible CopyFrame bug, using encode-only path
[16:58:52] yadif thread started for segment 0
[16:58:52] yadif thread started for segment 1
[16:58:52] yadif thread started for segment 2
[16:58:52] yadif thread started for segment 3
[16:58:52] decomb filter thread started for segment 0
[16:58:52] decomb filter thread started for segment 1
[16:58:52] decomb filter thread started for segment 2
[16:58:52] decomb filter thread started for segment 3
[16:58:52] decomb check thread started for segment 0
[16:58:52] decomb check thread started for segment 1
[16:58:52] decomb check thread started for segment 2
[16:58:52] decomb check thread started for segment 3
[16:58:52] mask filter thread started for segment 0
[16:58:52] mask filter thread started for segment 1
[16:58:52] mask filter thread started for segment 2
[16:58:52] mask filter thread started for segment 3
[16:58:52] mask erode thread started for segment 0
[16:58:52] mask erode thread started for segment 1
[16:58:52] mask erode thread started for segment 2
[16:58:52] mask erode thread started for segment 3
[16:58:52] mask dilate thread started for segment 0
[16:58:52] mask dilate thread started for segment 1
[16:58:52] mask dilate thread started for segment 2
[16:58:52] mask dilate thread started for segment 3
[16:58:52] work: sanitizing track 1 mixdown Dolby Pro Logic II to Stereo
[16:58:52] sync: expecting 35132 video frames
[16:58:52] job configuration:
[16:58:52] * source
[16:58:52] + F:\Test 2\The Paradise\The Paradise s02e01.mkv
[16:58:52] + title 1, chapter(s) 2 to 3
[16:58:52] + container: matroska,webm
[16:58:52] * destination
[16:58:52] + F:\Conversions\The Paradise S02e01.m4v
[16:58:52] + container: MPEG-4 (avformat)
[16:58:52] + chapter markers
[16:58:52] * video track
[16:58:52] + decoder: mpeg2video
[16:58:52] + bitrate 9800 kbps
[16:58:52] + filters
[16:58:52] + Decomb (default settings)
[16:58:52] + Framerate Shaper (0:27000000:1080000)
[16:58:52] + frame rate: same as source (around 25.000 fps)
[16:58:52] + Subtitle renderer (0:0:0:0)
[16:58:52] + Crop and Scale (720:576:0:0:0:0)
[16:58:52] + source: 720 * 576, crop (0/0/0/0): 720 * 576, scale: 720 * 576
[16:58:52] + loose anamorphic
[16:58:52] + storage dimensions: 720 * 576, mod 2
[16:58:52] + pixel aspect ratio: 64 / 45
[16:58:52] + display dimensions: 1024 * 576
[16:58:52] + encoder: H.264 (x264)
[16:58:52] + h264 profile: high
[16:58:52] + h264 level: 4.1
[16:58:52] + quality: 20.00 (RF)
[16:58:52] * subtitle track 1, English (track 2, id 0x2) Picture [VOBSUB] -> Render/Burn-in
[16:58:52] * audio track 1
[16:58:52] + decoder: English (AC3) (2.0 ch) (track 1, id 0x1)
[16:58:52] + bitrate: 192 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:58:52] + mixdown: Stereo
[16:58:52] + encoder: AAC (avcodec)
[16:58:52] + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:58:52] * audio track 2
[16:58:52] + decoder: English (AC3) (2.0 ch) (track 1, id 0x1)
[16:58:52] + bitrate: 192 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[16:58:52] + AC3 Passthru
[16:58:52] encx264: encoding at constant RF 20.000000
[16:58:52] encx264: unparsed options: level=4.1:vbv-bufsize=78125:vbv-maxrate=62500
x264 [info]: using SAR=64/45
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.1 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.1
[16:58:52] reader: first SCR 65196000 id 0x0 DTS 65196000
[17:04:12] mpeg2video: "Chapter 3" (3) at frame 15557 time 55976400
[17:10:56] reader: end of chapter 3 (media 3) reached at media chapter 4
[17:10:56] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[17:10:58] work: average encoding speed for job is 48.468628 fps
[17:10:58] sync: got 35131 frames, 35132 expected
[17:10:58] decomb: deinterlaced 0 | blended 0 | unfiltered 35130 | total 35130
[17:10:58] render: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[17:10:58] render: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
[17:10:58] mpeg2video-decoder done: 35131 frames, 0 decoder errors, 0 drops
x264 [info]: frame I:285 Avg QP:16.29 size: 43755
x264 [info]: frame P:13289 Avg QP:19.49 size: 7796
x264 [info]: frame B:21556 Avg QP:22.01 size: 1893
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 8.9% 23.6% 12.2% 55.2%
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 10.3% 72.2% 17.5%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 0.6% 2.5% 0.5% P16..4: 46.2% 17.1% 12.3% 0.0% 0.0% skip:20.8%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.0% 0.1% 0.0% B16..8: 42.5% 2.4% 0.4% direct: 1.3% skip:53.2% L0:41.9% L1:53.3% BI: 4.8%
x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:70.8% inter:84.5%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 72.3% 80.7% 50.1% inter: 15.7% 24.5% 1.3%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 55% 9% 9% 27%
x264 [info]: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 31% 10% 19% 5% 6% 9% 5% 9% 5%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 39% 11% 12% 5% 7% 9% 5% 7% 4%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 47% 14% 31% 8%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.6% UV:0.3%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 59.4% 11.3% 20.7% 8.6% 0.1%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 84.1% 13.8% 2.1%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 94.4% 5.6%
x264 [info]: kb/s:893.17
[17:10:58] mux: track 0, 35130 frames, 156871646 bytes, 893.04 kbps, fifo 4096
[17:10:58] mux: track 1, 65871 frames, 28137970 bytes, 160.18 kbps, fifo 8192
[17:10:58] mux: track 2, 43915 frames, 33726720 bytes, 192.00 kbps, fifo 4096
[17:10:58] libhb: work result = 0
Encode done!
HandBrake has exited.

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by vid.user » Sun May 04, 2014 3:36 am

Your original question specified going to 'mkv', your encode log shows otherwise. If you want your subtitles to be selectable then output to mkv.

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by wunderlong88 » Sun May 04, 2014 12:14 pm

Sorry, I meant m4v. I typed mkv by accident.

So, how do I get subtitles with m4v? I have them where I can toggle them on/off on some of my past titles that I encoded.

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by s55 » Sun May 04, 2014 12:55 pm

[16:58:52] * subtitle track 1, English (track 2, id 0x2) Picture [VOBSUB] -> Render/Burn-in
MP4 doesn't technically support VobSub tracks. It's an unofficial extension/bodge that a few players support.
HandBrakes new MP4 muxer doesn't support this extension yet. We've submitted patches upstream to libav but these haven't hit in a release yet.


So for now, we only support The MP4 spec, which means no selectable VobSub Tracks. Burn in only.

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by wunderlong88 » Sun May 04, 2014 1:02 pm

So, what do I select so that they don't burn in? So far everything I've tried makes them burn in.

Also, I know I have some other titles that I made this work for. Is it a difference in the way the dvd is encoded?

This is all way over my head! Thank you for your help!

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by s55 » Sun May 04, 2014 1:09 pm

There is nothing you can do. Only MKV file output will allow you to achieve what you what.

This is a change that was made to HandBrake. What you want is no longer supported. The functionality will hopefully return at a later date, but there is no ETA for this.

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by wunderlong88 » Sun May 04, 2014 1:12 pm

Ok...I understand except that I don't know what to check to get it to not have subtitles at all?
Since I can't have them where I can turn them on/off I want them off always but I keep getting them burned in.

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by s55 » Sun May 04, 2014 1:13 pm

Just remove the track completely from the subtitle tab. If the list is empty, it won't add any subtitles.

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Re: General Subtitle Help

Post by wunderlong88 » Sun May 04, 2014 1:30 pm

Ok...I don't know why I didn't notice I could do that! Thank you!

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